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AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 12:48:29 PM

It favors the rich because they have more time to do it...LOL...ridiculous.

But then again, the liberals in our country look at Europe as "such a great model" for our country to follow so it will not surprise me if we do not see a movement like this here soon!
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:53:06 PM

"The problem is schools have shifted the focus from educating to test taking."

That's a false generalization.
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cymk
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:35:13 PM

>>>Well, it -is- France that considering this.<<<

True.

>>>Actually, NCLB has its good points, like the standard against which all school children in the United States must be measured. Because of NCLB, states were forced to address issues like racial, economic, and special needs disparities in performance that would have gone ignored.<<<

Yes, the idea of NCLB does have merits, the execution of it is poor and fails miserably. Most of my family are educators, so I know the impact of NCLB too well. The problem is schools have shifted the focus from educating to test taking. The more kids that pass the standardized tests, the better the school appears to be doing and the more grant money they receive. Programming kids to regurgitate test answers isn't teaching.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:23:18 PM

No I am asking you to please use your skills to express yourself without resorting to crude language thats all.

Take the high road Cliff!

[Edited by: flyboyUT at 12/3/2012 4:24:28 PM EST]
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:18:31 PM

What are you, the thought police?
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:48:23 PM

"Seriously though, its a dumb move,"

Well, it -is- France that considering this.



"As far as our own schools; "no child left behind" has already dumbed down our kids"

Actually, NCLB has its good points, like the standard against which all schoolchildren in the United States must be measured. Because of NCLB, states were forced to address issues like racial, economic, and special needs disparities in performance that would have gone ignored.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 12/3/2012 3:49:51 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:34:51 PM

More potty mouth from Cliffy. Cliff clean up your language please.
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:16:46 PM

More fluff crap from Fox.
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cymk
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:11:20 PM

Well this fits with the French stance of giving up as a first line of defense.

Seriously though, its a dumb move, that will no doubt change soon, but no one will report that it has changed and the world will think France nothing but fools.

As far as our own schools; "no child left behind" has already dumbed down our kids, I don't think we need to get rid of homework.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:04:51 PM

"Marty havent the conservatives here been telling you for a long time that we need to get the Federal Government OUT of education."

Don't get orgasmic. I have no issue with the government helping fund education... funding via state and local taxes is far too unevenly distributed. I have no issue with broad-based laws guaranteeing everyone an equal opportunity for a good education, nor do I have an issue with state or federal mandates for educational standards, but this article is about politicians micro-managing decisions that should be made at the school and classroom level.



"Maybe we should seriouslyu look at getting state level government of reduce their footprint in education also."

Education is a state responsibility. The state's involvement is completely appropriate.




[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 12/3/2012 3:09:21 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 2:44:30 PM

And heeeerrrrre we go--- Marty sez - "Politicians have no expertise in educational practice... one wonders why they fancy themselves as experts in education."

Marty havent the conservatives here been telling you for a long time that we need to get the Federal Government OUT of education. Maybe we should seriouslyu look at getting state level government of reduce their footprint in education also.

Marty I surely am glad to recognize that you have finally seen the light and have started adopting conservative principles. Dont stop now your doing good.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 2:21:12 PM

Politicians have no expertise in educational practice... one wonders why they fancy themselves as experts in education. Indeed, assignment of homework is not a liberal versus conservative issue at all but rather a research-based one.The best research indicates that 10 minutes of homework per grade level (total) is appropriate... meaning that a 7th grader should expect 70 minutes of homework per night for all subjects combined (excluding long-range projects).

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 12/3/2012 2:22:42 PM EST]
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 2:14:04 PM

Not really sgm...where did the European liberalism start? Also many here, especially during the healthcare debate, pointed to Europe as a model.

The biggest problem with much of liberal thought is that it is a slippery slope of forced equality instead of people being able to use their natural ability and instincts of competitiveness to make their way in the world. It is the old "give and inch; take a yard" adage. I truly believe that liberals want to do good...they just do not see the future in their decisions and how giving stuff to people leads people to want more stuff to be given to them.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 1:51:29 PM

Now, see how ridiculous the comparisons of American liberals to European socialism really are? For pete's sake, I haven't seen anything like this over here.
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