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gocatgo

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 12:44:39 AM

Where did Mitt Romney go wrong?

My list includes but is not limited to:
Corporations are people too.
His 47% comments moment of honesty caught on tape.
His firm stance and protection of the wealthy 1%.
Pretending to be moderate but saying he was a severe conservative.
His general belief in his entitlement to be President.
He was no George Romney.

Where do you think Mitt went wrong?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2014 11:15:01 AM

"On the 47% comment, he should have clarified that this was for Federal income taxes, not all taxes."

Regardless, that would still unfairly characterize military personal and retirees in the negative light he was casting, which is not a small number of people...
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Grizdad
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2014 9:07:23 AM

Didn't stand up to that bafoon Crowley during the debate. Needed to call it like it was instead of trying to be nice.

Too late now. What difference does it make?
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nraacct
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 4:36:39 PM

On the 47% comment, he should have clarified that this was for Federal income taxes, not all taxes.
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 10:43:33 AM

He should have gone for that traitor's jugular when he had the chance during the debates. But because of his Faith and belief in mankind he deferred.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 9:17:31 AM

AC, "And the "corps are people too" is technically correct, though I think people didn't understand it as such."

It is hard to understand, AC, because for legal protection and tax purposes, corporations are created as separate entities from the stockholders. How do they get to have it both ways?

The Founding Fathers, the ones who created the US Constitution were in great fear of corporations powers. Specifically East India Tea, as an example, taking advantage of governmental rule over the individual, the person.

[Edited by: btc1 at 7/6/2014 9:18:32 AM EST]
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 8:12:21 AM

I agree the 47% could have been better phrased. And the "corps are people too" is technically correct, though I think people didn't understand it as such.

I think Mitt's image didn't connect well with people. But still, he only lost by, what? 4 or 5%? It wasn't a landslide by any stretch.

[Edited by: AC-302 at 7/6/2014 8:13:59 AM EST]
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 1:45:04 AM

It is for sure that you can't blame the stock market number of 17,000 on mitt,or the latest 6.1% unemployment number, or the latest new job figures of over 200,000.
Somebody is messing up real good ;)
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NickHammer
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:05:47 AM

>>I myself would not say he went wrong. I think when an incumbent President has four years to buy absolutely everyone's vote that there is little you can do to fight that.<<

Welcome to Sore-Loserville.

>>Simple: He didn't play Santa Claus well enough, and his 47% number was off by a few. Turns out it was 51%.<<

...followed by Liarville.
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Happyherman
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:44:11 PM

He decided to run without a plan.
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07skydriver
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:03:51 PM

I hope you are correct sir. The US needs an effective president that will do what's best for average americans. Something we have been lacking for decades.
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:25:59 PM

07skydriver, >>I can't wait to see how they reinvent themselves in 2016. Gotta git them thar Lo'tinos somehow.<<
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Maybe you won't have to wait as we are on the road to financial perdition and the Democrats are stonewalling all efforts to correct things. Republicans, on the other hand, make things worse by caving into the demands of the socialists who are in control.

This may pave the way for another political party or two.
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07skydriver
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:59:40 PM

His own party didn't want him four years earlier. Now all of the sudden he's the answer to all the problems caused by the last republican tool.
Voters remember.
I can't wait to see how they reinvent themselves in 2016. Gotta git them thar Lo'tinos somehow.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 6:28:51 PM

Perhaps he should not have said he would cut spending....everyone knows that everyone wants their entitlements.

[L=http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/text deleted Dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States[/L]Govt dependents outnumber those with private sector jobs in 11 states.

Where's the money?


[Edited by: mexicomaria at 2/8/2013 6:33:09 PM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 6:00:12 PM

Simple: He didn't play Santa Claus well enough, and his 47% number was off by a few. Turns out it was 51%.


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 2/8/2013 6:04:31 PM EST]
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 5:33:15 PM

He let greed and power get the better of his morals. Fortunately, the majority of the nation saw through his facade.
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 4:50:34 PM

he wasn't aggressive enough and he couldn't appeal enough to the low information voter
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 3:57:10 PM

I myself would not say he went wrong. I think when an incumbent President has four years to buy absolutely everyone's vote that there is little you can do to fight that.

Perhaps he should have gotten the NRA to show up at voting booths like the Black Panthers did for Obama.

Perhaps he should have pulled out the "hate the rich" card, and gave away all his money to the the underprivileged. WE all know everyone hates the rich.

Perhaps he should never said anything of substance about what he would do about unemployment or the budget.... He should have just said, I will go after the rich.

Perhaps he should have had a history of hanging out with marxists.

Perhaps he should have devalued life of those that were unable to defend themselves.

Here we are.....is anything new under that stars, yet?? WAITING.
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nraacct
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 3:19:46 PM

What about underestimating your opponent?
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 8:46:51 AM

...and flip-flopped so often we never knew what he really stood for.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 8:15:35 AM

He should have picked Marco Rubio as VP.
Ryan would have made a good Sec of Treasury
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 5:28:26 AM

He was honest!
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 2:49:00 AM

He threw his hat in the ring for president
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 3:13:44 PM

Google this heading for a good look at Romney:

"what companies went bankrupt under Bain and Romney"

He has done many underhanded things that most people don't seem to know about.
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 3:03:15 PM

Mitt had a lot of things going against him:

1. He did not care what happened to the so called 47%.

2. His administration was anti women, blacks, Hispanics, older people, certainly against middle class, and didn't have any idea about being poor. He didn't have a Silver spoon, it was Gold.

3. would do anything for the rich 1-2%

4. flip flopped constantly, where he didn't even know what was the last thing he said.

5. He and Bain shut down the plant in Freeport, il. Sensata co. cutting several hundred workers, sending them home without a job and moving the operation to China. Mitt left with a cool $8,000,000.00 in his pocket everyone else went broke. The company had a record profit of over $5 mil the year before.

more to come.

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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 12:40:32 PM

I don't see it, YDraigGoch.

Is there really any doubt in anyone's mind about which candidate, Obama or Romney, would have done a better job dealing with this country's economy?
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 12:36:40 PM

He didn't go wrong. He went right. At least during the primaries.

Later, he changed directions, and surged in the polls. But it was too late. Too many people already had him tagged as a hard right wing believer, and that is not what America wanted.

If he did anything wrong, it was waiting too long to show that he was not one of the schizoid fanatics of the far right. Sort of a "He who hesitates is lost" thing.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:50:39 AM

>>Insiders Explain How Mitt Romney's Campaign Completely Fell Apart On Election Day<<

I would not say that a margin of victory of 330,000 votes in the four deciding swing states is a campaign completely falling apart.

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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:44:46 AM

Turb, "obviously not Bush's fault that (wmd) not found" and obviously no one is held accountable for the thousands of service people killed. Cons are so forgiving when it comes to one of their own. "Special knowledge", good question, apparently Obama did not buy the false intel data promoted by Bush Inc. Obama has been given little credit for his stance against going to war in Iraq, no shock their. If you do not go along with the majority of conspiracy followers of your party good for you. "His lips are moving" just about sums up the stance of so many suckers that never questioned Bush when wmd were NOT found after the Iraq invasion.

Poor Mitt finally made it to the White House. I hope he enjoyed lunch with the POTUS yesterday. Maybe now Mitt realizes how little he had in common with middle class America.
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 6:22:15 PM

Turbo,
You and I have different definitions on lying
You say it is changing his mind, I say it is out and out lying.
We are beating a dead horse here, time to move on.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 12:20:51 PM

rkt wgn: "I cant say I remember Obama flip-flopping on every topic like Nit-Wit-Mitt did. One day he said one thing the next day it was exactly the opposite."

That's called "flip-flopping", not "lying". He told the truth both times, but changed his mind in the middle. Obama never actually tells the truth. That's lying.

rkt wgn: "I am an ex republican who voted mostly republican all my life, and I can truthfully say, first, I did not believe, trust, or like Mitt, or Ryan..."

And from that I can say truthfully that have never really been a republican.
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 12:07:53 PM

<Funny, I felt the same way (and continue to feel the same way) about Obama. [How can you tell Obama is lying? His lips are moving.>

I cant say I remember Obama flip-flopping on every topic like Nit-Wit-Mitt did. One day he said one thing the next day it was exactly the opposite.

I am an ex republican who voted mostly republican all my life, and I can truthfully say, first, I did not believe, trust, or like Mitt, or Ryan...
I really believe that if Boehner, mccollum, McCain, and Ryan were out of congress, it would be a better place, and they would get a lot of things accomplished. Those guys are a Cancer.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 2:20:14 PM

rkt wgn: "Mitt and Paul lied to many times. couldn't believe anything they said."

Funny, I felt the same way (and continue to feel the same way) about Obama. [How can you tell Obama is lying? His lips are moving.]
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 1:08:06 PM

Actually I think Mittens would have made a good president, I believe folks voted out the manipulators behind the puppet strings.
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:20:18 AM

Mitt and Paul lied to many times. couldn't believe anything they said.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:13:40 AM

Mitt didn't go wrong the American people did.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:13:25 AM

The parade of the iggied continues.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:51:50 AM

He should have picked Rubio as VP
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 12:02:08 AM

He ran for President
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 3:02:31 PM

gocatgo: "Turb, either you believe Obama is a citizen of the US or not? If not you are a birther."

I believe he is a citizen. I don't know whether he is a natural born citizen.

gocatgo: "Bush and Bush alone was responsible for going into Iraq. There were no wmd found after the invasion and you like most cons don't hold him accountable."

The best intelligence in the world from past administrations and across the aisle all thought there were WMD. Obviously it is not Bush's fault that none were found.

gocatgo: "What is relevant is that Obama was against going into Iraq."

How so? Did he have special knowledge? Why didn't he share? More than likely he was the same uninformed, sniveling, cowardly, indecisive man that he is today. That being said, it is completely irrelevant.

gocatgo: "The wmd conspiracy revolves around people that believe wmd were sent to Syria."

They were. There is no doubt. How can that be a conspiracy *theory*? There was a conspiracy between Hussein and Assad to hide the Iraqi WMD.

But, none of that is relevant. The issue here was your false accusation that *all* cons are conspiracy theorists. "Turb, "the majority" does not include misinformed cons following the many conspiracy theories." You claimed that libs don't fall for that stuff. I've already proven you wrong. Why do you insist on pursuing this?
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 2:29:55 PM

Turb, either you believe Obama is a citizen of the US or not? If not you are a birther. Bush and Bush alone was responsible for going into Iraq. There were no wmd found after the invasion and you like most cons don't hold him accountable. What is relevant is that Obama was against going into Iraq. The wmd conspiracy revolves around people that believe wmd were sent to Syria. You either believe the conspiracy or you don't and you have dodged that question. It's time to step up to the plate and be honest for a change.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 12:43:12 PM

gocatgo: "Turb, "none", and you have never taken a stand on the Obama bc?"

No, that has never interested me. My only peripheral concern is the definition of natural born citizen.

gocatgo: "Bill Clinton quote, what part of they were all wrong do you not understand? Also just in case you have forgotten, Clinton did not go to war in Iraq."

What part of Bill Clinton is not a "con" don't you understand? You stated emphatically that WMDs in Iraq was a "con" conspiracy. I proved to you that the issue (conspiracy in your parlance) of WMDs in Iraq PRE-dated GWB. Whether Clinton took us to war in Iraq is irrelevant.

gocatgo: "Btw, you did not mention Obama and his vote on the Iraq war."

Because it is irrelevant and unnecessary to disprove your conspiracy theory.
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:50:52 AM

Turb, "none", and you have never taken a stand on the Obama bc? Bill Clinton quote, what part of they were all wrong do you not understand? Also just in case you have forgotten, Clinton did not go to war in Iraq. Btw, you did not mention Obama and his vote on the Iraq war.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:16:37 PM

gocatgo: "Turb, how about the Obama bc. Then we have Obama being the son of a commie. How about those nearly 100 people that Bill Clinton killed."

That's all you've got? That, somehow *rolls eyes*, proves that ""conspiracy nuts" are mostly made up of cons"? ROFLMAO!!!

gocatgo: "Last but not least the wmd not found after the Iraq invasion."

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

gocatgo: "How many of these conspiracies have you promoted?"

None.
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 3:57:49 PM

Turb, how about the Obama bc. Then we have Obama being the son of a commie. How about those nearly 100 people that Bill Clinton killed. Last but not least the wmd not found after the Iraq invasion. All of these conspiracies come from the imagination of cons. How many of these conspiracies have you promoted?
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 6:51:08 AM

The only way Romney could be compared to Kennedy , was money. Kennedy was not a hatchet man like Romney !!
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 2:00:46 PM

gocatgo: "Turb, "conspiracy nuts" are mostly made up of cons but you know that."

No, I don't. Please provide proof.
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:37:30 PM

Turb, "conspiracy nuts" are mostly made up of cons but you know that.

Jack, "liberals think no one should ever be rich" and you have proof to support that point? "Because he is rich" had little to do with what Mitt had to say about the other 99% of America or the infamous 47%. America certainly had no problem with JFK or his obvious wealth. The same could be said of FDR. But these men came across as caring about the have littles and have nots.
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:37:56 PM

He was wrong from the very start, because he is rich. Liberals think no one should ever be rich. And they convince others of that. There are a lot more liberals in the world, than conservatives, so it's not that hard to do.
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turbosaab
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:19:26 PM

gocatgo: "Turb, "911 truthers" aka conspiracy nuts."

Yes, but aka libs!
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:05:52 PM

Turb, "911 truthers" aka conspiracy nuts.

Tesl, "the respect of both parties" hints of compromise which was a dirty word among cons.
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