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AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 5:59:56 PM

Union protests at Los Angeles airport, threatening to disrupt holiday travel

Before you lefty union backers go nuts make sure you read the article...particularly the part about the vote to decertify this union with this company they are protesting against. The union is just angry because it lost contracts and will have more expiring soon and probably will not be renewed.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:51:34 AM

"And how do you convince them to be good Americans when they see you being exploited for simple greed? Not a good lesson to learn at an early age. Breeds contempt for the entire concept of what America stands for.
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Oh I dont know - maybe teach them stuff like working for what you want. How about being responsible. Then there is always the concept if you accept the job - do the job. Little things that it seems a lot of kids, and adults, have just not learned.

[Edited by: flyboyUT at 11/23/2012 10:52:23 AM EST]
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:42:03 AM

YDraigGoch, "National health care is a logical extension of companies keeping their employees well. That was originally, and still is, a good business decision. Spreading the costs across the entire population is a good national decision, since it allows ALL businesses to take advantage of it at a reduced cost."

The stores would not be open if there were not enough consumers wanting to go out and shop at that time.
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:28:30 AM

I have seldom had to work on holidays. That is because I made the choice to get into high tech engineering. Most plants shut down for holidays. Even if they are rushing to meet orders, it is seldom I am on anything more than standby.

However, while I was going to college, I worked as a field service technician on medical equipment. If an ICU goes down on Christmas day, you can't tell them "Take two fuses and call me in the morning".

But there is a HUGE difference between giving up Christmas to save lives, and having to give it up so some already wealthy investors can add a few bucks to their bloated portfolios. You can never recoup those lost Christmasses with your kids. And how do you convince them to be good Americans when they see you being exploited for simple greed? Not a good lesson to learn at an early age. Breeds contempt for the entire concept of what America stands for.

Or has the left been correct all this time, and greed actually IS the new patriotism?
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 8:50:25 AM

Pax, I recognize the sarcasm, but, evidence does point to a reviving economy. Macy's swears there were 35,000 waiting for the opening of their doors in New York City this am.
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PappaVanTwee
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:33:32 AM

There will be nobody at these door buster deals anyway, since the economy is in such a shambles, right?
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 11:19:05 PM

"The employees have every right to protest this gross invasion of one of our last quality hodidays. (Christmas has forever been ruined and turned into an absurdity)"

I you do not wish to shop by all means stay home.

However if the store owner decides to stay open to allow others to shop that is his choice. The workers are free to find another job somewhere where the work hours are more to their liking. As I see it the store has the right to fire anyone who refuses to work when requested.

Its funny I have never had a job in my life where it wasnt expected for me to work holidays and weekends and any other time the work needed me there. My choice always was to work as requested/needed or go into another line of work. I chose to continue working regardless of what day it was on the calendar.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 10:50:47 PM

SEIU gives unions a bad name.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 5:18:37 AM

AF, I used to be a SEIU organizer. Notice I said USED to be.

SEIU is a rough and ready union that grew by force. Wade Rathke, an avowed Socialist, gained control of the union in the late '80's. His goal, as he told me personally, was to overthrow the free enterprise system of capitalism and eventually overthrow the government of the US. I walked out the door after he said that to me and never looked back.

No, this has nothing to do with the current Administration. So please, do not try to tie it to Obama. It is just a bad union.
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michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 9:30:29 PM

Johnny, I'm working as well tomorrow. However you cannot deny that the earlier and earlier black fridays are getting out of hand. Its turning a nice day with your family into a shopping frenzy. Opening at 8 PM is quite simply absurd.

The employees have every right to protest this gross invasion of one of our last quality hodidays. (Christmas has forever been ruined and turned into an absurdity)

Quite frankly we should be out there picketing with them, to protest the encroachment of the holiday shopping frenzy. I'm at least voting with my wallet and staying home during the black friday stupidity.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 8:59:09 PM

“”Because of this employees cannot even enjoy a Thanksgiving with their families due to the corporate greed.””

I have had to work at least on one of the following, Memorial Day, the Fourth of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas day for the last twenty years. The first eight in the military and the rest at the job I am in now. That doesn’t even include the other holidays most people get off. In the military you know going in that you will have to miss time with your family, in some cases over a year at a time. The job I work now made it clear in the interview posses that you will start working 2nd or 3rd shift and weekends and holidays until you had enough seniority to get better days off and shifts.

If you work for one of the big box retailers you know, or should know, that this is part of the job. If you don’t like it go to a trade school and get a better job. That’s what I did.
By the way if it wasn’t for “corporate greed” most of us wouldn’t have a job.
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michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 7:36:50 PM

Mudtoe----I'd like to see those union idiots get between some of those shoppers that have been camping out all night and the door buster bargain on say flat screen TVs. If they do that I think our union friends will need their Obamacare benefits far earlier than they think. :)
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They wont be contending with customers that have been camping out all night because Walmart is starting with its sales at 8PM on Thanksgiving. THATS what the picketing is about. The mega-stores creeping their start times earlier and earlier. Because of this employees cannot even enjoy a Thanksgiving with their families due to the corporate greed.



[Edited by: michaelphoenix2 at 11/21/2012 7:37:24 PM EST]
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 7:07:13 PM

A friend of mine was a greeter at wallmart, he said you learn real quick not to get in the way of shoppers during the christmas shopping season. He said he came close to being run over more then once.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 6:55:40 PM

nsb: "unions are going after wallmart friday. I wonder if it will work? "


I'd like to see those union idiots get between some of those shoppers that have been camping out all night and the door buster bargain on say flat screen TVs. If they do that I think our union friends will need their Obamacare benefits far earlier than they think. :)


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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 6:31:04 PM

unions are going after wallmart friday. I wonder if it will work? I know several people that work at wallmart, and they say they will be working, and want nothing to do with a union.
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 6:30:08 PM

Unions have been lurking in the weeds for 4 years with the exception of the ransacking of Wisconsin.

Now they have a free pass to cause havoc everywhere we go.

Good luck with that, the public will quickly remember the disdain they had for unions a few years ago.

I love it, let them yell in everyone's faces for 4 years! Where is the occupiers? Bring them back in force too!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 6:25:34 PM

Hmmm.... So to publicize their issues and gain sympathy from the public, the union decides to do everything it can to prevent thousands of people from getting home for Thanksgiving. I'm sure that will endear the union to the people who were delayed and hassled, as well as to their families. Unless this is the PETA union trying to save turkeys or maybe the union for the hate America crowd, I don't get it.


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 11/21/2012 6:27:31 PM EST]
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