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jdhelm

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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:47:13 AM

back when Nixon was president - there was "watergate"

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now with bho, will it be called:

1. Benghazigate

2. Libyagate

3. obamagate

[Edited by: jdhelm at 10/26/2012 7:47:39 AM EST]
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 4:41:08 PM

Obamals? Scobamals? OBAUScandals? [Obama's Business As Usual]

I agree that Clinton can't avoid them if she runs. Smart of her not to declare before absolutely necessary, but as the only Dem frontrunner, every Rep is already readying the mud for slinging, if there's any left over after the Rep and Dem primaries, that is.

[Edited by: teacher_tim at 6/6/2014 4:42:56 PM EST]
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XJohnnyVx
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 4:26:04 PM

Obamagate is most fitting considering everything he does is a scandle...
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maryanneusa
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 12:35:48 PM

whatever it is, it will most surely rear it's head if hillary runs for potus and I hope it hurts her as much as it hurt our 4 dead Americans.
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nraacct
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 12:11:37 PM

If the majority of American media has its way, it will be swept under the rug and forgotten.
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Grizdad
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Whatever it is, remember what the boss just said, we have a history or leaving no one behind. We just don't send help to save them when it is political. Head in sand...
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 29, 2014 8:28:44 PM

or - - - hillarygate?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 2:29:47 PM

Or if you are involved in too many scandals, the average voter will just tune it all out.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 9:33:17 PM

I think it will be the IRS Scandal.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 8:54:26 PM

For pitty sake Cliffy. Don't you even know that Issa is a member of the House of Representatives. You do know there are two separate houses in the legislative branch right.

You really need to aspire to more than your drive by postings. snicker snort smile.......
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 8:13:01 PM

Sen D.Issa looks like a lying fool gate.

[Edited by: Cliffisher at 7/19/2013 8:14:22 PM EST]
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TJP48
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You forgot I.R.S. Gate
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no1doc
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 6:57:34 AM

For alliteration I go with Benghazigate.
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FluffyDogAttack
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 2:15:09 AM

Ahhh, nice to see our local water-carrying deflector hard at work trying to diminish the real problems our President is facing.

"Hmmm....maybe if we insult gasbuddy commentators my hero will come out unscathed".

Don't worry oh wise one, he'll do just fine with out your little gasbuddy support group. The ignorant public and complicit media has got your back.

Back to the poll. I vote for #4. Beyonce-gate. The idiot masses care about Beyonce's pregnancy more than the failed leadership of their country.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 2:00:34 AM

i agree - obamagate (but as hillary would say - at this point, does it really matter?) + (hey hillary, does it really matter that what bill did to monica wasn't really sex? that didn't matter either then, huh hillary)
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 9:41:46 AM

#3
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 7:46:58 AM

"A few more days like this, obama will claim he was born in Kenya". - Dennis Miller
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:36:20 PM

Petraeus email objected to Benghazi talking points

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Wednesday May 15, 2013, 2 hours 9 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Then CIA-Director David Petraeus objected to the final talking points the Obama administration used after the deadly assault on a U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, because he wanted to see more details revealed to the public, according to emails released Wednesday by the White House.

Under pressure in the investigation that continues eight months after the attacks, the White House on Wednesday released 99 pages of emails and a single page of hand-written notes made by Petraeus' deputy, Mike Morell, after a meeting at the White House on Saturday, Sept. 15. On that page, Morell scratched out from the CIA's early drafts of talking points mentions of al-Qaida, the experience of fighters in Libya, Islamic extremists and a warning to the Cairo embassy on the eve of the attacks of calls for a demonstration and break-in by jihadists.

Petraeus apparently was displeased by the removal of so much of the material his analysts initially had proposed for release. The talking points were sent to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to prepare her for an appearance on news shows on Sunday, Sept. 16, and also to members of the House Intelligence Committee.

"No mention of the cable to Cairo, either?" Petraeus wrote after receiving Morell's edited version, developed after an intense back-and-forth among Obama administration officials. "Frankly, I'd just as soon not use this, then."

Petreaus' email comes at the end of extensive back-and-forth between officials at the CIA, White House, State Department and other agencies weighing in on a public explanation for the Sept. 11, 2012, attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans

The emails were partially blacked out, including removal of names of senders and recipients who are career employees at the CIA and elsewhere.

The emails show only minor edits were requested by the White House, and most of the objections came from the State Department. "The White House cleared quickly, but State has major concerns," read an email that a CIA official sent to Petraeus on Friday, Sept. 14
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:30:18 PM

benghazigate, aka - obamagate, looks like the bho decided to release some of the emails today.

and then bho asks John McCain and top Republicans to please keep going on immigration reform so bho will look good at something.

bho is looking more and more like he will go down as worse than Nixon, possibly even billary - who did not have sexual relations with that woman.

obamagate
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 5:24:43 PM

I hear there's going to be a white house softball game - by invitation only of course, and each newsperson is to pay $500,000 to participate, they have to just show up with cash. bho will provide the softballs, no bats, no uniforms, and plenty of free kool aid. the game will last a bho lifetime, and bho is the umpire. there will be no teams, it's all one big team - so that everyone wins.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 10:58:20 AM

Guitarman, a little visual aid for your post...

"He locks the press out of knowing anything about what he did and didn't do the night of Benghazi...
...and the press says nothing and won't ask him."

We don't know if that's true, but you're right that...

"Yes, still no reporters dare asking him anything about Benghazi."
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Guitar_Man
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:29:40 PM

There's significance in recent events with the main (lame) stream media and the President.

He locks the press out of knowing anything about what he did and didn't do the night of Benghazi and the press says nothing and won't ask him.

He locks the press out of his "secret" golf trip with Tiger Woods and the media is offended and starts whining so Obama calls them in for an off-the-record love-feast and, now, everything is just peachy again.

Yes, still no reporters dare asking him anything about Benghazi.

It's totally disgusting, actually, how the murder of four Americans is less important than protecting their emperor.

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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 11:16:12 AM

I like:
WhineGate
LoserGate
CryBabyGate
LetsgetOGate
4,287vs4Gate
I'mboredGate
NothinKnewGateAll of the above a ring of truth to them.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 8:14:44 AM

I'll give bho this, he's (so far) successfully swept this under his rug of accomplishments, but I obamagate or benghazigate will hopefully see day light at some point in the future.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 11:08:41 PM

How about ODSgate?
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 9:47:55 PM

"Benghazigate - Libyagate - obamagate / which one will it be called? you vote"

1. Wishfulthinkinggate
2. WehateObamagate
3. Noreasonforagategate
4. Notenoughreasonforascandalgate
5. ImamazedyourenotblamingHillarygate
6. Ohbrothergate
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 8:45:25 PM

i heard bho was playing a golf game on his smart phone, against tiger woods, and they made this golf outting trip plan that nite
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 4:19:02 PM

wh now claims it's releasing what bho did on 911 of Benghazi attack, do you really believe this now at this late date?

[Edited by: jdhelm at 2/14/2013 4:20:33 PM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:22:19 AM

obamagate

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[L=http://www.examiner.com/article/text deleted/L]

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obamagate

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obamagate - take your pick
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 8:02:29 PM

flyboyUT - "If your really saying that the State dept doesnt have the capability of prioritizing its expenditures I think your --- shall we say "in error"."

They only have the capability of prioritizing expenditures within the boundaries that Congress sets for them. One of those boundaries is what Congress says specific funds are for.

"If someone in the State Dept made the decision that security is less important than these frivilous expenditures they need to be canned. But the facts are someone did authorize each and every expenditure made. Some one or more people did in fact priortize how the money will be spent."

And much of that was done by Congress. The State Department can't spend money on security if Congress says the money is for something else. That applies to every department in the executive branch.

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:10:45 PM

RJ if all yo wish to do ia play games do so with someone else. If your really saying that the State dept doesnt have the capability of prioritizing its expenditures I think your --- shall we say "in error".

If someone in the State Dept made the decision that security is less important than these frivilous expenditures they need to be canned. But the facts are someone did authorize each and every expenditure made. Some one or more people did in fact priortize how the money will be spent.

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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 4:58:38 PM

So, tell me flyboy, can State just spend the money that Congress authorizes for them on anything they want to, or are they limited by what Congress authorizes the money for? Do they get just one big pile of money that they have complete control over, or do they get several smaller piles, each dedicated to a specific purpose?

As for "Secretary Clinton's own Deputy Assistant Secretary Charlene Lamb testified to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on October 10, 2012 that budgetary considerations played no role in the State Department's refusal to send additional security personnel to Benghazi.", I can't find any record that she said any such thing.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 10:15:43 PM

RJ if that wasnt enough of a hint for you try this
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 10:11:53 PM

AC I said a "Republican inspired" war and a number of Democrats were seduced by administration lies and misrepresentations to vote aye. When fighting a war on terror against soulless terrorists it's impossible to prevent every death.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:38:44 PM

[L=http://www.rightsidenews.com/2013013131881/us/politics/text deleted on rj - your a big boy now - do some looking yourself - it really isnt that hard[/L]
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>>>Further, we find Secretary Clinton's attempts to shift the blame for the State Department's mismanagement and poor leadership to a lack of funding from the U.S. Congress extremely troubling. Secretary Clinton's own Deputy Assistant Secretary Charlene Lamb testified to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on October 10, 2012 that budgetary considerations played no role in the State Department's refusal to send additional security personnel to Benghazi.

This is not a money problem - it is a leadership and management problem entrenched within the State Department. Last year, instead of ensuring that Americans in high-risk areas had adequate security, the State Department and USAID spent $322,000 to build dog kennels in Iraq, $750,000 to restore a sixteenth-century tomb complex in India, $700,000 to conserve ruins in Tanzania, and $20 million to spark "private sector competitiveness" in Ethiopia. While some of these programs may support U.S. interests in some capacity, shouldn't the State Department consider the lives of American diplomats more valuable when prioritizing funding?

On May 7, 2012, the State Department denied a request by a group of Special Forces assigned to protect the U.S. consulate in Libya to continue their use of a DC-3 airplane for security operations. Yet four days later, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy Chevrolet Volts as part of the "Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe" initiative. We find that these priorities in expenditures in light of the deteriorating security environment in Benghazi a matter that requires full accountability by those responsible.<<<

Here it is RJ. If you doubt it do some looking to prove me wrong.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:12:51 PM

101Speedster - "Why do democrats appear not to care about those four brave Americans that gave their lives serving this country and not to care about identifying the person that denied help to save them?"

Because the whole scandal is a Republican political ploy?
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rjhenn
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flyboyUT - "rj the only problem with the 'they cut the budget' defense is that teh representative of the State Dept said that the budget was not a factor. they also had their priorities messed up. While they were cutting security in Libya they were spending tons of money in places in Europe to get electric cars adn charging stations for the state dept folks there."

What representative of the State Department?

And State, like most federal departments, doesn't get given one amount of money that they can spend as they wish. Congress allocates their budget in separate accounts, which they have to spend for specific purposes. In this case, Congress has been cutting their embassy construction, security and maintenance budget.

"But if those directives were indeed given--and proof has never been produced--they were given long after the attack, not while the attack was going on ...."

Which is obvious from the phrasing of those directives.

"Panetta was also forced to admit, in the face of vigorous questioning by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), that no military action at all had been taken to intervene in Benghazi after the attack had begun, promising only that a similar lapse would not happen again."

There was no military action that could have been taken during the first attack. The nearest US military resources were too far away.

And if Obama had personally overseen events during the event, he'd be accused of micromanaging.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:05:39 PM

I'm going for Libyagate, and mark my words - Obama and Clinton will be proven to be liars AND to have had a hand in the needless and totally preventable deaths of 4 Americans. THAT is the issue, my friends. They asked for help and were denied. But were they denied out of callousness, incompetence, or for a political motivation? That's what needs to be found out, and for it NEVER, EVER to happen again.

Worryfree ignorantly posted: "Why do Republicans care so much about 4 dead Americans when thousands died in meaningless Republican inspired wars (esp. Iraq)??" Then WF posted: "dup"

--Yeah, I think you were duped, my friend, and by your own party!

Here's a list of the Senators from the Democrat side that voted "NAY" to Iraq: . Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR).

Here now, the Republican who voted "NAY" was Lincoln Chaffee of RI, and one indy Sen Jeffords from VT voted "NAY".

So, understand that this means that Sens. Clinton, Kerry, Biden and Leiberman all voted "AYE". So are you now going to "go after" Biden? After all, he voted for it, now didn't he? Or are you going to be hypocritical on the issue? If you go after one side, you have to go after the other, too.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:53:07 PM

seems like hillary is posting on here using someone's name

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ie: what does it matter

[Edited by: jdhelm at 2/10/2013 4:53:20 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:27:03 PM

Worry - will it matter if the loony liberls take he money for security and use it for electric car chargers in Europe?
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:39:14 PM

dup

[Edited by: worryfree at 2/10/2013 2:39:34 PM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:39:08 PM

Why do Republicans care so much about 4 dead Americans when thousands died in meaningless Republican inspired wars (esp. Iraq)??

Let's call this event "Republicannowheregate"

Our embassys need more security. Let's hope the Republican House does not block increased funding for security again.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:34:55 PM

When everyone leads from behind ever farther - nobody answers the phone or even makes the calls.
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>>>Nothing. That is what President Barack Obama did on the night of September 11, 2012, as terrorists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and killed four Americans, among them Ambassador Christopher Stevens. President Obama’s inaction was revealed in testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday by outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey.

Under direct questioning by Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), Panetta admitted that he had no communication with President Obama after their “pre-scheduled” meeting at 5:00 p.m. EDT. The attack on the consulate had already been under way for 90 minutes at that time. Neither the president nor anyone else from the White House called afterwards to check what was happening; the Commander-in-Chief had left it “up to us,” said Panetta.

Panetta’s testimony directly contradicts President Obama’s own claim to have issued “three directives” as soon as he learned “what was going on” in Benghazi. As he told a Denver reporter in October:


I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and that we are doing whatever we need to. Number two, we are going to investigate exactly what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.

That same claim was subsequently repeated by other Democrats, including Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel, who came to the president’s defense. But if those directives were indeed given--and proof has never been produced--they were given long after the attack, not while the attack was going on, during which time the president did nothing.

Panetta and Dempsey also admitted, under questioning by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), that they were not in touch with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the attacks, and did not receive a request for help from the State Department. Dempsey also testified that he had been “surprised” at Clinton’s testimony last month that she did not know of an urgent cable from Ambassador Stevens last August about the dire security situation.

To borrow a metaphor from the 2008 Democratic primary campaign: when the 3 a.m. call came (at 5 p.m. in the afternoon), neither Clinton nor Obama were there to respond.

Panetta was also forced to admit, in the face of vigorous questioning by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), that no military action at all had been taken to intervene in Benghazi after the attack had begun, promising only that a similar lapse would not happen again.<<<

Kind of telling isnt it!

Shall we all scream that it does make a difference!

The difference is because of the failure of leadership at the highest levels people are dying, our state dept facilities are being destroyed and nothing is done before, during or after.


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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:01:51 PM

Why do democrats appear not to care about those four brave Americans that gave their lives serving this country and not to care about identifying the person that denied help to save them?
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:53:34 AM

Pardon the expression but whitewash gate fits pretty well the way most of the media treats it.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 9:22:30 AM

barryfrankmarshallgate
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:01:08 AM

ODSGate.
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:18:00 PM

If the US media has anything to do with it, it will be buried to the back pages.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:00:40 PM

rj the only problem with the 'they cut the budget' defense is that teh representative of the State Dept said that the budget was not a factor. they also had their priorities messed up. While they were cutting security in Libya they were spending tons of money in places in Europe to get electric cars adn charging stations for the state dept folks there.

Now I ask you if you have solid knowledge that an embassy is in danger as proven by prior attacks, emails and memos from the ambassador and calls from security personnel that the needed more and to not cut what they had - which was done by the way - Just what should your priority be.

We already know from what actually happened regardless of what was said. Electic cars and charging stations to make the European facilities "greener" is more important than the lives of people in places like Libya. The Progressive Liberal mantra just keeps on doing its thing and people die because of it.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:53:45 PM

although I've always leaned toward benghazigate - I now favor -

obamagate
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 2:54:22 AM

RogerB - "The negligence that got 4 Americans killed doesn't seem like a game to me."

Whose negligence? Who cut State's security budget?
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 4:00:28 AM

"The politicians are still just playing games. "

The negligence that got 4 Americans killed doesn't seem like a game to me.
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