AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 4:18:07 PM
"I will take "maybe never" for $100 please."
Exactly because while Bush was president you all found it perfectly fine that so many could call him names and poke fun at him...but now that Obama is president it is not allowed and even worse...it is all of a sudden RACIST to make fun of the president.
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worryfree

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 4:12:32 PM
He is a compassionate and emotional father.
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michaelphoenix2

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 4:08:59 PM
It seems a thread i have started in an effort to encourage proper political discourse has devolved into anther flame topic. I was a little happy when it fell of the from page a couple weeks ago. Now its been necroed.
My apologies. I thought we were better than this. I was sadly wrong.
Someone close this thread. Its pointless now.
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1OILMAN

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 4:06:52 PM
I just call him clueless.
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theTower

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 4:02:18 PM
"Dubya- his middle name to distinguish him from his father-"
Not according to your first topic in the GB politics forum. So were you lying then? Or lying now? because we know you called George W. Bush every name in the book.
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owt

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 3:30:12 PM
I like Dumbocrat Obummer.
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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 7:47:58 PM
Steve there is a group 4 also - those who respect the office of President but really dislike the person presently holding it.
For some reason you demand that the office be inseparable from the man/woman. Not so.
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worryfree

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 7:45:15 PM
We need some compassion for our cons- they were SO sure of Mitt and now they have to be irrationally upset for 4 more years.
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Wanda127

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 7:44:04 PM
I will still call him Obama since that is his name. All presidents are use to being called by their last name like Reagan, Bush, Clinton, etc. Even the press just says Mr. Obama lots of the time.
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fracknsave

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 7:41:17 PM
Group 3: I used to be the nastiest of group 2, but when I graduated myself up to group 1, the people who never said a word to the contrary, accept me as though it was never any other way, so I get to look down my nose and unhypocritically lecture all the other cretins... so poetic
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SemiSteve

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 7:10:11 PM
*BING*
We have a winner.
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jayrad1957

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 6:06:14 PM
"Maybe we can have a meaningful discussion in four years. Maybe never. We don't know."
I will take "maybe never" for $100 please.
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SemiSteve

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 6:01:25 PM
Looks like we have two general groups here.
Group 1: 'President Obama deserves our respect. After all he is the President. I agree/disagree with his policies but, like him or not, he is our President.' /Very realistic.
Group 2: 'I refuse to acknowledge [insert favorite derogatory term] as President, or I've begrudgingly admitted he is the Prez and I am so angry about it that I intend to berate him until he's out of office. Therefore I will call him any lousy thing that comes to mind. I will make up or believe anything that supports my fantasy that I am justified in disrespecting the man/office.' /Myopic.
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There is no need to list why you Group 2 people feel justified with your dissing. We've heard it all before. You will never convince the rest of us that you are doing the right thing. We'd try to tell you that you lose credibility by being so immature but you won't listen and prefer to wallow in your anger. So be it. Maybe we can have a meaningful discussion in four years. Maybe never. We don't know.
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BlackGumTree

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 5:37:59 PM
I respect the Office of President of the United States of America.
But I have no respect for Barack Hussein Obama.
"President" is a title for an office. But Obama has not shown that he meets the constitutional requirements to be eligible for that office. Specifically, he is not a Natural Born Citizen. We are not talking about "natural birth" in the medical sense; we are talking about "Natural Born Citizen" in the political sense. Politically a "Natural Born Citizen" is the child of two parents both of whom are citizens of the country.
He is supposed to have a law degree and to be quite aware of the US Constitution. As a US citizen who is not qualified for the office of President of the United States of America, he is a traitor to the United States of America. He is not eligible to have the title "President" in front of his name. He is only Mr. Obama to me.
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worryfree

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 5:16:14 PM
Dubya- his middle name to distinguish him from his father- learned it from Republicans
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owt

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:56:15 PM
WF....and what did you call Bush?????
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FluffyDogAttack

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:21:55 AM
Oh this is great!
I hope it's the first in a series of righteous indignation over trivial matters.
Next up: What names we shouldn't call that noble comic Carrot-top.
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worryfree

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 12:21:18 AM
Sore losers sink to the bottom. GW Bush was my President. Obama is now President of all of us. Like it or not. Deny it or not.
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AC-302

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 12:02:46 AM
michaelphoenix2 - now see what you've done? You've opened up all the old wounds here on the politics boards. Here you are calling for tolerance of Obama, when the same liberals here (minus a few now-banned ones) were savaging the person (not just the policies) of George W. Bush. And again, to the minds of some here (and I'm not calling either side dumb, they're not) Obama's policies doesn't fit their view of America. OK, so does America have to change to fit Obama's worldview? I think not. Can Obama influence America? Perhaps. But wouldn't he be better to institute gradual and reversible changes? That way, if it turns out to be the wrong path, we can go back. But that doesn't seem to be what he wants to do.
Flyboy has another very good point - our President and his cronies (led by Jay Carney and Susan Rice) blatantly LIED to the American People and the world. That was just plain wrong of him to allow that to happen. This is a legitimate concern I have with our president. And this isn't the first lie he's told. Remember the ObamaCare? It wasn't supposed to be a tax - until he got to the SCOTUS, and then said (through his liars) "oh yeah.. it is a tax." There's another one. I do not understand why the left is not concerned with either lie. Guess what? It's not OK to lie to the People. It's not OK to say "Well, it's OK" just because you like him. The standards of behavior should not change because you like one guy and dislike the other. Obama lied and it was wrong of him, and he has not even bothered to apologize to the people whom he supposedly is serving. That is just plain wrong, and he needs to be held to account.
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AFSNCO

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Montgomery
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 12:01:15 AM
That he got elected may not be an accident...but that doesn't mean his presidency is not a train wreck!
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KansasGunman

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 11:47:12 PM
"Obama is the President, and it's not at all by accident"
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And those who voted him back in again for the next four years will be getting exactly what they've gotten for the past four...screwed.
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Panama19

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 9:32:19 PM
ministorage, "There is no record--anywhere--that he ever changed it back"
Nor his citizenship.
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ministorage

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:34:35 PM
"BTW, his NAME is Barack Obama."
His adopted name is Barry Soetoro.
There is no record--anywhere--that he ever changed it back.
[Edited by: ministorage at 12/2/2012 8:35:41 PM EST]
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noseatbelt

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:22:59 PM
not at all a accident, that's true, it was no accident the way he bought votes, and got the gullable to vote for him again. It was more like a disaster, that will now continue for four more years, but it will take much longer, for the country to recover from eight years of obamanomics.
[Edited by: noseatbelt at 12/2/2012 8:26:19 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:18:29 PM
Obama is the President, and it's not at all by accident.
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noseatbelt

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:13:19 PM
pard, my thoughts exactly. liberals, called bush a lot of things, but it was very seldom president.
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Pard

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:12:41 PM
BTW, his NAME is Barack Obama. 'President Obama' is his TITLE. Get it straight.
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Pard

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:08:11 PM
I don't remember the libs, during the Bush years, saying 'GWB is MY president.' Just didn't happen. Now I have to say Ovomit is MY prez? No way, Jose.
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ministorage

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 7:43:39 PM
"You people are quite mixed up thinking Obama commands some sort of higher honor than an ordinary man. He doesn't."
I know ordinary men who own up to their mistakes. I know many a man whose word is his bond. I know many ordinary men who have integrity.
Methinks, perhaps, Barack Hussein Obama is not an ordinary man.
IMHO
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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 7:17:16 PM
Do I have a choice Jay?
Obama may occupy the office but I do not have to acknowledge him as my choice at all. As someone else said he may, by accident, be 'the' president but he is not 'my' president.
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theTower

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 7:14:21 PM
He is the President of the people of United States that voted for him. The current Pen Holder in Chief. What other titles you wish to confer on Obama are meaningless. He holds no other special meaning to me. He's just a man. And a lousy one at that. He isn't my anything. I have such little respect for the office of president, it makes no difference who is in there shining the chair with their expensive suit wearing ass. Obama is just the liar who go x amount of votes that put him in office. Again. It could have easily gone the other way and then Romney would be the current Pen Holder in Chief...etc etc etc. You people are quite mixed up thinking Obama commands some sort of higher honor than an ordinary man. He doesn't.
[Edited by: theTower at 12/2/2012 7:17:48 PM EST]
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jayrad1957

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 6:28:21 PM
"He is not 'my ' president."
Who is "your" president?
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MiddletownMarty

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 6:11:07 PM
"He is not 'my ' president." Actually he is, whether or not you wish to acknowledge it.
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fracknsave

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 4:53:16 PM
Good ole 'diversity of opinion' eh worry free? a tenet of liberalism unless you disagree with them...
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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 4:21:27 PM
What is really funny --- I have the right to call him anything I want. He is not 'my ' president. I didn't vote for him either time he ran. I will not choose to call him 'my' president.
I have a lot of respect for the office he holds. I have very little if any respect for the policies and lies and actions of the man in the office. If I ever had the chance to meet and talk to him we more than likely would find things in common. But with what I know at present - I do not wish to talk to him - I just want him to leave office -- like first thing monday morning if not sooner.
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RogerB

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 4:10:11 PM
OK, I agree. President Obama is well on the way implementing OBAMUNISM.
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worryfree

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 3:46:37 PM
You don't have to call him anything. Why don't you find a cave to move into for the next 4 years?
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owt

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 3:06:28 PM
How soon will we have to call him "Dear Leader"?
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Cliffisher

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 1:41:01 PM
The wailing wacko birthers are back.
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jayrad1957

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 12:52:16 PM
"Anyone who still supports such a disaster of a president doesn't need to say ANYTHING to indicate their religious loyalty to the con artist. Simply defending the slug is evidence enough of your devotion to him! For you to ignore and conveniently dispel the massive weight of the evidence against him shows how much you believe that he walks on water!"
That tinfoil hat seems to be getting tight...
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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 11:20:04 AM
>>Fundamentally, we cannot continue spending more than we take in. And we take in plenty, and spend WAAAYY too much.<<
I think almost all of us would agree with that.
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PappaVanTwee

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 11:11:22 AM
>>> Anyone who still supports such a disaster of a president doesn't need to say ANYTHING to indicate their religious loyalty to the con artist. Simply defending the slug is evidence enough of your devotion to him! For you to ignore and conveniently dispel the massive weight of the evidence against him shows how much you believe that he walks on water! <<<
Welcome to the boards, Mark Levine. Here's hoping your words don't split the country in two. Fortunately, nobody listens to you.
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AC-302

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:06:38 PM
I also have some basic and legitimate "beefs" with Obama. But it's based strictly in policy and worldview, not in race, nor religion (whatever he wants to call himself, he did grow up Muslim, he admitted it himself, and that's fine, too). My beefs with him are in fiscal policy, foreign policy and some social policies.
Fundamentally, we cannot continue spending more than we take in. And we take in plenty, and spend WAAAYY too much. The cuts must come, there's no question about that. And government is going to have to freeze spending, period. None of this 'glide path' nonsense.
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jjewell

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:25:39 PM
The Kenyan, Obumma, OBlahma, Barack Hussein, The First Non American to hold the Oval Office, Obozo.
He's not all of those???
Oh, Enjoy your 4 years with him.
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jayrad1957

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:17:29 PM
jeskibuff, your proved my point. Thank you.
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fracknsave

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:02:24 PM
Another thing to keep in mind, despite barry's pandering proclamation on the campaign trail in '08: Support your country all of the time, and your gubr'ment when it deserves it....(and he's part of da gubr'ment, no?)
[Zim, I have no problem making a distinction between the office and the resider]
[Edited by: fracknsave at 12/1/2012 12:05:28 PM EST]
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Zimcity

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:00:06 PM
fracknsave, clearly you aren't looking very hard then.
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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:56:57 AM
>>He is not a natural born citizen of the United States which requires that both parents be US citizens.<<
Huh? You mean that all of the anchor babies that are born in the United States to parents from Mexico, South America, Iraq, or anywhere else in this world are not natural born citizens?
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fracknsave

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:53:12 AM
I don't see anybody, as you say 'disrespecting the office' here
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Zimcity

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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:42:24 AM
Sorry michaelphoenix2, but you can see that your plea for civility and a modicum of respect for the office is predictably falling on deaf ears.
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