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jayrad1957

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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 10:33:48 AM

Mitt Romney's disastrous ground

Not only did Romney lie to the American public with his continual flip-flopping on issues, he and his staff lied to themselves as well.

Bye bye Willard

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 11/10/2012 10:36:12 AM EST]
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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 9:44:23 AM

"Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan."

And the GOP Platform was born out of wedlock with the American People making it illegitimate ... or worse!







[Edited by: Passer at 11/21/2012 9:46:47 AM EST]
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LTVibe
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 7:21:57 AM

>>Lately it's been amazing how the members of Romney's own party have blamed him for the loss. The Republican Party can't run away from him fast enough.<<

"Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan." - John F. Kennedy

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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 5:51:17 PM

"The Republican Party can't run away from him fast enough."

I think a better word than "run" is "slither". Romney "ran" and lost. The GOP slithers.
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:42:33 PM

"Lately it's been amazing how the members of Romney's own party have blamed him for the loss. The Republican Party can't run away from him fast enough."

Conservatives have been known for quite a while to be cannibalistic -- which is what makes it so delightful every time one of their elected officials gets caught in an indiscretion. It's like throwing a bucket of chum into shark-filled waters. Just sit back and watch the feeding frenzy.
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md11capt
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 10:55:35 AM

Lately it's been amazing how the members of Romney's own party have blamed him for the loss. The Republican Party can't run away from him fast enough.
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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 10:04:29 AM

"[Obama lied]...every time he opened his mouth."

Those type of Fox Facts are why the GOP lost. And now, not just a little bit of sour grapes.

"Every time he opened his mouth"? That's what hatred and being a sore loser does.

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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:22:24 PM

"above all the party has got to REJECT once and for all the James Dobsons and Tony Perkinses and the other opportunist yahoos who have been trying to hijack it into a party of Dominionism (bolstered by their talk radio sycophants who try to hijack it into the party of Eliminationism)."

I like the way you think!!!
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:45:47 PM

It is really amazeing, how liberals accuse romney, of lieing, and flip flopping, while ignoring the fact, that obama did the same, every time he opened his mouth. Obama's lies worked quite well, he got the gullable to vote for him again
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:37:45 PM

Well said ministorage!

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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 5:24:06 PM

Fair enough, ministorage.

At least Mitch McConnel's main focus for four years will no longer be the defeat of Obama. Not exactly the GOP's finest hour when the Minority Leader spent and focused most of his time on this failure of his.

Also, do you think that the Oxy-Moron (Limbaugh who tries to win by doing his dance, the Limbo, dancing and broadcasting as low as you can go) will continue to pray and "hope he fails"? You don't to your credit but the Reactionaries did as they have put their politics above country as usual. They even believed the Fox propaganda and "polls" from their bubble -- fearing science as well as not being on speaking terms with reality. Well, their bubble finally burst as bubbles always will. Now, all they have to do is hire a reality translator and not their usual hire, the one who speaks in forked tongues!
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:01:03 PM

"It's all on Obama's shoulders now. The massive debt, Obamacare, recovery from hurricane Sandy, Europe has fallen into recession again, Mideast turmoil... trying to reduce unemployment while increasing taxes and regulations on business and industry...

...and Obama is running out of scapegoats to blame when things go awry."

That's a perfect storm, and Obama has brought the lion's share of it on himself.

So, jayrad et al., you have every right to bask in the bragging rights for this election. You can talk about Romney's flip-flops and ignore all of Obama's flip-flops and all of his failed promises too. Take all the time you want.

Ayup. He's in charge. It's his responsibility. I support him. And if/when his ideas don't pan out, HE gets the blame. Not Romney. Not Bush. Not the Republicans. (And we ALL KNOW that if Romney were elected and he didn't turn it around, Democrats would be all up in his azz for not doing so--Romney's failed policies, yada yada would be blamed.) What goes 'round, comes around.

Here's for positive results! ;-P

IMHO

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/18/2012 7:07:54 PM EST]
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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:38:59 PM

"If not, they'll continue down the path toward the Whigs."

One would think that the results of this election would cause them to once and for all "flip their Whigs"!

We could start with Trump whose "whig" philosophy is hair today gone tomorrow...
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EKEugene
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:10:02 PM


>> Expect the GOP to lose statewide races year after year after year. <<

That's hard to say -- it depends entirely on whether they listen to the realists among their own such as Peggy Noonan, David Frum, Bobby Jindal and Haley Barbour. So far these have been more demonized than listened to, but above all the party has got to REJECT once and for all the James Dobsons and Tony Perkinses and the other opportunist yahoos who have been trying to hijack it into a party of Dominionism (bolstered by their talk radio sycophants who try to hijack it into the party of Eliminationism).

If the Republicans recognize that poison from within and finally cast out their devils, they'll be back. If not, they'll continue down the path toward the Whigs.

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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:32:55 PM

07sky, "the GOP is dead", I don't buy that at all. All the GOP needs is another Nixon or Reagan to go back to the winner's circle. However this will mean they will have to adjust to the voters' needs. Any adjustment toward the center is a game changer.

Jack, "keep talking about the election and Romney". To the victor go the spoils and bragging rights.
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:51:56 PM

"Expect the GOP to lose statewide races year after year after year."

I don't at all -- at least not in the deep red states. Even in purple states like Mich. we now have a GOP governor as well as a GOP-controlled legislature and supreme court. Too many blue voters don't bother to vote in non-presidential elections, so I expect red politicians to make some gains in the 2014 elections.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 10:51:29 AM

Cons no longer care about Romney? Love sure is fickle.
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trugasCA
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 10:00:43 AM

l wish some of the thousands of quotes l read attributed to R Reagan would just die too. The man mostly learned lines, not made them up.
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:56:55 AM

Expect the GOP to lose statewide races year after year after year.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:07:58 AM

" You know what, us conservatives no longer care about Romney, so why do you guys, lol? "


It was obvious to us that you didn't care about Romney all along, so its good to point that out. Its also good to remind you of your arrogance before the election and maybe the decisive defeat you just suffered would cause you to be humble...but it doesn't seem that the lesson in humility has sunk in yet.

Remember, Pride cometh before the Fall.
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:31:24 AM

Jacka, if I were them I'd be too concerned about other things to care about what's happened to Romney.

It's all on Obama's shoulders now. The massive debt, Obamacare, recovery from hurricane Sandy, Europe has fallen into recession again, Mideast turmoil... trying to reduce unemployment while increasing taxes and regulations on business and industry...

...and Obama is running out of scapegoats to blame when things go awry.

Plenty to worry about. Forget about Romney.


[Edited by: LTVibe at 11/18/2012 8:34:00 AM EST]
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jacka123
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:07:12 AM

You liberals keep saying the election is over, but yet you want to keep talking about the election and Romney, lol. You know what, us conservatives no longer care about Romney, so why do you guys, lol?
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:09:42 AM

Romney is being 'whitewashed' by the GOP. See what I mean?
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:40:42 AM

"Next time he can flop over and win as a Democrat."

The gop doesn't want him. Why would the Democrats?
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07skydriver
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 4:17:55 PM

What did he expect? His own party didn't want him seven years ago. Next time he can flop over and win as a Democrat.
The GOP is dead - long live th USA.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 3:52:03 PM

Romney is still in denial. The comments he made this week prove it. Good to see some in the gop distancing themselves from this loser. Willard, please go quietly into the night.
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:57:39 PM

I'm proud of you cat and dissapointed in you maria.
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:47:39 PM

Norm, what is funny about maria is that if she saw me in person, 65 years old, smiling, wearing my Vietnam vet cap she no doubt would thank me for my service. Oh well.

Tim, "scandal, cover ups blah, blah, blah" all supported by allegations no doubt. Allegation ~ an assertion made with little or no proof. Considering your low opinion of the electoral college you must not be a history or civics teacher.
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EKEugene
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:29:42 PM


>> Obama has been tanking since then worse than a new car loses value as it drives off the lot. <<

Perhaps that's the script in the Fox Noise/CEC bubble but out here in the real world the opposite is true:

>> A USA Today/Gallup survey released on Friday (that's yesterday) showed Obama and his party drawing goodwill from much of the country in the wake of their triumph at the ballot box last week. Fifty-eight percent of Americans have a favorable view of the president — up 3 points from the USA Today/Gallup poll conducted right before the election. It’s also his highest favorability rating in the poll since July of 2009.

The public’s view of Democrats is also positive in the wake of a largely successful election for the party. Fifty-one percent of those surveyed have a favorable impression of the party, a 6-point bump since August and a more impressive showing than the 43 percent who have a favorable view of the Republican Party. << [source: tinyurl .com/cx3bp2o]


>>Scandal coverups <<
- don't seem to exist, although fantasies about them do. These were shot down, also yesterday.

>> resigning appointees <<
- take place after every election whether an incumbent is re-elected or not. You sign on for the term.

>> stock market tanking <<
- cannot be discerned from a week's watch, and is irrelevant anyway.

>> layoffs announced <<
- are the corporate equivalent of state seceession petitions-- a lot of grandstanding to make a political point that their corporate guy didn't win so they wanna take their ball and go home. Snif.

... any more fantasies? There is actual life outside the CEC bubble you know. Sooner or later you gotta come out.


>> No amount of sour grapes will hide the fact that the GOP base (and too many are really base) is growing smaller and smaller and the longer they avoid mixing a little crow with their traditional apple pie will mean the longer it takes them to partake of the fruits of victory on a national scale! <<

Grocerially put, but a peach of a point. And this trend is elaborated in the Gallup poll linked above. Now how long will it take the RP to apple-ly it?


Hey, I didn't get my Obama gift either. It's ironic to hear this Santa fantasy from Mitt Romney, who spent months offering gifts of tax breaks to the rich and anthropomorphism to corporations...


[Edited by: EKEugene at 11/17/2012 1:36:21 PM EST]
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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 12:48:40 PM

"And what further damage is possible in the next four?"

For the GOP, Romney has given Democrats the greatest "Gift".

I'm still waiting for my gift from Obama.

Does the GOP yet realize, that people have voted for Obama without being bribed?

Just because Trump thought a president would take his bribe and Romney worships the dirt this worm (Trump) crawls in, is no reason to think that he (Romney) lost because he is not as good as Trump in bribing blacks, women, Latinos and his other inferiors that the GOP talks down to and can't treat as equals.

No amount of sour grapes will hide the fact that the GOP base (and too many are really base) is growing smaller and smaller and the longer they avoid mixing a little crow with their traditional apple pie will mean the longer it takes them to partake of the fruits of victory on a national scale!


To continue the analogy, most of the people who are part of the newer demographics are vastly fed up with the 21st Century GOP and their poison tea.





[Edited by: Passer at 11/17/2012 12:51:58 PM EST]
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 12:05:26 AM

True on the electoral college, RNorm. It got Obama elected, but is otherwise pretty meaningless beyong November 7th when you are talking about public opinion and perception. Obama has been tanking since then worse than a new car loses value as it drives off the lot. Scandal coverups, resigning appointees, stock market tanking, layoffs announced. What has four years wrought? And what further damage is possible in the next four?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 11:26:38 PM

"330,000 votes in four states is definitely not a landslide."


I believe that the margin of victory in the popular vote was over 3 Million....not to mention that 332 to 206 in the electoral college IS a landslide...

Again, your side LOST. Get over it and figure out how you need to change and do that rather than continually whining and making excuses for losing.

Sheesh.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 7:22:29 PM

330,000 votes in four states is definitely not a landslide.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 7:19:58 PM

An apology received as the result of a request or a demand is worthless. Best to write the comment off but tuck it away for future reference.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 11/13/2012 7:20:22 PM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 5:40:13 PM

Go, I didn't expect to see an apology from her either, but I will keep this in mind the next time she wants someone else to apologize when they are wrong.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:03:32 PM

Tim, a 5th tour is why we have so many cases of PTSD among our returning combat vets. "gocatgo comments" in no way gave her reason to believe I would was a Romney like draft dodger. "I'm wondering if there might be Iraqi wmd in Syria". I've heard that conspiracy theory too.

Maria, I don't expect an apology from you but you may want to use better judgement before you make assumptions.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 2:38:50 PM

"I guess Mitt wasn't the only one shellshocked... "

Not by a longshot! It's the entire sub-culture which has been propping each other up and patting each other on the back for some time now. But they shouldn't despair, for come the next mid-term elections in 2014 I expect the Reds to regain more seats in Congress. Too many of the Blues only vote in presidential elections.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 7:48:25 AM

I guess Mitt wasn't the only one shellshocked...
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EKEugene
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 1:31:03 PM


I understand that she's wrong. The point is, when a thread leaves its own topic and becomes a petty exchange about whether two third parties need to apologize for some personal exchange downthread, then it's off track, non productive and a drag for the rest of us to read.

The point's been made; it doesn't need to be hammered upon. Let the parties involved resolve it among themselves.

(/offtopic)
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:47:31 PM

"In her defense, maria based her comment on gocatgo's comments, not anything he stated about his service after the fact. "


And in Gocat's defense, most long-time posters already knew of Gocat's service as its been mentioned several times over the years; long before this thread.

So she was way off from the get-go.


PS: Sluggo, I know she's your girl; but this time, your girl is just wrong.

[Edited by: RNorm at 11/12/2012 12:48:50 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:44:42 PM

Thank you for your service, gocatgo. My nephew ships out right after Thanksgiving for his 5th tour [2 Iraq, 3rd in Afghanistan]. He was on guard duty on the embassy in Kabul when a rocket was fired at it. Fortunately, it overshot and exploded in the field next door. Marine EF.

In her defense, maria based her comment on gocatgo's comments, not anything he stated about his service after the fact. Her comment about being left behind is certainly valid.

I'm wondering if there might be Iraqi WMDs in Syria now?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:40:44 PM

Not piling on, just noticing that Maria is quick to blast people and slow to apologize and has a history of "not seeing posts", which is the reason so many pointed it out to her.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:29:25 PM

gocat, well said!

Maria?
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:26:40 PM


OK guys, let's not pile on. The point was made, I'm sure Maria can see it.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:14:17 PM

"Thank you for your complete lack of sensitivity on Veterans Day. You probably never served or you would not talk like you do."


Maria, you are wrong once again.

The honorable thing to do would be to apologize to Gocat and to thank him for his service to the country...
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 12:01:34 PM

Thank you for your service, gocatgo!

mexicomaria,
Do you have something to say to gocatgo?

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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 10:53:59 AM

mex, "never served". I enlisted in the Army in 1965 at age 18, did a tour of duty in Vietnam, 6 months after I returned to the States, I was then sent to Germany and returned home in 1968. "Insensibility", I spent the holiday remembering my friends that were killed in 1966 and those that I served with. Most everyday is Veteran's Day for me. I have a clear understanding of war and unnecessary death. I also know that 4,257 soldiers were killed in Iraq in the hunt for wmd that were NOT found After the invasion. No one was held accountable for that error in judgement or the CIA data that was skewed. Yet cons like you are outraged about 4 deaths in Benghazi. Do the math.

As for the Benghazi investigation, I prefer a trial before the hanging. I could be wrong but that may be mentioned somewhere in the Constitution.
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 7:12:09 AM

Romney should be shellshocked. 332 electoral votes is a landslide.

"I am now predicting a 330 vote electoral landslide (for Mitt Romney)." --Larry Kudlow

"I'm projecting Minnesota to go for Romney (in a 321-217 landslide)." --George Will

"We're going to win by a landslide... my own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." --Dick Morris
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Hiram 615
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 7:03:23 AM

333 electoral votes to 206 for Romney. 62,085,892 MILLION popular votes to Romney's 58,777,012 MILLION.

Ironically Romney got 47.9% popular votes to the President's 50.6%. Romney.....Mr. 47%.
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 8:48:30 PM

He'll be better after a months vacation in the Caymans.
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 7:41:04 PM

Election night social media statistics:

Obama
Twitter followers - 22,112,160
Facebook likes - 32,313,965

Romney
Twitter followers - 1,760,338
Facebook likes - 12,135,972

On Saturday, the Daily Dot reported that Mitt Romney was losing Facebook friends at an incredible pace. Since election night, 86,337 people have 'un-liked' Romney's page — that's an 'un-like' rate of almost 800 an hour.
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