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101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 12:56:57 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Hispanic group demands national amnesty for 11 million ILLEGALS >>Hispanic amnesty activists are expanding their goals beyond the so-called “DREAM Act” youth amnesty, towards a national amnesty for roughly 11 million Hispanic illegals. President Barack Obama and Congress “need to come together to deliver change on immigration policy, and by that we mean … a roadmap to citizenship for our parents and communities,” said Cristina Jimenez, direct of an advocacy group, United We Dream . . . The amnesty goal is supported by many progressive groups, in part, because most Hispanics prefer generous welfare policies, and so usually vote for Democratic candidates. In contrast, many Republican advocates and legislators favor high-skill immigration, partly because high-skilled workers spur the economy and lower unemployment.<<

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Hispanic group demands national amnesty for 11 million ILLEGALS

>>Hispanic amnesty activists are expanding their goals beyond the so-called “DREAM Act” youth amnesty, towards a national amnesty for roughly 11 million Hispanic illegals.

President Barack Obama and Congress “need to come together to deliver change on immigration policy, and by that we mean … a roadmap to citizenship for our parents and communities,” said Cristina Jimenez, direct of an advocacy group, United We Dream . . .

The amnesty goal is supported by many progressive groups, in part, because most Hispanics prefer generous welfare policies, and so usually vote for Democratic candidates.

In contrast, many Republican advocates and legislators favor high-skill immigration, partly because high-skilled workers spur the economy and lower unemployment.<<

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kiatoindos All-Star Author Chicago Posts:879 Points:108,830 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: May 31, 2013 10:24:15 PM Ignore kiatoindos Report Abuse We're a sanctuary city lovin it
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 31, 2013 9:29:08 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse So, kiatoindos, it has spread all the way to Chicago?
kiatoindos All-Star Author Chicago Posts:879 Points:108,830 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: May 31, 2013 9:11:14 PM Ignore kiatoindos Report Abuse If they want to be Americans try flying our flag speak our language instead I keep seeing Mexican flags and hearing Spanish!
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 31, 2013 8:51:03 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse If immigration laws were enforced, that is potentially 11 million votes less in the next national election. But then how would we know how many? Our government refuses to count how many ILLEGAL aliens are in this country.
kiatoindos All-Star Author Chicago Posts:879 Points:108,830 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: May 28, 2013 12:43:19 PM Ignore kiatoindos Report Abuse Undocumented democrats!
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 27, 2013 1:52:21 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens will be used to try to distract people from Obama's scandals. So far it is working for the 46%, or low information citizens.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:00:27 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse The group of 8 bill will never pass because the democrats refuse to include border enforcement.
noseatbelt Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,763 Points:207,330 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 2:42:16 PM Ignore noseatbelt Report Abuse I wonder, if obama would still push for immigration reform, if he didn't think it will favor democrats?
I75at7AM Champion Author Dayton Posts:66,946 Points:2,461,145 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 9:53:15 AM Ignore I75at7AM Report Abuse Yes, Popcorn, you missed something - the part where many "leaders" of our nation lost their spines just before they lost their minds!
PopcornPirate Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,979 Points:1,187,335 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 9:17:36 AM Ignore PopcornPirate Report Abuse So let me get this straight???? A group of people that came ( Snuck in ) here illegally want you to appease them by letting them stay with no recourse & all the benefits that the people that came here legally get??? Did I miss something here?
mswiggy Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,297 Points:401,415 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 5:51:40 PM Ignore mswiggy Report Abuse There is a reason we have immigration laws --------------- Its a shame they r not enforced- thats the change we need when it comes to immigration and illegals
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 5:31:17 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Probationary legal status = amnesty. There is a reason we have immigration laws. Any person in this world should not be allowed to ILLEGALLY cross our borders and be rewarded and given amnesty ahead of those that are legally waiting in line to live and work here. [Edited by: 101Speedster at 4/1/2013 5:33:43 PM EST]
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 2:33:40 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse If amnesty is given, ILLEGALS will be put in front of the line ahead of those that are following our immigration laws.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 15, 2013 8:51:46 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Obama floats ambitious immigration bill, stops short of simple ‘amnesty’ promise >>President Barack Obama will soon push for a massive change to U.S. immigration law that would provide a kind of conditional amnesty for roughly 11 million illegal immigrants, import more unskilled and skilled workers, and speed up visas for relatives of new arrivals. (Speed up visas for relatives of new arrivals?) But the White House argues that the ambitious legislation would penalize illegal immigrants seeking legal status. (Obama is criticizing his own proposal?) Obama’s bill was sketched out in a Jan. 12 leak to The New York Times, and it won immediate plaudits from the National Council of La Raza, a major Hispanic lobby group . . .<< (La Raza is more than a lobby group. Just think if whites, for example, had a group called "The Race.")
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 11:28:44 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Watch this video and see part of the reason why Los Angeles and California are in bad shape. LA Mayor pushes President to move on immigration Democratic Mayor of Los Angeles describes what he thinks immigration reform needs to include. (I don't think Obama is going to let this guy any where near him.)
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:27:52 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse >>This is likely to happen as the mass deportation of 11-20 million illegal immigrants is impractical. It should not happen until the U.S.- Mexico Border is secured.<< Like I have said many times before, deportation is not necessary except for those that do not have jobs anyway. Enforce our nation's laws against employers that hire ILLEGAL aliens. The problem will handle itself.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 6:01:05 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse With legal amnesty, the paperwork alone would be impossible to accomplish. What we are dealing with now is our government allowing amnesty by way of ignoring the immigration laws of the United States of America.
greentre All-Star Author Pensacola Posts:830 Points:290,460 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 1:09:18 PM Ignore greentre Report Abuse These 'voters' will get it. "roughly 11 million Hispanic illegals"
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,898 Points:749,380 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 12:42:00 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse This is likely to happen as the mass deportation of 11-20 million illegal immigrants is impractical. It should not happen until the U.S.- Mexico Border is secured.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 11:07:32 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse How many of your tax dollars are you willing to spend to support amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens?
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 4:03:32 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Yes, street, they get driver's licenses and they get to vote also.
streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 9:45:28 PM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse speedy illegals in LA get unemployment? I though they stayed off the books.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 6:34:34 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse I can't wait for the ILLEGALS in Los Angeles to demand that their unemployment benefits get extended.
streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 11:52:26 PM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse come on speedy they are just hard working people that want a chance at the american dream.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 2:51:44 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse After we go off the fiscal cliff, can the United States of America's taxpayers afford to support 11 million+ ILLEGAL aliens?
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 2:19:28 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse >>However, it is "highly unlikely" that we will ever be able to hunt down and ship back the illegals to wherever in the world they come from<< You don't have to. Enforce immigration laws and fine/jail employers that hire ILLEGAL aliens. Also, do not give ILLEGAL aliens government handouts. I heard on the radio a couple of days ago that the Los Angeles County Sheriff is no longer going to turn "minor criminals" that happen to be ILLEGAL aliens over to the INS. After all, they haven't killed anyone yet -- that we know of. >>As to illegal alien children, I'm not opposed to the Dream Act.<< We need to change the 14th Ammendment. I was watching the news a couple of days ago. They were showing a house somewhere near Los Angeles where women that are about 8 months pregnant are sent to on "vacation" from China. It just so happens that when their children are born they become United States citizens. >>And remember - in Mexico, it is a felony to sneak over the border. It is only a misdemenaor here in the US. And when we tried to make it a felony, Mexico vigorously objected.<< Mexico is not the only foreign country that is suing us for not doing everything that we can for their citizens.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,845 Points:2,929,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:29:36 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Now, we have somewhere between 11 and 30 million people who are illegal aliens here in the US. (I will use the term "illegal" as they are here illegally. They ought to be deamonized by this, as they broke the law coming here, and continue to break our laws by staying here. They're not just "undocumented", they are here illegally and that needs to be emphasized.) However, it is "highly unlikely" that we will ever be able to hunt down and ship back the illegals to wherever in the world they come from (and notice that I didn't single out any nationality nor race, nor continent). So, in a practical sense, what we ought to do is 1) give the illegals a form of permanent residency that lasts for something like 5 years. After which, they can prove the have work and go for some kind of permanent residency - or they can go back to where they come from. IF someone is illegal and goes throught he process, if they can prove they are an asset to the US, and we need them here, let them apply for citizenship. As to illegal alien children, I'm not opposed to the Dream Act. However, again, I want to see them do some sort of public service to earn their right to citizenship, but they should have a somewhat easier path. Now, as to what to do next, I wonder? Is this same hispanic group going to call for another amnisty a year or 5 years later? And what do they propose to end the illegal problem here on a go-forward basis? I say, grant some kind of status to the ones who are already here. But then VIGOROUSLY enforce the laws, and VIGOROUSLY enforce our borders. What is this group's solution to the illegal problem? Making anyone who walks over our border as legal isn't a useful solution. And remember - in Mexico, it is a felony to sneak over the border. It is only a misdemenaor here in the US. And when we tried to make it a felony, Mexico vigorously objected. Proving that they are hypocrites.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 12:33:50 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Hate to disagree with you, johnnyg, but there was never an agreement agreed on in the House and/or Senate. There was no amnesty given -- officially. This country has turned its back on the issue though. The partnership between McCain and Kennedy, BTW, was one of the reasons that I just could not vote for McCain four years ago.
streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 12:21:14 AM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse Eventually they will become legal, although there is plenty of work to do to get the criminal ones deported first. The rest i am sure both parties want to keep here for cheap labor. We do need those folks to work at harvest time.
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,434 Points:672,425 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 10:12:04 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse This is insane. If we know they are illegal why legitimize them with a license. If they are here illegally and we know it SEND THEM HOME!!!!!!!!! - Illinois Democrats propose driver's licenses for illegal immigrants
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,434 Points:672,425 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 7:03:46 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse 101 Speedester; “””There has not been any amnesty since the one during Ronald Reagan's term. I hope that we learn from history.”” Although it was not called an “Amnesty” it amounted to the same thing. “”The Bush administration and a bipartisan group of senators reached agreement yesterday on a sprawling overhaul of the nation's immigration laws that would bring an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants out of society's shadows while stiffening border protections and cracking down on employers of undocumented workers. “” - This is the Washington Post’s take on it. - What I find odd is that even the Huffington Post seems to be against amnesty and for many of the same reasons I am. I think this is the first time I have to say I agree with that rag. - -
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 4:20:27 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Will our government do background checks on these 10 to 20 million ILLEGALS in our country? How many of them are from the Middle East?
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 4:20:27 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Will our government do background checks on these 10 to 20 million ILLEGALS in our country? How many of them are from the Middle East?
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:13:51 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse There are reasons that the United States has immigration laws. >>"Republicans are anti-immigration"<< Republicans are for legal immigration. Not sure who made the quote above, but I wonder if they know why immigration laws are important to a nation?
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:11:56 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse johnny, There has not been any amnesty since the one during Ronald Reagan's term. I hope that we learn from history.
e_jeepin Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,876 Points:123,170 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:43:52 PM Ignore e_jeepin Report Abuse I think new talking points propaganda were released from the regime today. I heard it a couple times in different places and thought it was odd. "Republicans are anti-immigration" Huh? since when? They then cite Romney's self-deportation statement. yeah, they are at it again -- say anything! If you walked into our Country without first checking in at the door, you are not an immigrant. Once Democrats implement their open borders immigration policy, the flood gate will be released.
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,434 Points:672,425 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:11:38 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse >>Illegals that are here... There needs to be a PATH TO LEGALIZE them.<<The “PATH TO LEGALIZE them” is just one more amnesty. We have done that twice already. Regan did it and so did, I think it was Clinton but it could have been Bush one. Either way all it did was give us 11 million more illegals to deal with. The Illegals need to be sent home period~!!!!!!!!!
noseatbelt Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,763 Points:207,330 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:10:59 PM Ignore noseatbelt Report Abuse There needs to be a path to legalize them. There already is, but they chose not to take that path, send them all home, and tell them to go about coming to this country the right way.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 3:15:53 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse >>Illegals that are here... There needs to be a PATH TO LEGALIZE them.<< That puts ILLEGALS at the front of the line and rewards them for breaking our laws. That hurts those that are attempting to come into the United States by following our laws.
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,898 Points:749,380 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:55:29 AM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse NAFTA isn't working with Mexico. Close the border and THEN issue every illegal immigrant here a secure temporary visa/green card. They can then get in line RIGHT BEHIND everyone else who applied for citizenship legally. Unless, of course, they enlist in the military for three years as a path to citizenship. That has always been an option.
PopcornPirate Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,979 Points:1,187,335 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:48:52 AM Ignore PopcornPirate Report Abuse NO AMNISTY...! BUT I do believe the immigration laws in the US for people trying to LEGALLY become US citizens is Archaic & needs tweeking. ALSO Illegals that are here... There needs to be a PATH TO LEGALIZE them.
florida1541 Veteran Author Columbus Posts:399 Points:4,760 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:36:08 AM Ignore florida1541 Report Abuse they demand !! you own it !
florida1541 Veteran Author Columbus Posts:399 Points:4,760 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:35:24 AM Ignore florida1541 Report Abuse jd helm : thank you ! thank you ! thank you i could have not said it better !!!!
cbuck80 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,609 Points:421,570 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:19:48 AM Ignore cbuck80 Report Abuse If your illegal you can't demand anything
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,280,115 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:37:57 AM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse Hmmm, wonder why they would do that?
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,842 Points:2,742,420 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 11:36:31 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse >>Take an example from what Georgia did... Pass serious penalties for employers that hire illegal aliens including criminal penalties.<< We have done that, and many other similar propositions in California, but then the 9th Circus Court of Appeals just steps in and overturns everything.
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:15,826 Points:2,557,280 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:16:51 PM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse 101, "most hispanics prefer generous welfare policies". It is that attitude that sends hispanics running from the GOP into the open arms of the dem party. This same attitude about blacks has made them so distrustful of cons. I put the outrageous hispanic demands in the same category as the con secession demands. The difference of course is the secessionists lean toward treason all the while claiming to be patriots. They live among us.
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,280,115 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 9:13:15 AM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse Demand? Really? What right do illegals have to demand anything?
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,280,115 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 8:53:14 AM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse Bluebird, it was the young who voted overwhelmingly for Obama though.
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,967 Points:622,715 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 8:40:36 AM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse Take an example from what Georgia did... Pass serious penalties for employers that hire illegal aliens including criminal penalties. Then the illegals will do just what they did in Georgia... Run for the border! Sure our farmers were upset that their cheap labor was gone but it sure put a dent in the illegal alien population of Georgia. I think Mitt Romney called it SELF-DEPORTATION.