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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 3:49:50 AM

9:20AM EDT October 29. 2012 - President Obama says his administration is still investigating the attack on U.S. Consulate in Libya, and is offended at suggestions that it did not do enough to protect American targets there.

"Anytime a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans who were serving our country get killed, we have to figure out what happened and fix it," Obama said in a taped interview with MSNBC's Morning Joe.

"But," he added, "I do take offense with some suggestion that in any way, we haven't tried to make sure that the American people knew as the information was coming in what we believed."

Republicans and other critics have questioned security at the consulate in Benghazi, the shifting stories about what led to the attack, and whether the U.S. government could have provided more help to the embassy employees under siege.

The Sept. 11 attack killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. Officials initially attributed the violence to a protest of an anti-Islam film that got out of hand, but later called it a planned terrorist operation.

In his Morning Joe interview -- taped Saturday -- Obama pledged accountability if his aides mishandled the response to Benghazi.USA Today
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 12:13:46 PM

the obama crowd is desperate to make this go away, telling the truth, and not trying to keep people from telling their side of it, would be a good start. they swear up, and down, they aren't trying to cover it up, but their words, and actions, tell another story.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 8:45:56 AM

"The CO regardless if he was on the bridge or not, because it's his/her ship."

Nah, she is in charge of ALL of the ships. In every ocean. What you are saying is that whomever was responsible for our diplomats in that region ran the ship aground. And I agree.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 6:00:09 AM

Key General speaks on Benghazi: Jets not deployed due to 'uncertain situation'

7-22-13

"Former Carter F. Ham of Africa Command (AFRICOM) was a key decision maker during the Benghazi terror attack that killed four Americans in September. He spoke this weekend at a conference in Aspen, Colorado and some of his comments were revealing, and frankly, troubling."

This article consists of parts of an interview with Ham, as well as commentary by the writer of the article. Very telling interview. The article also links to an article that proposes 10 unanswered questions about what happened in Benghazi:Benghazi terror attack: Ten unanswered questions from 6-25-13

The whole event speaks to the lack of integrity in the officials involved--the meaning of integrity encompasses more than just telling the truth. It involves not hiding things, and not trying to depict events in a slanted manner to make someone look good. It is my opinion that our national reputation has been impugned because individuals who were "in charge" at Benghazi have not all sung the same tune.

[Edited by: mweyant at 7/23/2013 6:02:32 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 2:30:35 AM

And yet we still have a great percentage of brain-dead Americans that will fawn in awe every time saying, "That was a great speech the President did about race...." Seriously?!?! What the F? A SPEECH!? He made a SPEECH?!? You have got to be effing kidding me? You're panties are moist because of a SPEECH?!?

It's maddening.

We live shoulder to shoulder in a nation populated with gullible fools. I'd say "God help us.", but it's beyond his powers. We're hosed.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 12:27:51 AM

>>Weasle, but I have yet to see where she gave an order to keep the embassy open or to deny extra security.....<<

She was the Secretary of State so essentially it lands in her lap. Take for instance when a ship runs aground in the Navy. Who is ultimately removed/fired. The CO regardless if he was on the bridge or not, because it's his/her ship.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 11:36:44 PM

I do not believe the families of the men who died in Benghazi have forgotten them, and neither have I. It is interesting to me what takes priority. Death of Govt workers does not take priority in this administration.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 11:34:17 PM

>>>>If only our ambassadors were Hoodie wearing juvenile delinquents wandering the streets in search of prime thieving targets & Purple Drank. Maybe then Obama would care. <<<<

WOW just WOW, that put some perspective on this.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 8:11:23 PM

I still honestly dont care that the Presidnet is upset or not happy.

MR. PRESIDENT - ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HAS!
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Philo_Gray
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 7:55:59 PM

How long can he go without talking about it? As long as he wants to lie.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 7:05:04 PM

If only our ambassadors were Hoodie wearing juvenile delinquents wandering the streets in search of prime thieving targets & Purple Drank. Maybe then Obama would care.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 4:47:01 PM

Weaslespit, "In your own words, they have;

"On September 26, 2012, Hillary Clinton finally admitted that the attack on Benghazi was not from some purported video, but was actually a well-planned terrorist attack, and September 27, 2012, 17 days later, Obama finally did the same.""

So what was the reason for the multi week cover up?
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 3:50:06 PM

Yeah, no cover up at all... So why can't eye witnesses testify as to what happened so that we might be able to investigate what happened?

Benghazi survivors were asked to sign non-disclosure agreements

<<<"Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., is calling on the Obama administration to explain why the survivors of last year's deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, were reportedly asked to sign non-disclosure agreements that prevent them from talking about the attack.

In a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and CIA Director John Brennan, Wolf said his office has received reports that some survivors of the attack were asked to sign the confidentiality agreement as recently as this summer.

"If these reports are accurate, it would raise serious questions about additional restrictions the State Department has placed on those with knowledge of the Benghazi attacks," Wolf said in the letter. "I also worry about the impact of any [non-disclosure agreements] on congressional efforts to understand fully what happened that night and why the agency responded as it did."">>>
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 11:00:13 PM

"In short if she didn’t know about the conditions on the ground she failed to do her job by not properly supervise her personal explaining what she needed to know about. If this is the case she is at least partualy responcible. She should have been aware of the two previous attacks at the very least. Those alone should have been red flags. If she did know she is 100% responsible and the death are on her head. It’s not like they were asking for the men’s room to be renovated or a soft serve ice cream machine. That they probably could have gotten."

I wouldn't have too much heart burn agreeing with this statement...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 10:59:20 PM

"weaslespit, Are you trying to say, if benghazi had happened under the republicans watch, that democrats wouldn't have been asking the same questions, and don't you think your hero democrats would be trying to score political points with it?"

Not at all. It would be the same empty rhetoric from 'my hero democrats'... I actually have typically voted Republican, it is only in recent history that I have gotten away from them as the Tea Party has tainted their ranks.

"The people that lost family members, deserve answers, not a bunch of talking points, and empty statements, like they are getting from obama on down now."

With regards to the 3 points I outlined below, you are absolutely right. Unfortunately your 'hero GOPers' only want to ask about "The Great Lie" as this scores the most points politically.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 10:55:02 PM

"It is her responsibility to appoint people competent enough to make the right decisions and if she doesn't it falls on her."

Where is a good crystal ball when you need one...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 10:53:57 PM

"I'll let Al Gore speak to this in his own words (from 9/29/92) :)"

What does 1992 have to do with 2003? Never liked Gore much either...

"In any case, why won't Washington come clean as to what happened in Benghazi??? Pointing fingers at past history doesn't clear current history."

In your own words, they have;

"On September 26, 2012, Hillary Clinton finally admitted that the attack on Benghazi was not from some purported video, but was actually a well-planned terrorist attack, and September 27, 2012, 17 days later, Obama finally did the same."
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 9:28:39 PM

Weasel: <<<"He wasn't the President, but he sure was vocal in his support... If that be the position you are going to take, we haven't heard much from W on the subject either. I chose McCain because of his obviously hypocritical attacks asking for answers with regards to Benghazi when he himself was in front of cameras asking for patience for the ruth to come out about the WMD's that were supposedly in Iraq.">>>

I'll let Al Gore speak to this in his own words (from 9/29/92) :)
1992: Al Gore Admits Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction

In any case, why won't Washington come clean as to what happened in Benghazi??? Pointing fingers at past history doesn't clear current history.
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 6:52:03 PM

"I don't like Hillary much and it would be a really disappointing election year if I were to find myself voting for her for POTUS, but I have yet to see where she gave an order to keep the embassy open or to deny extra security..."

It is a failure of her leadership. She doesn't have to give the order to not do something to make it her failure. It is her responsibility to appoint people competent enough to make the right decisions and if she doesn't it falls on her. This entire administration has become like PAM. You know...the cooking spray. Nothing ever sticks to them because they keep dodging responsibility. It is ALWAYS someone else's fault. ALWAYS!!!
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 6:35:48 PM

>>>>I don't like Hillary much and it would be a really disappointing election year if I were to find myself voting for her for POTUS, but I have yet to see where she gave an order to keep the embassy open or to deny extra security...<<<<<<.

She was the Secretary of State. Embassy security was her department’s responsibility. If she didn’t get the requests for security she should have. Given the deteriorating conditions on the ground she should have been asking questions about what was going on and if the ambassador was safe. Given the two previous attacks on the consulate she should have been briefed.

In short if she didn’t know about the conditions on the ground she failed to do her job by not properly supervise her personal explaining what she needed to know about. If this is the case she is at least partualy responcible. She should have been aware of the two previous attacks at the very least. Those alone should have been red flags. If she did know she is 100% responsible and the death are on her head. It’s not like they were asking for the men’s room to be renovated or a soft serve ice cream machine. That they probably could have gotten.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 7/10/2013 6:38:51 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 5:00:45 PM

weaslespit, Are you trying to say, if benghazi had happened under the republicans watch, that democrats wouldn't have been asking the same questions, and don't you think your hero democrats would be trying to score political points with it? Don't you think, that the way they have acted, or not acted, on benghazi might just be a little political? THe people that lost family members, deserve answers, not a bunch of talking points, and empty statements, like they are getting from obama on down now.
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 4:15:45 PM

"The truth needs to be told about how incompetent she (Ms. Clinton) was."

I don't like Hillary much and it would be a really disappointing election year if I were to find myself voting for her for POTUS, but I have yet to see where she gave an order to keep the embassy open or to deny extra security...
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 4:12:51 PM

"--As a matter of fact, he simply ignores terrorist attack altogether throughout his speech, how do you see this as a strategic move (other than manipulating the perceived truths in an election season)?"

Using the attack - regardless of the genesis of it - to foster relations with the Arab community is not a strategic move to you?

"--He was not the leader of our country at the time, nor has he planted inaccurate information, nor does many care what McCain thinks."

He wasn't the President, but he sure was vocal in his support... If that be the position you are going to take, we haven't heard much from W on the subject either. I chose McCain because of his obviously hypocritical attacks asking for answers with regards to Benghazi when he himself was in front of cameras asking for patience for the ruth to come out about the WMD's that were supposedly in Iraq.

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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 3:20:02 PM

Received this poem in an email, allegedly written by a Marine Corp officer:

"Bump in the Road"

We're the Battling Boys of Benghazi,
no fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
Just a fiery death in a blazing hell
defending the country we loved so well.
It wasn't our job, but we answered the call,
fought to the consulate and scaled the wall.
We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
led them to safety and stood at the gate.
Just the two of us, and foes by the score,
but we stood fast to bar the door.
Three calls for reinforcement, but all were denied,
so we fought and we fought and we fought till we died.
We gave our all for our Uncle Sam
but Barack Obama didn't give a damn
just two dead SEALs who carried the load
no thanks to us - we were just "bumps in the road."
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 1:17:02 PM

Weaselspit: <<<"I don't see anything incompetant with that, I see it as a strategic move...>>>"

--OK, here are some more excerpts from the same speech:
<<<"And on this we must agree: There is no speech that justifies mindless violence. There are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. There's no video that justifies an attack on an embassy. There's no slander that provides an excuse for people to burn a restaurant in Lebanon, or destroy a school in Tunis, or cause death and destruction in Pakistan. ">>>

or:

<<<"Now, let me be clear: Just as we cannot solve every problem in the world, the United States has not and will not seek to dictate the outcome of democratic transitions abroad. We do not expect other nations to agree with us on every issue, nor do we assume that the violence of the past weeks or the hateful speech by some individuals represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Muslims, any more than the views of the people who produced this video represents those of Americans. However, I do believe that it is the obligation of all leaders in all countries to speak out forcefully against violence and extremism.">>>

--As a matter of fact, he simply ignores terrorist attack altogether throughout his speech, how do you see this as a strategic move (other than manipulating the perceived truths in an election season)?

Weaselspit: <<<"And we are still waiting for McCain to finally admit that Iraq didn't have WMD's so 17 days (according to you) seems to be some kind of record in transparency if you ask me....">>>

--He was not the leader of our country at the time, nor has he planted inaccurate information, nor does many care what McCain thinks.Weaselspit: <<<"The outrage should be as follows;

1) Why were our people still there to begin with
2) Why was there so little scurity given the rising tensions on the ground
3) Why was help nost sent in (although I personally believe this has been addressed)">>>

--I am likewise outraged about this as well, and even more so that it continues to be covered up, and the lack of "transparency", as well as the partisan bickering that comes in the guise of "investigation of the matter". I don't see where you feel that the absence of help being sent in was addressed, I still to this day have yet to hear who and why the military was told to "stand down". Perhaps you know something I don't?

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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 12:23:31 PM

Because the person that was so incompetent has been dancing around the issue and allowed this to happen. And now they are talking about her running for president? The truth needs to be told about how incompetent she was. Our country cannot afford another incompetent president. We have had 2 in a row as it is and another could be devastating.
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 12:20:46 PM

"So how does that answer the last question. Because if they can sell it as a spontaneous uprising upset over a video nobody is going to question the rest. If it was a terrorist plot then people start digging into the intelligence and what they knew when. Guess what...that happened and they found out that there were inklings that an attack was imminent. The ambassador asked for more security and was told no. So after the attack first they tried to cover and when that did not happen they tried to place blame elsewhere...on Congress for not providing funding. This entire administration has been about duck and dodge responsibility."

But yet #4 is the only talking point people here still seem to want to post? Even if what you posted is the truth of the matter, why focus on something that has nothing to do with preventing a recurrence by addressing the root causes? Of course, one could seem to score a lot more political points - is that the only thing you care about?
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 11:30:41 AM

1) Why were our people still there to begin with
2) Why was there so little scurity given the rising tensions on the ground
3) Why was help nost sent in (although I personally believe this has been addressed)
4) Why did they cover up the true nature of the attack

I will answer question #4 by looking at questions 1 - 3. They left them there, they did not provide adequate security, and they did not send anyone to help.

So how does that answer the last question. Because if they can sell it as a spontaneous uprising upset over a video nobody is going to question the rest. If it was a terrorist plot then people start digging into the intelligence and what they knew when. Guess what...that happened and they found out that there were inklings that an attack was imminent. The ambassador asked for more security and was told no. So after the attack first they tried to cover and when that did not happen they tried to place blame elsewhere...on Congress for not providing funding. This entire administration has been about duck and dodge responsibility.
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 10:20:42 AM

"Either the administration lied, or they were incompetent, you make the call!"

Or you are reading what you want based on your bias. There is that, too.

Regarding your quote from 9/25/12, what is the problem with that comment? You don't see how that could possibly serve the greater good for US interests in all regions globally (rather than just focusing on Benghazi)? I don't see anything incompetant with that, I see it as a strategic move...

"On September 26, 2012, Hillary Clinton finally admitted that the attack on Benghazi was not from some purported video, but was actually a well-planned terrorist attack, and September 27, 2012, 17 days later, Obama finally did the same."

And we are still waiting for McCain to finally admit that Iraq didn't have WMD's so 17 days (according to you) seems to be some kind of record in transparency if you ask me....

To further quote Hillary, 'it doesn't matter' if the attack ocurred due to retaliation over a video or a well-planned attack - our peoplel died regardless. The point is moot; I dunno why Obama haters hang onto this Tea Party talking point so tightly when it is meaningless. The outrage should be as follows;

1) Why were our people still there to begin with
2) Why was there so little scurity given the rising tensions on the ground
3) Why was help nost sent in (although I personally believe this has been addressed)

These are legitimate reasons to be upset with the our Government over this issue. Not the one you (and others) keep posting.

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 7/10/2013 10:26:43 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 2:18:44 AM

Nobody actually believed it was a Youtube video gone wild that caused a military-style attack on the anniversary of Sept. 11th. It was obvious to all but the water-carrying true believers that it was just a idiotic cover story.

It takes a special kind of gullibility to believe such a story. Very special. And to think we here are all so lucky to interact with such a special person. I think it's kind of cute he actually says he believes our government, with all it's intelligence & sophistication actually thought for a couple of weeks that a Youtube video was the cause of our Ambassador's slaughter. Wow! Think about it. That's really freaking gullible.

What's even more funny, is this rube is still trying to sell that garbage NOW. Almost a year after the fact, he's still touting a Youtube video to us? Seriously, that's grounds for never paying attention to ANYTHING he ever says. How can ANYBODY be that freaking stupid? Seriously? No...really. How?
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 12:15:13 AM

>>Weasle, That the incident was initially thought to be a result of protesters reacting to a video and later corrected to a terrorist attack? C'mon....<<

Come on...Ambassador Susan Rice essentially threw the Libyan PM underneath the bus with the assessment he made on the attack. Guess which person was right? Ambassador Rice or the Prime Minister...it was the Prime Minister.
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 12:04:52 AM

Is Obama still on vacation?

BTW, you all need to tighten your belts and pay your taxes.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 11:50:37 PM

The attack occurred Tuesday, 9/11/2012. Susan Rice famously lied so adamantly across multiple news shows on Sunday, 9/16/2012. Obama spoke to the UN on 9/25/2012 and stated:

<<<"That is what we saw play out the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well – for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and religion. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion – we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.>>>"

On September 26, 2012, Hillary Clinton finally admitted that the attack on Benghazi was not from some purported video, but was actually a well-planned terrorist attack, and September 27, 2012, 17 days later, Obama finally did the same.

Either the administration lied, or they were incompetent, you make the call!

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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 11:36:40 PM

I don’t really care that much about the lies told after the attack. I think it was wrong but that isn’t the point. What I want to know is who refused the requested security and why. I also want to know who was responsible for pulling what limited security that was there and why. I want to know why no one is being held responsible. I want to know who gave the stand down order. It may not have made a difference but we will never know and we didn’t know with any certainty if the attack was over. I also want to know why we even had men there when it was clearly out of control.

These are the things I have issues with.

I would also like to know were Obama was during the attack.
These were his people being attacked. If anything happens at the shop I am responsible for I am on the phone getting information and in my truck headed in if my presence is needed. That is 24/7 no holidays no Saturdays or Sundays.

I knew that came with the job when I took it. I would think Obama should have known that too.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 7/9/2013 11:37:58 PM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 11:26:44 PM

>>>>What lie? That the incident was initially thought to be a result of protesters reacting to a video and later corrected to a terrorist attack? C'mon....<<<<

They knew within days if not hours that it was an organized terror attack but went on with the video claim for about a week.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 11:00:32 PM

"I heard them lie, about the people that did in fact die."

What lie? That the incident was initially thought to be a result of protesters reacting to a video and later corrected to a terrorist attack? C'mon....

Nobody ever lied about the fact that people did in fact die. The real tragedy is that this was all preventable in that none of them should have been there at that time in the first place. End of story.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 5:34:23 PM

I say again --- Mr President - I don't really care if you are offended or not. Answer the questions and give the truth for once.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 5:30:35 PM

Weaselspit: <<<"Unfortuantely when there is just a grandiose claim with no substance, unproven theories do seem to die-off... What happend in Benghazi was certainly tragic however the conspiraciy theories just don't hold water.">>>

Not a theory, but fact. I saw it with my own eyes. Obama, Rice, and Clinton redacting the truth and spinning it to suit a presidential election. I heard them lie, about the people that did in fact die.
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 11:35:34 AM

"It would seem that the IRS scandal is successfully derailing any investigations in regards to how Washington left our people to die and then lie about it for weeks afterward."

Unfortuantely when there is just a grandiose claim with no substance, unproven theories do seem to die-off... What happend in Benghazi was certainly tragic however the conspiraciy theories just don't hold water.
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2013 11:28:56 PM

EZEXIT, >>
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Good. But we should not let the media mislead us into letting this disgraceful act be forgotten with other disgraceful acts or popular scandals or trumped up scandals such as Paula Deen's woes.

In the topic entitled, " Has This Gone Too Far", I asked, "... Is the Deen fiasco being overplayed by the media to hide other more important stories? Such as previously mentioned IRS corruption, or NSA spying on citizens without probable cause, or Democrats failing to live up to their 30 year old promise to secure our borders, or the hiding of BenGhazi details?

Also, is there anything we should do about the companies that took the hardline stand and ignored the support shown for Deen? If so, what do you think could or should be done?"

ALL of these GOVERNMENTAL VIOLATIONS deserve our full attention. I suspect we will be hearing of more violations and media stories attempting to mislead us in the very near future.

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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2013 9:04:54 PM

It would seem that the IRS scandal is successfully derailing any investigations in regards to how Washington left our people to die and then lie about it for weeks afterward. I haven't forgotten them...
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 10:29:19 AM

"The sensory package on the AC-130 dwarfs that in price comparison."

I would be certain of that.
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 11:48:01 PM

Weasle, I use to work on the MH-53 our Doppler R/T (Receiver/Transmitter) cost over $500,000 for a single box. The sensory package on the AC-130 dwarfs that in price comparison.
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 10:08:29 AM

Is the Obama Administration still investigating? Do they know what happened in Benghazi yet?
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 10:04:50 AM

"Obviously you cannot comprehend the capability of this asset, specifically its sensory package"

I cannot say I have ever operated it, no...
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 12:38:16 AM

>>Weasle, I'm not worried about our guys hitting freindly ground forces, I'm worried about how they determine who is unfriendly at altitude with no intelligence from the ground.....<<

Obviously you cannot comprehend the capability of this asset, specifically its sensory package.
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 2:33:39 PM

"The men on the ground had radio communications equipment."

From one vantage point under fire? That may have worked to call in support during WWII but I don't see that as enough intelligence (if any at all) to prevent a greater tragedy where we kill non-combatants...
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 9:26:44 AM

This is certainly an in-your-face appointment. I guess Obama figures why not, since it doesn't matter what he does. If he adopts a GOP policy as the policy he wants, the GOP suddenly turns against it. If he nominates a neutral person for a position, the GOP attacks them as rabidly as they do a real leftist like Van Jones.

His response is a normal response to an opposition that has no moderation left to it at all.
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 8:08:38 AM

Now Rice won't have to testify about Benghazi! The executive privilege will be used now.
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 12:12:20 AM

>>>>>I'm not worried about our guys hitting freindly ground forces, I'm worried about how they determine who is unfriendly at altitude with no intelligence from the ground...<<<<<

The men on the ground had radio communications equipment. The needed information could be sent to the relevant parties. Even back in 1983 operation urgent furry the men on the ground found ways around communication problems. When stuck with out adequate communications the men on the ground use a calling card and a land line to place a long distance phone call back to Bragg requesting a fire support mission.

I didn’t get this from that Clint Eastwood movie they got it from reality.
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One thing I was taught is that the best made battle plan goes down the crapper about ten seconds after the first shot is fired. After that you have to improvise.
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 9:16:51 PM

Apparently, Obama has found a way to pay off Susan Rice today by being the sacrificial lamb on the Benghazi scandal, she now has a new job, as national security adviser to the president. I understand that she did have to take a competency test where they proposed several scenarios of a national security crisis, and see if she could spin each of them in such a way to manipulate our system of government favorably to the DNC. She passed with flying colors.
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