jacka123

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 4:51:44 PM
I'd say right now, they don't have a national leader, but things can change a lot in 2 years. I think the shining star in the Republican party is Marco Rubio, so it could very well be him. I think that Obama proved one thing, likeability is probably the #1 most important thing, and Rubio has the most likeability.
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I75at7AM

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 3:30:40 PM
Maybe not of national stature yet, but making the right moves and saying all the right things in this speech, the Cuban-American Senator from a large sunbelt state could be the candidate the Republicans are looking for. Marco Rubio? No, it's Ted Cruz!
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cbuck80

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:52:45 AM
Marco Rubio the buck will stop at him.
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gocatgo

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:51:19 AM
Norm, "sniveling to Rushbo", cons may see that as paying homage.
Tes, "Rush divides" which may explain a lot of the gridlock in Congress.
EKE, "Rush has influence", Amen.
rgp, Gov Christie "would be a formidable candidate" and the more he leans to the center the more dems he will bring to his side.
In the right situation I could vote for the Big guy from NJ in 2016. Gov Christie is the only con in the same weight class as Rush. In a policy/agenda fight, my money would be on Christie. By working with Obama during Sandy I saw Gov Christie as a man who put the best interests of the people ahead of party politics.
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rgpiccone

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 8:50:57 PM
If Chris Christie can keep his popularity high in NJ, which is a very blue state, he would be a formidable presidential candidate in 2016.
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Teslukbla

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 7:40:41 PM
I think it really pissed Christie off when he was attacked by members of the Romney campaign and some of those on the right for working with Obama to deal with the hurricane devastation in New Jersey. Christie gave me the impression that he was going to stand his ground.
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RNorm

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 7:32:10 PM
"A true leader will stand up to someone like Rush who is attacking and dividing the party. Chris Christie seems to be confident and outspoken when needed. Christie could be the one who someday pushes Rush back, and keeps pushing. " I agree; lets hope you're right.
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Teslukbla

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 7:23:29 PM
"I'm just baffled as to why so many prominent republicans are so afraid of Rushbo."
A true leader will stand up to someone like Rush who is attacking and dividing the party. Chris Christie seems to be confident and outspoken when needed. Christie could be the one who someday pushes Rush back, and keeps pushing.
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RNorm

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 7:13:05 PM
"A true leader should unite and lead a party to victory. Rush divides, not unites the Republican party. And Rush did not lead Romney or McCain to victories. Instead, Rush weakened Romney and McCain by being too critical of Romney and McCain for not being pure enough conservatives. " Oh, I agree with you completely, my friend. I'm just baffled as to why so many prominent republicans are so afraid of Rushbo.
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Teslukbla

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 6:57:56 PM
A true leader should unite and lead a party to victory. Rush divides, not unites the Republican party. And Rush did not lead Romney or McCain to victories. Instead, Rush weakened Romney and McCain by being too critical of Romney and McCain for not being pure enough conservatives.
[Edited by: Teslukbla at 11/24/2012 6:59:46 PM EST]
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RNorm

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 5:34:08 PM
" If he was going to be seriously considered and recognized as the party leader, it would have been years ago. " Whether he is a national leader of the GOP or no, I do know that whenever a leading republican crosses Rushbo or calls him out, that republican is ALWAYS the one that does an about face and goes sniveling to Rushbo with an apology. So why are so many republicans afraid of Rushbo if he's not a leader in their party??
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MahopacJack

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New York
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 3:01:00 PM
EKEugene, >>It was. Just read his echoes all over this forum. They're not new.<< *** It really depends upon what each of us considers to be a leader. For me, leaders never change their principles even when facing huge numbers that disagree with what a leader believes to be the right path. It is almost as if when most needed, the leader appears. And not a moment sooner.
Too many Republican pundits (Limbaugh, Hannity, Gallagher, etc.) focused on running Obama out of office and failed to get the right person nominated.
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MahopacJack

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New York
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 5:09:38 PM
It's the same one as the Democrats, political contributions. Neither party has any scruples and will vote on legislation which ever way their party bosses tell them. There are very few leaders and the only exceptions I can think of are Ron Paul (leaves at the end of this Congress), Jason Chaffetz (Utah), Jim DeMint (South Carolina) and Gary Johnson (former Governor of New Mexico who the Republican Elitists prohibited from debating in the Republican Primary Debates.). I find it particularly difficult to pick as many from the other side of the aisle. The only one that comes to mind is Dennis Kusinich from Ohio.
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Michiganian

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 4:16:33 PM
If the Republican Party was smart, they would send Rush on a one way trip to Costa Rica.
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Teslukbla

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 2:36:00 PM
" Tes, you forgot Rush."
Some consider Rush to be a leader. I see Rush as an entertainer who has been nationally known since the 1980s. If he was going to be seriously considered and recognized as the party leader, it would have been years ago.
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gocatgo

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:40:02 AM
Tes, you forgot Rush.
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Hiram 615

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 10:08:14 PM
"Republicans have many national leaders",
...but less than they had Nov 5th. :)
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BlackGumTree

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 9:41:12 PM
Yes, Republicans have many national leaders. Those who don't know who they are have a problem.
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gvan

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:54:16 PM
If I recall correctly, Rubio was going to Iowa this week.
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streetrider

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Gary
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:49:13 PM
Rush is in defense mode right now.
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EKEugene

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 9:24:17 PM
Until someone with some sanity takes control it defaults to Rush Limbaugh. And we just saw how well that worked out...
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RNorm

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 8:58:11 AM
"And this is only my opinion, but I think Chris Christie is toast after the way he handled the hurricane." Toast because he did his job; i.e., putting the people of his state before politics? Man some of you GOPers are really out there.
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Teslukbla

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 8:48:30 AM
I agree that either Rubio or Christie needs to attempt to become the national leader. Both are young and charismatic. It is unlikely that the public would link Rubio or Christie to the Bush Administration.
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btc1

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 2:53:04 PM
Who is the most "affable" Republican? Chris Christie. There you go. He could draw independents. But, that is not how Conservatives think. They must have the most right wing crazy they can find.
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EKEugene

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 2:47:51 PM
Big Bird!
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Teslukbla

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 2:25:50 PM
"No, and after Romney & the Republican Party sold Minnesota down the river the party is dead too."
What did Romney and the party allegedly do to sell Minnesota down the river?
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e_jeepin

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 11:17:03 AM
None of the above. Rubio will lose re-election to some no-name and Christie wont make it either. This is the new state of politics -- just vote Democrat because "they understand me better" (who cares if they accomplish anything)
The appalling trend is clear. Jesse Jackson Jr was re-elected by a 90% margin and he is unconscious somewhere -- nobody really knows exactly. he didn't campaign, and vanished. They don't care if he even shows up to work again -- 90% vote earned.
This has gone on for decades in the city of Detroit which is now two-thirds burned to the ground and bankrupt (again)
The Detroit syndrome has now gone nationwide. At least the Detroit elected officials understand the residents of Detroit better than anyone -- so they got that going for them.
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md11capt

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Denver
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 10:22:18 AM
Chris Christie.
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cbuck80

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 10:10:04 AM
Marco Rubio is the only one they can lean on now that will move them forward.
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jacka123

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 10:04:03 AM
I think, without a doubt, the shining star for the Republicans, will be Marco Rubio of Florida. If you don't know him, you should get to know him. And this is only my opinion, but I think Chris Christie is toast after the way he handled the hurricane. He could only win now, if he switches to democrat. I'm not saying it should be that way, but I am saying, I think that's what will happen.
[Edited by: jacka123 at 11/7/2012 10:10:19 AM EST]
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streetrider

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Gary
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 9:49:31 AM
As an Independent I see no republican as a viable candidate as long as the economy continues to struggle.
When my die hard republican friends son who is not smart enough to go onto higher education has to stay on daddies pocket book for a living and health care. The republicans loose voters.
When his mother has cancer and her husbands health provider no longer covers her do to retirement. You have just lost the ability to sell snake oil.
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PopcornPirate

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 9:42:55 AM
I see Chris Christie as a MAJOR contender in 2016.
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ministorage

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 9:24:48 AM
The NeoCon New World Order globalists already have Jeb Bush in their sites.
Globalists have taken over the Republican Party, just as they have infiltrated the Democratic Party. Romney was an outsider, and that was a tougher hill to climb than staying with Obama. Romney was being courted heavily by NeoCons who would have made up his Cabinet.
The Council on Foreign Relations has a much easier, more pliable puppet in Obama.
God Help US.
[Edited by: ministorage at 11/7/2012 9:26:41 AM EST]
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dakine

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 9:14:43 AM
I see no leadership.
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Jorgie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 9:12:09 AM
No, and after Romney & the Republican Party sold Minnesota down the river the party is dead too.
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Michiganian

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 9:09:52 AM
Marco Rubio?
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airfresh

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 8:43:50 AM
It will likely come from the likes of Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan or... someone protect the children from the Halloween frights... Jeb Bush.
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