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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 12:56:57 PM

Hispanic group demands national amnesty for 11 million ILLEGALS

>>Hispanic amnesty activists are expanding their goals beyond the so-called “DREAM Act” youth amnesty, towards a national amnesty for roughly 11 million Hispanic illegals.

President Barack Obama and Congress “need to come together to deliver change on immigration policy, and by that we mean … a roadmap to citizenship for our parents and communities,” said Cristina Jimenez, direct of an advocacy group, United We Dream . . .

The amnesty goal is supported by many progressive groups, in part, because most Hispanics prefer generous welfare policies, and so usually vote for Democratic candidates.

In contrast, many Republican advocates and legislators favor high-skill immigration, partly because high-skilled workers spur the economy and lower unemployment.<<
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rjhaugh
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 8:38:04 AM

>>>>Did you notice that this is the next priority that Obama wants to work on? Namely, he wants to give amnesty to ILLEGAL aliens.<<<<

>>The Obamacare national exchange has been a disaster. So now the administration is pivoting quickly to change the subject to immigration reform.<<

>>By the way I watched Gloria Borger commenting about this on CNN this morning. Just like most in the media she repeatedly used the term "illegal immigrants" instead of "illegal aliens".<<

According to President Obama when he was pushing the ACA, illegal immigrants would not be allowed to use it (but there was no enforcement provisions). So now if he succeeds in getting amnesty for the illegal immigrants, they are then legally eligible to use the ACA thereby making the ACA a success.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2013 9:55:01 PM

The Republicans will never allow amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens to pass. Nor the Tea Party for that matter.

Let's just wait and see what happens after the midterm elections when people find out about Obamacare.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2013 8:27:52 AM

Speedy these policies are being pushed by both parties now what will you do?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 11:49:50 AM

If democrats keep pushing these liberal policies, the midterm elections are going to be very good for Republicans.

I wonder if the government will tell us how many ILLEGAL aliens are signed up for Obamacare? That is, of course, after they tell us how many citizens are signed up.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2013 8:44:50 AM

Immigration reform pitch gets aggressive
More of the same as I posted ten days ago.

I like tim's two-bus solution.
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Gidzmo
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2013 4:20:42 PM

CA already grants illegal immigrants drivers' licenses (as of 2015) and in-state tuition at the state university system.

I think the governor vetoed the bill that would have non-citizens on juries (although the legislature can override the veto).

Brown's all but declared CA a sanctuary state (LA and SF are already sanctuary cities).
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2013 2:44:06 PM

<<By the way I watched Gloria Borger commenting about this on CNN this morning. Just like most in the media she repeatedly used the term "illegal immigrants" instead of "illegal aliens".>>

That's terrible! Everyone knows you are supposed to call them "undocumented persons."
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therder
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2013 1:21:52 PM

>>Did you notice that this is the next priority that Obama wants to work on? Namely, he wants to give amnesty to ILLEGAL aliens.<<

The Obamacare national exchange has been a disaster. So now the administration is pivoting quickly to change the subject to immigration reform.

By the way I watched Gloria Borger commenting about this on CNN this morning. Just like most in the media she repeatedly used the term "illegal immigrants" instead of "illegal aliens".
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2013 12:32:32 AM

It has been done before and most likely will be done again.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2013 12:34:55 PM

I'm becoming convinced that it may not be cost effective to deport eleven million people. Simply register the first 11 million for a citizenship track in 15 years and close the border. Anyone caught in the U.S. without proper documentation after that is guilty of a federal felony.

Oh wait, NOW you say the number of illegals is actually closer to twenty million? Guess they'd want to get in line early and be in the accepted 11 million, huh?
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2013 12:31:01 PM

"The frustration, say immigration advocates, is reaching a fever pitch.

That is why, many say, recent weeks have seen activists use chains and pipes to tie themselves to the tires of buses that carry immigrants slated for deportation to court,..."

So have a second bus show up ten minutes after the first is due to leave. Load the detainees onto the second bus and leave. Who cares if they chained themselves to an empty bus; leave them there as you drive off laughing.
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2013 7:49:42 PM

Every one of these people should be deported forthwith. If they want to come back they can apply for it like decent law abiding people do.

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama will do everything he can to grant amnesty to all of them. His Presidency is the worst thing to ever happen to this country and at this point nothing he does should surprise any of us.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2013 6:58:21 PM

Did you notice that this is the next priority that Obama wants to work on? Namely, he wants to give amnesty to ILLEGAL aliens.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2013 12:48:00 PM

They're Not Going To Take It Anymore: New Generation Of Immigrant Advocates Take Radical Approach

"The frustration, say immigration advocates, is reaching a fever pitch.

That is why, many say, recent weeks have seen activists use chains and pipes to tie themselves to the tires of buses that carry immigrants slated for deportation to court,..."
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2013 7:32:24 PM

When are the border enforcement rules established in 1986 going to start?
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2013 8:55:00 AM

Close the Border 1st thing
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2013 6:41:54 PM

We already have an unofficial amnesty in this country. The politicians refuse to enforce this country's immigration laws.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2013 12:39:57 PM

Granting amnesty a few at a time only encourages more to come here illegally.

Nuts.
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 5:56:00 PM

new immigration laws
1. there will be no special bilingual laws in the schools.
2. all ballots will be in the nations language.
3. all government business will be conducted in our language.
4. all non residents will not have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
5. non citizens will never be able to hold political office.
6. foreigners will not be a burden to the tax payers. no welfare, food stamps, health care, or any other government assistance programs. any who who are a burden will be deported.
7. foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
8. if foreigners come here and buy land their options will be restricted. certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
9. foreigners may have no protests, no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad mouthing our president, or his policies, these will lead to deportation.
10. if you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation canbe arranged. all assets will be taken from you.

The above laws, are the current immigration maws of mexico.

This was given to me by my neighbor who is from mexico, he thinks the U.S. should have and enforce, the sae strict laws.
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 10:24:15 PM

We're a sanctuary city lovin it
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 9:29:08 PM

So, kiatoindos, it has spread all the way to Chicago?
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 9:11:14 PM

If they want to be Americans try flying our flag speak our language instead I keep seeing Mexican flags and hearing Spanish!
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 8:51:03 PM

If immigration laws were enforced, that is potentially 11 million votes less in the next national election. But then how would we know how many? Our government refuses to count how many ILLEGAL aliens are in this country.
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 12:43:19 PM

Undocumented democrats!
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 1:52:21 PM

Amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens will be used to try to distract people from Obama's scandals. So far it is working for the 46%, or low information citizens.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:00:27 AM

The group of 8 bill will never pass because the democrats refuse to include border enforcement.
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 2:42:16 PM

I wonder, if obama would still push for immigration reform, if he didn't think it will favor democrats?
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 9:53:15 AM

Yes, Popcorn, you missed something - the part where many "leaders" of our nation lost their spines just before they lost their minds!
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 9:17:36 AM

So let me get this straight????

A group of people that came ( Snuck in ) here illegally want you to appease them by letting them stay with no recourse & all the benefits that the people that came here legally get???

Did I miss something here?
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mswiggy
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 5:51:40 PM

There is a reason we have immigration laws
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Its a shame they r not enforced- thats the change we need when it comes to immigration and illegals
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 5:31:17 PM

Probationary legal status = amnesty.

There is a reason we have immigration laws. Any person in this world should not be allowed to ILLEGALLY cross our borders and be rewarded and given amnesty ahead of those that are legally waiting in line to live and work here.

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 4/1/2013 5:33:43 PM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 2:33:40 PM

If amnesty is given, ILLEGALS will be put in front of the line ahead of those that are following our immigration laws.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2013 8:51:46 AM

Obama floats ambitious immigration bill, stops short of simple ‘amnesty’ promise

>>President Barack Obama will soon push for a massive change to U.S. immigration law that would provide a kind of conditional amnesty for roughly 11 million illegal immigrants, import more unskilled and skilled workers, and speed up visas for relatives of new arrivals.

(Speed up visas for relatives of new arrivals?)

But the White House argues that the ambitious legislation would penalize illegal immigrants seeking legal status.

(Obama is criticizing his own proposal?)

Obama’s bill was sketched out in a Jan. 12 leak to The New York Times, and it won immediate plaudits from the National Council of La Raza, a major Hispanic lobby group . . .<<

(La Raza is more than a lobby group. Just think if whites, for example, had a group called "The Race.")
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 11:28:44 PM

Watch this video and see part of the reason why Los Angeles and California are in bad shape.

LA Mayor pushes President to move on immigration

Democratic Mayor of Los Angeles describes what he thinks immigration reform needs to include.

(I don't think Obama is going to let this guy any where near him.)
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:27:52 PM

>>This is likely to happen as the mass deportation of 11-20 million illegal immigrants is impractical. It should not happen until the U.S.- Mexico Border is secured.<<

Like I have said many times before, deportation is not necessary except for those that do not have jobs anyway. Enforce our nation's laws against employers that hire ILLEGAL aliens. The problem will handle itself.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 6:01:05 PM

With legal amnesty, the paperwork alone would be impossible to accomplish.

What we are dealing with now is our government allowing amnesty by way of ignoring the immigration laws of the United States of America.
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 1:09:18 PM

These 'voters' will get it. "roughly 11 million Hispanic illegals"
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 12:42:00 PM

This is likely to happen as the mass deportation of 11-20 million illegal immigrants is impractical. It should not happen until the U.S.- Mexico Border is secured.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 11:07:32 AM

How many of your tax dollars are you willing to spend to support amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 4:03:32 PM

Yes, street, they get driver's licenses and they get to vote also.
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 9:45:28 PM

speedy illegals in LA get unemployment? I though they stayed off the books.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 6:34:34 PM

I can't wait for the ILLEGALS in Los Angeles to demand that their unemployment benefits get extended.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 11:52:26 PM

come on speedy they are just hard working people that want a chance at the american dream.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 2:51:44 AM

After we go off the fiscal cliff, can the United States of America's taxpayers afford to support 11 million+ ILLEGAL aliens?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 2:19:28 PM

>>However, it is "highly unlikely" that we will ever be able to hunt down and ship back the illegals to wherever in the world they come from<<

You don't have to. Enforce immigration laws and fine/jail employers that hire ILLEGAL aliens. Also, do not give ILLEGAL aliens government handouts. I heard on the radio a couple of days ago that the Los Angeles County Sheriff is no longer going to turn "minor criminals" that happen to be ILLEGAL aliens over to the INS. After all, they haven't killed anyone yet -- that we know of.

>>As to illegal alien children, I'm not opposed to the Dream Act.<<

We need to change the 14th Ammendment. I was watching the news a couple of days ago. They were showing a house somewhere near Los Angeles where women that are about 8 months pregnant are sent to on "vacation" from China. It just so happens that when their children are born they become United States citizens.

>>And remember - in Mexico, it is a felony to sneak over the border. It is only a misdemenaor here in the US. And when we tried to make it a felony, Mexico vigorously objected.<<

Mexico is not the only foreign country that is suing us for not doing everything that we can for their citizens.
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:29:36 PM

Now, we have somewhere between 11 and 30 million people who are illegal aliens here in the US. (I will use the term "illegal" as they are here illegally. They ought to be deamonized by this, as they broke the law coming here, and continue to break our laws by staying here. They're not just "undocumented", they are here illegally and that needs to be emphasized.)

However, it is "highly unlikely" that we will ever be able to hunt down and ship back the illegals to wherever in the world they come from (and notice that I didn't single out any nationality nor race, nor continent). So, in a practical sense, what we ought to do is 1) give the illegals a form of permanent residency that lasts for something like 5 years. After which, they can prove the have work and go for some kind of permanent residency - or they can go back to where they come from. IF someone is illegal and goes throught he process, if they can prove they are an asset to the US, and we need them here, let them apply for citizenship.

As to illegal alien children, I'm not opposed to the Dream Act. However, again, I want to see them do some sort of public service to earn their right to citizenship, but they should have a somewhat easier path.

Now, as to what to do next, I wonder? Is this same hispanic group going to call for another amnisty a year or 5 years later? And what do they propose to end the illegal problem here on a go-forward basis? I say, grant some kind of status to the ones who are already here. But then VIGOROUSLY enforce the laws, and VIGOROUSLY enforce our borders. What is this group's solution to the illegal problem? Making anyone who walks over our border as legal isn't a useful solution.

And remember - in Mexico, it is a felony to sneak over the border. It is only a misdemenaor here in the US. And when we tried to make it a felony, Mexico vigorously objected. Proving that they are hypocrites.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 12:33:50 AM

Hate to disagree with you, johnnyg, but there was never an agreement agreed on in the House and/or Senate. There was no amnesty given -- officially. This country has turned its back on the issue though.

The partnership between McCain and Kennedy, BTW, was one of the reasons that I just could not vote for McCain four years ago.

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 12:21:14 AM

Eventually they will become legal, although there is plenty of work to do to get the criminal ones deported first. The rest i am sure both parties want to keep here for cheap labor.
We do need those folks to work at harvest time.
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 10:12:04 PM

This is insane. If we know they are illegal why legitimize them with a license. If they are here illegally and we know it SEND THEM HOME!!!!!!!!!
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Illinois Democrats propose driver's licenses for illegal immigrants
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 7:03:46 PM

101 Speedester; “””There has not been any amnesty since the one during Ronald Reagan's term. I hope that we learn from history.””

Although it was not called an “Amnesty” it amounted to the same thing.

“”The Bush administration and a bipartisan group of senators reached agreement yesterday on a sprawling overhaul of the nation's immigration laws that would bring an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants out of society's shadows while stiffening border protections and cracking down on employers of undocumented workers. “”
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This is the Washington Post’s take on it.
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What I find odd is that even the Huffington Post seems to be against amnesty and for many of the same reasons I am. I think this is the first time I have to say I agree with that rag.
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