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SemiSteve

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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 9:42:43 AM

ABC News

--What a difference between the response to this storm and the one to Katrina. No more 'Heck of a job, Brownie."

Will it give him a bump in this crucial time just before the election?
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 11:51:14 AM

"The response from Congress has been anything but "exemplary". For aid to Sandy victims to be considered "Pork" by cons we have a problem."

Aid has already been sent and more will be sent... after the obvious pork has been extricated from this bill. "Cons" learmed their lesson with Pelosi's "sign it and read it later" Obamacare.

I STILL think the President should have line item veto powers.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 11:40:19 AM

gocatgo, "The response from Congress has been anything but "exemplary". For aid to Sandy victims to be considered "Pork" by cons we have a problem."

So a $2 million roof for the Smithsonian, millions to Alaska, and other add ons to the Sandy relief bill are not pork?

Seems to me that "the cons" are trying to be responsible with the spending and trying to throw out the pork on the bill.
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 9:53:42 AM

"What do I think? I think they're lucky we're not armed," yelled Rose Mazz

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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:49:32 AM

The "Pork" was a side dish, a rather large side dish.
Senate approves $60.4 billion Sandy aid bill

The House blocked this bill, and the Republicans proposed amendments.
"Senate Republicans failed on an amendment for a smaller package of about $24 billion in aid for Sandy"

The meat:
"The measure includes $11.5 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency's chief disaster relief fund and $17 billion for community development block grants, much of which would help homeowners repair or replace their homes. Another $11.7 billion would help repair New York City's subways and other mass transit damage and protect them from future storms. Some $9.7 billion would go toward the government's flood insurance program. The Army Corps of Engineers would receive $5.3 billion to mitigate flood future risks and rebuild damaged projects."

The side dish:
"To court votes, Democrats last week broadened some of their bill's provisions to cover damage from Hurricane Isaac, which struck the Gulf Coast earlier this year. A provision was added to the $2.9 billion allotted to Army Corps of Engineers projects to reduce future flooding risks; the coverage area for that program will now include areas hit by Isaac in addition to Sandy. Democrats also shifted $400 million into a community development program for regions suffering disasters, beyond areas struck by Sandy."

"Senate Republicans said much of the spending in the Democratic bill was for projects unrelated to Sandy, such as $150 million for fisheries disasters that could go to Alaska as well as Gulf Coast and New England states. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., sought to strip the fisheries funding, but his amendment failed."

"GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Coburn, two frequent critics of government spending, targeted what they called "questionable" spending in the Democratic bill, including $2 million for roof repairs at Smithsonian Institution museums and $58 million in subsidies for tree planting on private properties. A McCain amendment to strip the tree subsidies failed."

So much for fiscal responsibility.

"Republicans also criticized $13 billion in the Democratic bill for projects to protect against future storms, including fortifying mass transit systems in the Northeast. Republicans said however worthy such projects may be, they are not urgently needed and should be considered by Congress in the usual appropriations process next year."

If the Republican efforts (in the Senate) to limit this bill to true aid the the actual storm victims had not been blocked, the House would have easily passed it.

It still might.

Boehner agrees to Sandy aid vote on Friday
"The speaker will schedule a vote Friday for $9 billion for the national flood insurance program and another on Jan. 15 for a remaining $51 billion in the package,"
"King left the session with Boehner without the anger that led him to rip into the speaker Tuesday night.

"It was a very positive meeting," King said, adding that Boehner, R-Ohio, assured the lawmakers present that the money from the two House votes would roughly equal the $60 billion package of aid that passed the Senate."
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:35:46 AM

The response from Congress has been anything but "exemplary". For aid to Sandy victims to be considered "Pork" by cons we have a problem.
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florida1541
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:08:35 AM

besides katrina had fema working and starting clean up in 10 days , and bush got redaclude for slow response , it has now been 67 days since sandy and where is the fat , he comes out and bad mouthes the party and blames them for not giveing them a blank check, if christy runs for president in 2016 and wins the primary i will turn dem , and support the other side
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florida1541
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:04:10 AM

what a great job the dem,s have done the pres went to new jersey walked around with the fat guy said yep what a mess went back to d.c . end of story , now even the fat guy is blameing john ,b for the mess 66 days and counting with no action but b.o did a great job walking around , and smiling ,patting backs and hugs all around , and now the fat man comes out critasizeing his " own party
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 9:46:40 AM

How much PORK is in the Package?????

A Whole Lot Of FAT....!
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cbuck80
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 8:37:05 AM

This storm's response was just as bad but the MSM won't cover it.
And they won't and you guys asked for it.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 2:28:07 AM

YDraigGoch, More like "Heck of a job, Fugate!"

Why are these victims still waiting for help?
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:38:09 PM

--What a difference between the response to this storm and the one to Katrina. No more 'Heck of a job, Brownie."

How about "Heck of a job, Boehner". :o)
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:36:07 PM

MiddletownMarty, "The Republican House's disaster response... eh... not so good."

You've got that all wrong, it is the democrats disaster response (more spending on pork than the actual relief being sent) that is "not do good".
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 4:33:36 PM

Breaking: House to vote on Sandy aid, King says


Republican Rep. Peter King of New York said Wednesday that House Speaker John Boehner has promised a vote Friday on $9 billion in disaster aid for Superstorm Sandy and then another vote on $51 billion in aid on January 15.

King and other lawmakers have been highly critical of House leadership, especially House Speaker John Boehner, for not allowing a vote on the federal package before the current Congress wraps up Thursday.
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 4:32:59 PM

Marty, Could it be, that democrats should not have loaded the sandy relief bill with pork? The republicans did the right thing. put blame where it should be squarely on your hero democrats shoulders.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 3:54:35 PM

Actually, considering that the "Sandy Relief" Bill was full of pork, dropping the measure was good for the country.
Pork might be traditional for New Year's, but in the dietary sense, not the budgetary one.

The next Congress can take up the idea again and carefully consider what measures are needed to help out the areas most affected by the storm (that would be New Jersey and New York, coastal areas only). Rebuilding on the beach is folly. Legislation could help direct rebuilding to be done a little further inland. Live on the beach at your own risk.

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 1/2/2013 3:55:00 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 3:39:17 PM

'Shame on Congress,' Christie says after House drops Sandy vote

The Republican House's disaster response... eh... not so good.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 3:33:36 PM

Yeah, there's still debris on the streets in Rockaway and on Staten Island. OK, so where's that tremendous federal response? Hmmm?? Looks like it was a photo op, to me. How you?

Once again, Obama drops the ball. He ought to get some "skin in the game" (his words, not mine).
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 11:21:12 AM

SemiSteve, if that is the case, why are they still waiting for help? Why is Alaska getting millions of dollars in the Hurricane Sandy relief bill? Was Alaska hit by Hurricane Sandy? Why is the Smithsonian getting a new roof in this bill? Was the Smithsonian hit by Hurricane Sandy???

Umm... yeah, "heckuva job there!!!!!
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RAB2010
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 10:24:30 AM

According to reports from many citizens in New York boroughs outside of Manhattan, the response to Sandy has been completely ineffective.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 9:42:48 PM

Other than initial emergency response I never said the government should have done more that is your opinion.

only because you think I am a lefty.

But I did repeat his words "Brownie your doing a fine job".
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 4:05:46 PM

<<<"guys other than initial response to food water emergencies,repair of infastructure what do you think the government should do?The government should spend more on what?">>>

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The same stuff that you undoubtedly criticized Bush for not doing during Katrina! The shoe does not fit quite as well on the other foot now, does it?
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 2:12:34 PM

it been another 6 weeks?

guys other than initial response to food water emergencies,repair of infastructure what do you think the government should do?The government should spend more on what?

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Guitar_Man
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 1:52:22 PM

Just more proof that if the answer to the question is, "government help" than it's a REALLY dumb question!

While it's not popular to say amongst out Democrat friends in here, the private sector does everything better than government (faster, more efficiently, higher quality, and much less costly).

Many small towns are now out-sourcing traditional government areas like road repairs and snow removal? Why? Same reasons....faster, more efficiently, higher quality, and much less costly.

FEMA's failures are no surprise....it doesn't matter how popular the guy in the White House happens to be!

But giving $60 Billion to the Red Cross and firing FEMA would be unthinkable, wouldn't it??
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 1:40:47 PM

Well, another six weeks have passed. How is the disaster recovery going?
Is FEMA doing a superb job under Obama as opposed to the nightmarish Katrina response under Bush?

Not really.

Sandy Victims Still Stranded As ‘Red Tape’ Hinders Help From FEMA
"Nearly two months after homes in Staten Island, NY were devastated by Hurricane Sandy, residents say they’re still struggling with red tape as they try to get the government to help."
"FEMA “really hasn’t done much, if anything, and they’re making people go through a whole bunch of bureaucratic tape,” one resident told MRCTV."

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jacka123
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:09:15 PM

To do any less than what he did, he'd have to be really stupid. He only did what any Presidential candidate would have done in those circumstances. It's pretty much common sense that if you didn't, you'd lost the election for sure.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:05:11 PM

I would tell you that after Day 1, where Obama did his photo ops, FEMA has dropped the ball. Is Obama actually managing that situation? If not, why not? FEMA sells off a bunch of temp housing trailers, then all of a sudden they're needed. Brilliant! And the Fed response has been slow. there are still people freezing, without power and without food!
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 2:44:09 PM

The gas stations cannot pump fuel because the electrical lines are corroded from seawater. From the biggest storm to ever hit the states. Which the global warming deniers told us would never happen.

States wanted to upgrade, but certain people from you know which party objected to the expense. "We don't need higher taxes to pay for stuff we already have". You know, THOSE guys.

So it has been on hold for some time.

After all, that's part of that infrastructure that the communist, Kenyan Obama told us was NOT built by the "job creators". Well, actually, the ones they call job creators DID build it. Which is why it failed at the critical moment. They were too busy raking money off the top to do the job right.

The people working on getting the lines back up have been working day and night since the storm. Many of those people live (lived?) in areas most damaged by the storm. Yet they are out there trying to get everyone else's power back on first.

And what do they get? Whine, whine whine, mostly from people in areas that do not look like they belong to poor people.

Typical!
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:05:00 AM

Obama's Disaster Response is <Expletive>
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cbuck80
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:04:02 AM

NO it's not plain and simple
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:02:32 AM

Whatever you say, Steve.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:37:15 PM

Yeah, so where is Obama now, now that the election is over and there are people starving and freezing on Long Island and Staten Island? And what's up with the gasoline situation in NY/NJ? There are still plenty of stations that aren't open and cannot pump fuel.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 12:59:42 PM

Haven't seen Steve post here since the election. I guess the need to say it was "exemplary" is gone now. Too bad the need FOR a decent response hasn't.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 12:46:48 PM

In case some of you didn't hear the news.....

Cuomo Says He’ll Seek $30 Billion in U.S. Aid After Sandy

Cuomo Asks Feds For At Least $30 Billion In Disaster Relief

New Yorkers in Congress Prep to Bat for Cuomo's $30 Billion Ask

As was predicted in one of these threads earlier......reb4, remember?

This $30 Billion request includes more than just the clean-up, it includes needed improvements to infrastructure too........

They are lining up at the trough, just as we knew they would. New York City is just SOOOOO important, it deserves a full federal bailout.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 7:37:35 PM

Obama made his campaign stop with the storm ravaged back drop.
What more was there anyone thought he would do?
This topics title is a complete falsehood though.
If semisteve was an honest person, he would ask the mods to remove "Exemplary" from the title.
I don't think people defacating in their apartment hallways can be considered exemplary.

[Edited by: theTower at 11/8/2012 7:42:49 PM EST]
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Daurel
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 7:30:13 PM

Better look at the news most are asking "where is the help?"
We will see there are people sick from the cold we will see how many die while the "Exemplary" response happens.
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 6:32:05 PM

So much for that exemplary disaster response! I guess campaigning was much more important.
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 5:57:46 PM

"Victims of an unforgiving one-two punch from superstorm Sandy and a nor'easter that both hit New York's Staten Island say FEMA has forgotten them.

Already without power for more than a week in the wake of Sandy, hard-hit residents of the borough's South Shore braved a winter storm Wednesday night, with many -- perhaps hundreds -- huddling in condemned homes and ignoring orders to evacuate out of fear looters would take what little Mother Nature has left them.

"FEMA packed up everything yesterday and left the area," said MaryLou Wong, whose home in the Midland Beach neighborhood was destroyed. "They haven't come back."

Punch-drunk residents' ire is also aimed at the city -- which is going door-to-door to order people out of their homes -- at the American Red Cross, which some say has not done enough and at police and firefighters. One group of residents, calling themselves the "Brown Cross," is patrolling the devastated streets, armed with walkie-talkies, and helping residents clear debris and pump water from their flooded homes.

“We’ve done more for our community than FEMA, the Red Cross and the National Guard combined, directly hitting houses and people in need,” Frank Recce, the 24-year-old longshoreman and Iraq Army veteran who organized the group, told FoxNews.com.

Last week, when President Obama toured the New Jersey and New York coastal areas hit hard by Sandy, he vowed to get help to the victims quickly.

“No bureaucracy. No red tape,” Obama vowed."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/08/volunteers-step-in-for-fema-in-storm-ravaged-nyc-borough/#ixzz2BftL14ns

Not having FEMA there at all is one way to avoid bureaucracy and red tape.
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Benghazi and Obamas gun running will be buried.
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 3:26:02 PM

Didn't seem that way in Benghazi, the Obama administration just sat and watched it happen.

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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 2:27:50 PM

Obama's next disaster is a cliff of his own making looming on the near horizon. I'm praying for an "exemplary response".
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 10:50:03 PM

yup yup, watch what bho does, not what he says
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 9:52:55 PM

Chicago vs. Jersey mob tactics.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 5:13:27 PM

Christie makes sense when he says that NJ would save money by treating drug abusers in rehab rather than prison. The cost is about half.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:51:14 PM

Oh, I see, Christie thought it was so exemplary that he's voting for Romney.

Didn't know you were such a Christie fan. Maybe we can adopt some of his fiscal policies?!

[Edited by: teacher_tim at 11/5/2012 4:52:11 PM EST]
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:49:23 PM

The question is, did christie really think that, or was he hoping it would help get aid to his city quicker?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:41:31 PM

Perhaps the fact that Christie thought so?
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:27:22 PM

Oh, I see, Steve, John Barron said it was exemplary and you agreed enough to post it. What was exemplary about it?
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:25:56 PM

THAT wouldn't look good for him before the election, would it?
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:23:49 PM

From what I have been seeing on the news, the luster is starting to wear thin on Obama's so called exemplary response. Why doesn't he go back and face the people that havn't witnessed his exemplary response, what's he afraid of?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 3:59:13 PM

just goes to show, once again - watch what bho does, not what he says
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