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michaelphoenix2

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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 5:59:02 PM

We are no more all takers that republicans are all bible thumping trailerhouse white trash. You can believe whatever characture that you want to believe, but that does not make it true. I'm a liberal.

I am a 27 yr old Netwrok admin, I put myself through collage working customer server at a call center. I have a wife who does 3D animation for a production studio. Neither one of us recieves any government benifits. I am not a taker. Neither are the majority of people that the right seem to be demonizing ever since Hannity made those bone-headed remarks on election night.

Try something for me, please. Go out and actually talk to a member of the opposing party. Learn for yourself that there are real human beings out there who simply have a different opinion than you.

I'm not a taker, you are not the charactures that have been lobbied your way. WE are all just people...plain and simple.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 7:40:46 AM

">> If we ran the country like a venture capital business we would have to sell off most of the red States. They are just not providing enough revenue. <<"

If the country ran like VC business, the budget would be balanced. But, it doesn't. So, when the debt reaches the point where we can't print any more money and interest on debt is well above GDP, I'm all for a new country composed of red states.

Red states have the natural resources, transportation routes, and now a large population of industrious people.
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EKEugene
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 12:04:21 PM


>> If we ran the country like a venture capital business we would have to sell off most of the red States. They are just not providing enough revenue. <<

Very good point, even though they are providing a lot of red whine lately.

Damn, we should have voted for Romney. He'd sell 'em off to China in a heartbeat. But nooo, now we'll be stuck with Obama's insistence on keeping them red states on the basis of that socialist "Constitution" or whatever it's called. Hope you're happy, Obamatrons.

(/sarc)
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cbuck80
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 9:38:47 AM

SS you need to go back to the drawing board.
The Dakota's Oklahoma and Texas bring in plenty of revenue just to name a few.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 9:12:56 AM

If we ran the country like a venture capital business we would have to sell off most of the red States. They are just not providing enough revenue.
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Gidzmo
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 2:10:37 PM

Michale, I don't have a problem with the truly disabled, the elderly, and the veterans getting benefits.

The truly disabled cannot work or can do limited work.
The elderly have worked many years.
The veterans have, in my very humble opinion, MORE than paid this country back.

As I explained to my oldest niece, there is no 'free' anything. No 'free' phones, 'free' healthcare, nothing. Someone pays for it all--and THAT 'someone' would be you and me.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:55:57 AM

cliff: "Last but not least, find some 100% disabled teenagers and tell them how much you hate them because they are takers. "


You know, if the able and lazy and able and drug using takers who should be fit to work would stop abusing the system and would actually do some work rather than doing things like pumping out more kids as fast as possible in order to get more benefits and generally sponging off the rest of us producers, then there would be sufficient money available for those who really need it. The slackers have ruined it for everyone who really needs assistance.

mudtoe
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:20:50 AM

Since Florida1541 ignored my post (does he have me on ignore?) Here it is again.
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florida1541
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:39:01 AM

where is the link that proofs the red states get more
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:21:22 AM

florida1541, take a ride up to the Cleveland VA Hospital and tell the vet patients how much you hate them because they are takers.

Next take a ride to coal country and tell the miners that retired after 40 years in the mines that you hate them because they are takers.

Last but not least, find some 100% disabled teenagers and tell them how much you hate them because they are takers.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:21:09 AM

Was Not one of the founding Credos of this nation

""Taxation Without Representation"" ?

We are ALL being Taxed for others that are not.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:06:38 AM

mini: "She is the consummate example of a "taker." "


And of course they pump out new little takers as fast as possible, who are brought up in that lifestyle, and so the cycle grows and repeats. These cycles have been going on since 1965, with each new cycle having more people than the last, and the cost of each cycle has been growing far faster than the economy can absorb. I think this is going to be the last cycle though because of how rapidly its ranks have swelled in the past four years, as we don't have the money to finish this cycle let alone pay for the next one which would be even larger.


mudtoe


[Edited by: mudtoe at 11/14/2012 10:09:19 AM EST]
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Noreen9
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:44:36 AM

DANA MILBANK: THE CONFEDERACY OF TAKERS:

President Obama’s opponents have unwittingly come up with a brilliant plan to avoid the “fiscal cliff.” They want to secede from the union.

Any petition that receives 25,000 or more signatures within 30 days is promised a response (though not necessarily a favorable one) from the Obama administration.They should be careful about what they wish for. It would be excellent financial news for those of us left behind if Obama were to grant a number of the rebel states their wish “to withdraw from the United States and create [their] own NEW government

Red states receive, on average, far more from the federal government in expenditures than they pay in taxes. The balance is the opposite in blue states.

once the handout states left the union (and took with them a proportionate share of the federal debt), the rest of the country could enjoy lower taxes and the high level of government service typical of the Northeast, the Great Lakes and the West Coast.

GREAT ARTICLE POSTED BY Michiganian: THESE ARE JUST A PORTION OF WAHT IS A VERY INTERESTING IDEA. CHECK IT OUT THEN DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO SECEDE.

link to this article is posted below by Michiganian Enjoy your day everyone.
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Noreen9
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:25:24 AM

Nicely Said MichaelPhoenix

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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:10:04 AM

I hope you libs like what you voted for....I still like someone to explain to me how so many precincts voted 100%.....I mean TOTALLY for obama..

There are many reasons obama won....my wife worked as a precinct worker and she saw first hand the malfunctions of voting machines (and it was always ONE WAY in the malfunction!!!

...how many of these were programmed in ?????
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 6:50:19 AM

A Confederacy of takers.
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jacka123
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 11:43:30 PM

I think what it is, is not that all liberals are takers, it's just that most takers become liberals, because the liberals are the ones who keep giving. And, can you blame them. Heck, if I were poor, or homeless, couldn't find a job, whatever, I'd probably vote democrat too. Why wouldn't you. Who is going to help you more, democrats or republicans? Most would say democrats of course, at least that's what the perception is. Between me and my wife, we have more than 20 years volunteer service for a Help Center in our County, and I find that to be very true. You can tell by their chatter, that at least 90% are democrats, but more likely 100%. And I don't think anyone is going to change their minds, because they depend on that help from the government. I really cannot blame them, it's the only way they survive, that help and the help of churches in the area. But the government, needs to do a better job of supplementing their income when they get a job, not take away everything. A lot of those people want to work, but cannot afford to. Once again, the government is just to big, to get it right.
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jacka123
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 11:31:41 PM

Michael, are there really people here that have said, "ALL LIBERALS are takers"? If so, I haven't seen that. No one can make a broad statement like that, and really have a clue what they're talking about. Not all of any group of people all think the same way. That would be quite stupid for anyone to say that, if they really mean it. It just is not true, and Like I said earlier, I haven't really seen that.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 11:10:47 PM

"The majority of subsidies for states and people go to the "Red" Southern states. All forms of assistance. Some people don't check facts but would keep repeating the same old thing they hear of Fox News-Fair and Balanced...right? Right!"

Ah, nice...unfortunately your broad paint brush does not tell the entire story. Here in Alabama the majority of welfare recipients live in three metropolitan areas...Birhmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile....all dominated by Democratic leadership and politics. Hmm....
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WhiteRaven48
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 11:05:30 PM

flyboyUT, the phone is actually "free" to the taker. LOL
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:51:27 PM

FWIW, taking advantage of the system doesn't have anything to do with one's color or ethnicity.

I have a friend. She is white, the youngest of three--she is the baby. Everything was given to her. Her family owned a meat distributing business in town. Among regular grocery stores, they delivered to all the country clubs. Her parents belonged to the clubs, and they lived a wonderful life. She went to the best private schools in town.

As an adult, she dropped out of college--but only after her father had sent her to four universities. She did not earn even 12 hours (not one semester of credits) after all of that.

Then, she got married, to a loser. He was from my public high school. They had a child, which she gave up for adoption (and then they got a divorce).

One redeeming act in her life was not killing her child. Otherwise, she is worthless. She was used to having everything done for her--she can't do anything for herself.

Eventually, her aging parents died, and she got their house.

She has back trouble, and she got on SSI (supplemental security income--not Disability) 20 years ago because she never had any income to qualify for actual Disability.

Today, in addition to her federal SSI income, she gets food stamps. She milks the system for all it is worth.

She has an "Obamaphone." BUT, she also has a phone with a national provider, (which she had *before* she ever got her "Obamaphone"). When her 3500 minutes are up in the 4th week of her traditional contract, she uses her 250 minute "Obamaphone" as a bridge.

She uses the system because it is available to use. She is a friend, but I have trouble respecting her. I am polite, but I really do not respect her. She is so worthless, it would be useless to even have that conversation.

She is the consummate example of a "taker."

Disillusionment is a good thing

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/13/2012 10:56:55 PM EST]
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:32:15 PM

I read the pompous OP statement, and yes, you are takers, whether you receive government assistance or not, please allow me to explain...

You, as a liberal, want to take more revenues from one class of people, and give it to another, at least that is what is advertised. In reality, you want to re-distribute the people's money for the purposes of social engineering, i.e. green energy companies, administration of the new government control of healthcare, artificially propping up private industry, but only those industries handpicked for whatever reason (GM, Chrysler, AIG, etc.)

Now, where does all of this money come from? The people's taxes, and thus, now that a budget is nothing more than a 6 letter word, you must "take", and "take" you will. The "wealthy", or as the last definition is defined, is anyone that makes more than 250K a year, they need to pay their "fair share". What is their "fair share"? Nobody knows, except some of us believe that the "fair share" that they want is 100%.

I do not fit this criteria, as my income is less than 250K per year, but yet my self employment tax is going up 0.9% on January 1st, this additional money of mine is being "taken" to help bankroll ObamaCare©. This is just one example as to how more of my money is being "taken" by liberal policy, and you can't get any more middle class than me.

It's no wonder that jobs are being outsourced, downsized, and revenue laundered. The exorbitant costs of doing this is miniscule to the tax rate burden currently and proposed.

Just because you yourself don't profit from any of the redistribution schemes proffered by the left, doesn't mean that you are not a "taker". I fully understand the financial mess this country is in, and that revenue must be raised in short order to fix it. But I don't want to throw any more money in the pot until I know that they'll spend it wisely, and actually put together a budget, one that is realistic, one that cuts where it hurts, and adhere religiously to that budget.

This country's financial management can be equated to going to a restaurant, and buying quite the high end meal. When the check comes, they just order more, over and over again, to avoid the check. This is not a proper way to budget a restaurant meal, and the same can be said of the US government's spending habits.

I wonder who's sock puppet this poster is...

[Edited by: EZExit at 11/13/2012 10:37:10 PM EST]
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:31:42 PM

And from your characterizations of Republicans as "bone headed", you might take your own advice. You might learn something if you would talk to the other side. Realize they are just as sincere as you are, and want the same thing for our country. Don't you want every American who can work to have a meaningful job and to earn their own bread? Don't you want our country to have a great economy and be competitive in a world market for goods and services? Now, don't you think conservatives and Republicans think the same way? I largely believe the difference is in how we get there.

Something else I would tell you. I don't know if you are a poster who has gone *poof* and come back. I might guess that you are in how you've entered the fracus that is US Politics so easily. That said, no matter. If we say you are not, and I take you at face value that you really are a newbie here, you'll find that there are some posters here who hold grandiose ideas for all of the social services we ought to offer all Americans and all foreigners who come here, illegal or not. Great. But the one theme that you will find pervades ALL of my criticisms of the left's plans is: "So how you gonna pay for it"? You do realize that the country has, in effect, run out of money. We're borrowing more than we take in in revenue. Pretty soon, the interest on the national debt will exceed our ability to pay for it - welcome to Greece and the rest of the PIIGS! You want to offer some service, such as health care? OK, I'll bite. How do you pay for it, and how do you institute it without taking away my freedom of choice?

When you can answer those questions, then we can talk. Until then, and until you can conclusively show your revenue stream, then it's hot air.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:25:42 PM

turbosaab: "If Obamaphone has been disproven, then what is THIS?"

Disillusionment?

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/13/2012 10:29:47 PM EST]
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:22:31 PM

If Obamaphone has been disproven, then what is this?

"The free Obama phone is an important program, especially for low income families that would otherwise not have access to basic communications. There are different plans to choose from. Some plans offer fewer minutes and more texting and some even include rollover minutes. Make sure you check out all the plans before choosing the one that is right for you."
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:14:49 PM

"Free phone" program started under Clinton

But, the "free phones" weren't distributed until 2008. For those of you with short term memory loss, Bush was president at that time.

btw, there are things on my property tax bill I pay for but don't use.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:03:18 PM

flyboy: "Can anyone tell me a good reason why I should be forced into paying for someone elses 'free phone'?"


Why, because the money you contribute to those free phones helps generate more votes for democrat politicians. That's reason enough, at least as far as democrat politicians are concerned. Just consider it a forced campaign contribution.


mudtoe
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 9:55:56 PM

The only takers are the mentally challenged. I have never met any of these takers that were with full faculty
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 9:43:37 PM

"The very first thing that should bve done is to understand that there is no such thing as a 'free phone'."

Talk to WhiteRaven; "free phone" was his term, though I do understand the use of the term "free" in the context of his original post concerning the matter (i.e. free of cost to the recipient).

Do try to stay away from semantics.




"I help pay for theses so called free phones every time I pay my phone bill."

Theses? Whiches? So do I.



"Can anyone tell me a good reason why I should be forced into paying for someone elses 'free phone'?"

Cancel your phone services. Problem solved. (You're forced into paying for 911 service too, you know.)



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 11/13/2012 9:50:16 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 8:31:31 PM

"There must be some sort of system to account for who has already received a free phone... it's time to implement it."- Middletown Marty "

The very first thing that should bve done is to understand that there is no such thing as a 'free phone'. I help pay for theses so called free phones every time I pay my phone bill. Can anyone tell me a good reason why I should be forced into paying for someone elses 'free phone'?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 7:27:57 PM

Not all of the 47%ers are liberals.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 7:02:43 PM

YDG: "Their prophets have pronounced you to be a taker, and one does not dare defy the prophets."

You're a hoot! Has *anyone* pronounced michalephoenix2 a taker? I didn't think so. Why don't you and your strawman go take a hike.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 6:44:56 PM

SS: "Hard to figure out the opposition to free birth control for liberals. "


For once I agree with you SS. Perhaps it would be better for the country to legalize a whole lot of things, like drugs. Somehow I think a much larger proportion of takers would succumb to the allure of drugs than producers, and if government benefits can be used to buy drugs then the proportion might be high enough to actually make a big dent in the deficit. I'm sure that Obamacare can be adjusted to allow for only 3 drug overdose resuscitations per person, and after that Darwin is in charge.


mudtoe



[Edited by: mudtoe at 11/13/2012 6:47:57 PM EST]
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 6:35:54 PM

michaelphoenix2 ;

Nice post, but wasted on these hard core white wing fanatics.

Their prophets have pronounced you to be a taker, and one does not dare defy the prophets. Salman Rushdie had an easier time with it than you will.

Consider the source, then just ignore them. Just like the rest of America started doing in the recent election.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 6:00:26 PM

SS: "Face it. You're just guessing; based on your political leanings."

At question was your assessment of what constitutes "FACTS". It seems that you are willing to take anything that agrees with you at face value without question. That's the epitome of biased thinking and judging material on the basis of *your* political leanings. Clean up your own house before you criticize others.

SS: " It has been shown time and again on many topics here that this 47% includes millionaires, people who earn but qualify for more deductions than their tax liability, and those who work but don't make enough to pay taxes."

There is no indication anywhere that Romney's reference to 47% was the same as the 47% of households that don't pay income tax. That was simply an election year, liberal canard that you obviously took as gospel because of your "political leanings".SS: "I would put the percentage of 'takers' at 1% to 5% at the highest."

Hee. Hee. This is just too easy......

SS: "Because big wheeler-dealers like Bain Capital and their ilk have made millions by destroying American jobs."

Wow, that makes two nonsense liberal canards in one post. Watch your bias!
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WhiteRaven48
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 5:36:35 PM

"<<Perfectly fine."- Michiganian

Now there is an example of what is wrong within this country.....perfectly fine with welfare recipients ripping off the free phone program.

"Dunno, but I can tell you how I feel about it. I think the free cell phone program meets a valid need and should be retained. I also think that abuses such as the one detailed should be eliminated. There must be some sort of system to account for who has already received a free phone... it's time to implement it."- Middletown Marty

**High Five** to Middletown Marty...your response makes perfect sense!

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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:55:19 PM

What about the 'if anything' part of your assurance, turbo? Perhaps a lot of these 'takers' don't even vote at all. Obviously they are not very responsible people. Why should they bother to vote? I would suspect they are quite apathetic.

And if some of them do vote, how do we know the voting preference of these 'takers'?

It is impossible to identify them. On which site should one search for such information? It is not like they have all signed up on I'mataker.com.

Face it. You're just guessing; based on your political leanings.

And let us also not lose sight of the fact that the associated inference is that the entire 47% of Romney's 'victims' are all 'takers'. A complete assumption. And a wild exaggeration. It has been shown time and again on many topics here that this 47% includes millionaires, people who earn but qualify for more deductions than their tax liability, and those who work but don't make enough to pay taxes.

I would put the percentage of 'takers' at 1% to 5% at the highest.

Not 47%.

Most people want to work, earn and to be self sufficient.

But the opportunities are not there. Because big wheeler-dealers like Bain Capital and their ilk have made millions by destroying American jobs.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:30:07 PM

SS: "Oh, don't spoil the fun with FACTS, Noreen!"

Don't worry, there were no "FACTS". All I saw was a poor assumption. The *fact* is that >40% of the folks in the ""Red" Southern states" voted for Obama! Now, if you can, show me a breakdown of who received the assistance vs. their voting preference. That will count as "facts".
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Gidzmo
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:26:16 PM

MichaelPhoenix: "We are no more all takers that Republicans are all Bible-thumping trailerhouse white trash. You can believe whatever characture that you want to believe, but that does not make it true. I'm a liberal.

I am a 27-yr-old Network admin, I put myself through college working customer server at a call center. I have a wife who does 3D animation for a production studio. Neither one of us recieves any government benifits. I am not a taker. Neither are the majority of people that the right seem to be demonizing ever since Hannity made those bone-headed remarks on election night.

Try something for me, please. Go out and actually talk to a member of the opposing party. Learn for yourself that there are real human beings out there who simply have a different opinion than you.

I'm not a taker, you are not the charactures that have been lobbied your way. WE are all just people...plain and simple."

Well, Michael....

1) I don't appreciate the name-calling ("Bible-thumping trailerhouse white trash"). It is not necessary. I already see such tactics in social media.

2) I have talked to some on the other side. Sometimes we can 'agree to disagree' and part on good terms. However, there are some who start with the name-calling and threats as soon as you even mention that you're for Romney.

Teens targeted for anti-Obama message

Fourth-graderes ordered to write Obama letters

Professor made students sign vote pledge for Obama

Read the comments on each of the articles. Even in social media, those who are opposed to Obama are ridicled.

Do I know that not everyone is a taker? Yes--but tolerance has seem to have gone one way: those for Obama.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:10:11 PM

Oh, don't spoil the fun with FACTS, Noreen!

He ASSURED us. That's absolute, isn't it?
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florida1541
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:04:12 PM

if we all do what you do why work let some one else give me a milatry pension a company pension ss food stamps wic phone heat 99 weeks unemployment work that is what all are forefathers left us as americans if you can dream it you can have it not if only someone else will give it to me i,ll be ok
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Noreen9
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:03:11 PM

<<<<< I assure you that all the welfare recipients who can work, all those on long-term unemployment, all the medicare/medicaid cheats, all those able-bodied people on disability are liberals/democrats, if anything. No self-respecting conservative/republican would even consider those practices.

The majority of subsidies for states and people go to the "Red" Southern states. All forms of assistance. Some people don't check facts but would keep repeating the same old thing they hear of Fox News-Fair and Balanced...right? Right!
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:01:01 PM

cliff you are a taker because no self respectable person takes more than he needs or can use and that is what you are doing as mitt has said and done in his life help yourself then help others
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:49:03 PM

<<<Hard to figure out the opposition to free birth control for liberals. >>>

I'm thinking it should be free for ALL liberals. Wonder if there's a way to put it in their water bottles?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:44:57 PM

Hard to figure out the opposition to free birth control for liberals.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:39:43 PM

Thank you for posting this!

I am a hard working tax-paying liberal myself.

Just today I, as an atheist, donated to a local church food program for the homeless.

But I heard that some of the 47% Romney thinks are victims are actually millionaires on unemployment.



[Edited by: SemiSteve at 11/13/2012 3:43:07 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:35:44 PM

"how do liberals feel about stuff like this happening?"

Dunno, but I can tell you how I feel about it. I think the free cell phone program meets a valid need and should be retained. I also think that abuses such as the one detailed should be eliminated. There must be some sort of system to account for who has already received a free phone... it's time to implement it.
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:14:08 PM

>> Free birth control. . . <<

Makes sense to be fair if E.D. medication is free.
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:13:05 PM

>> "how do liberals feel about stuff like this happening?" <<Perfectly fine.
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 1:22:37 PM

sgm<<<(and still a loser, but that's neither here nor there). >>>

That depends on whether he's still in your life. If he is then he is here. If not then he is there. Just sayin.
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jamofsocal
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 1:20:08 PM

Free birth control. . .
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