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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 3:09:32 PM

Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

Is your family better off now than they were four years ago?

Is the country better off now than it was four years ago?

Who do you plan to vote for in the next presidential election?

Do you believe that this is the Obama economy? Or the Bush Jr. economy?

Which presidential candidate do you believe will be more bipartisan if elected? Which candidate will actually be more likely to get something good done for this country?

Will the economy be better four years from now? Will you be better off four years from now?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 1:07:08 PM

Unequivocally. Yes.
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 10:15:38 AM

Workers working numerous part-time, temporary, seasonal and/or underground economy jobs are becoming the new normal.

Even part-time job quality has gone downhill.

We have many relatives that have weeks with 0, 1 or 2 scheduled, or on-call 4 hour shifts.

Four hour shifts are expensive from a transportation and daycare perspective as well.

After taxis, transit costs, vehicle related costs, daycare etc, some weeks they're technically losing money working, hence why many are on numerous forms of welfare.

More and more employers are doing a much better job of matching labor to hourly, daily, weekly, seasonal demand, so they're not "carrying" unnecessary workers.

This is also why many businesses are grossly overstaffed with scheduled and on-call part-timers.

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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 9:32:14 AM

""Now they're unemployed, have zero savings, poor credit, they're driving an unsafe car that wont pass inspection next month and moving to a slumlord rental apartment in a neighboring city.""

Perfect example of Obama Policies in action.
More people put on welfare then jobs created.
More businesses cutting back then expanding.
More part time jobs then full time jobs.
More people opting to pay the fine then pay the exuberant health care rates due to Obamacare.
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 8:53:25 AM

I recently bought a distressed sale home from a couple that said they were "Living The American Dream" only 3 years ago.

They had good jobs, nice cars, nice things, savings etc, plus were living in a nice village between two nice lakes.

Now they're unemployed, have zero savings, poor credit, they're driving an unsafe car that won't pass inspection next month and moving to a slumlord rental apartment in a neighboring city.

Their kids were going to one of the best small school systems in the area. Now (unless they move again) they'll be going to one of the worst school systems in the area (40% dropout rate), plus there are many ex-cons, thugs, drug users and registered sex offenders in this region.

The wife tells me the husband has been extremely depressed and started smoking and drinking.

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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 7:58:31 AM


No.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2013 4:11:07 AM

Ask the topic question of the black citizens in this country if ILLEGAL aliens are given amnesty.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2013 9:34:39 AM

""Now it simply means you're responsible for nothing and EVERY problem you have is magically Obama's fault.""

Obamacare is Obama's, Pelosi's, Reede's & ALL the other freaken Democrats in the House & Senate at the time that could not be bothered to read the bill before they passed it.....ALL because the Anointed one said to
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2013 5:13:51 AM

NO
1.) DOUBLED GAS PRICES DUE TO OBAMA
2.) iNCREASED iNSURNCE COSTS LESS CHOICE DUE TO OBAMA CARE
3.) RESTRICTED FREEDOM DUE TO UNCONSTITUTIONAL "regulations" FROM uNCONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

yeS i AM MUCH WORSE OFF THAN i WAS 4 YEARS AGO .....
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2013 11:52:15 PM

So, RNorm, you are saying that the record numbers of people that are not now working is related to personal responsibility? Or working part time instead of full time, that must be a personal choice?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 12:01:29 PM

"Personal responsibility = Obamacare?"


No.

Personal responsibility USED to mean that YOU are responsible for the choices YOU make and the consequences of those choices. Personal responsibility USED to mean that you were responsible for your well being, regardless of the party of the president and regardless of who controls congress.

Now it simply means you're responsible for nothing and EVERY problem you have is magically Obama's fault.

My, my; how things have changed.

SMH
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 11:52:00 AM

RNorm: "I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility and not blaming someone else for their own situation???"

Personal responsibility = Obamacare?
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 7:40:42 PM

Yes conservatives tend to say one should be responsible for their own lives.

In the last four or five years the price of basic necessities has gone up faster than income. We don't save as much per month now as we did then. However we still save about 23% of income vs 25% of income from back then.

We don't eat out as much and have made other minor changes to reduce spending but I wouldn't say we are better off. Our net value has gone up - but that is because we spend less than we take in. It has little if anything to do with what Obama has done.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 7:28:59 PM

this from another thread - from that OP's Huff Post, if you saw that thread, what you didn't see was the below - you had to click on the link of the bottom of that linked thread to read this:

9 ways Americans haven't recovered from the S&P doubling under Obama:

1. Unemployment
When the economy was roaring in 2007, the U.S. unemployment rate was 5 percent. In January 2013 the unemployment rate was 7.9 percent.

2. Income And Wages
The U.S. median income fell to $50,054 in 2011, which is the most recent full year in which that data is available. That's down 8.1 percent since 2007. Wages also fell to a record-low 43.5 percent of the economy in 2012, according to the New York Times. Meanwhile, corporate profits are still booming.

3. Number Of People On Food Stamps
The number of Americans on food stamps surged to a record in 46 million in June 2012. That's compared to 26.5 million in 2007.

4. Uninsured Americans
More than 16 percent of Americans -- or 48.6 million people -- were uninsured in 2011, according to Kaiser Health News. This number is higher than what it was in 2007, when the share of uninsured Americans was 15.3 percent.

5. Student Loan Debt
The average student loan debt for a class of 2011 graduate was about $26,500, according to the Project on Student Debt data cited by the New York Times. Since 2007, when the average student debt was $23,349, student loan debt has increased for almost every demographic and the size of that debt has gone up as well, according to Pew.

6. Homelessness
In 2011, 644,067 Americans experienced homelessness on any given night, according to data from the National Alliance to End Homelessness cited by NBC News. Though that number is actually down 13 percent from 2007, the decrease is largely attributed to a boost in the number of programs to help keep the homeless off the streets.

7. Children In Poverty
More than 16 million children -- or about 20 percent of American children -- were in poverty in 2011, according to the Census Bureau. That's up from nearly 18 percent of American children in 2007.

8. Homeownership
We're on our way to becoming a renter nation. The homeownership rate in the 12 months leading up to May 2012 was 65.4 percent, according to Census Bureau data cited by CNNMoney. That's the lowest rate in 15 years. In the last quarter of 2007, the homeownership rate was 67.8 percent.

9. Foreclosures
There were 2.7 million foreclosures in 2011. That's up from 2.2 million foreclosures in 2007.

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The HUFF Post goes on to say:
Though Obama has reaped huge gains for Corporate America, his economy hasn’t been as great for us normals. We’re still in the throws of the slowest job-market recovery since World War II, with nearly 12 million Americans unemployed. In addition, wages have largely stagnated and millions of homeowners are still suffering from the housing crash, burdened by owing more money on their homes than they’re worth.
There is also a 10 reason that I'm surprised the Huff Post didn't list:

10. Barack Obama’s First Term – $5.806 trillion increase

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To summarize, the National Debt increased by huge amounts under each of these presidents. However, the largest increase under any President, whether for one or two terms, occurred during Barack Obama’s first term, which saw an increase of $5.806 trillion to the National Debt.

As of the end of President Obama’s first term, the National Debt stands at $16.433 trillion dollars. Current Obama administration projections indicate that the National Debt will increase to over $20 trillion by the end of his second term.

It is clear that the National Debt has been growing uncontrollably in recent years, regardless of which political party has been in power. To reverse this trend, we need to hold our elected officials accountable and demand that they balance the budget and reduce the National Debt.

In all fairness, any particular POTUS cannot claim or say that his administration was responsible for this or that stat. It's obvious that the workings of "pork-barrell congrssional spending on pet projects" has much to do with the lack of fiscal dilligence. Much of, if not most of the overspending has to do with congress who go to Washington and then do not work for the people - but rather for political interests (that many times benefit them over the people they represent).

Congress should have to abide by and live with all the laws, economic choices and bills that they pass. They should not become or go into politics for a lifelong political job. The 2 senators from my home state don't have a clue as to what health care costs, social security benefits, take home pay, everyday living expenses - are for many or most of my neighbors. They claim they do, they claim they visit with their voters - but they have never lived the life. It's pretty easy to discuss and talk about war in VietNam, but unless you were there - you seriously can't say that you know. Unless you can't afford to get treatment for Cancer (unlike most all political congress persons) they cannot really fathom what my neighbor who just lost her husband has gone thru and now faces the fact that she'll likely have to sell her house to pay the medical debt. She's too proud to go get food stamps - unlike a young 23 year old girl in a town 35 miles from here (I know her parents who confide in me) who has 3 kids by 3 different men and lives on govt subsidized housing, food stamps and mooches off her parents and borrows from her friends and smokes cigs and drinks to try to forget her problems.

The S&P and the DJIA has not really improved "normal" individual's lives, and if it has, it's not showing according to the 10 points listed above - from the Huff Post article.

Just my take, perhaps it's so much better where the rest of you live. Good for y'all.
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greentre
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 7:22:13 PM

Norm,

Did you read what you wrote?

"Again, I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility and not blaming someone else for their own situation???"

How would a statement of condition that a person has no control over (ie. "induced HIGH GAS PRICES and a frozen salary which is being reduced by increased costs from obama care") be attributed to personal responsibility?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 7:02:47 PM

Again, I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility and not blaming someone else for their own situation???

I guess that's all just empty talk?

LOL, um ok.

SMH
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 6:31:56 PM

ditto for me wbacon
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wbacon
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 6:03:56 PM

no, not with obama induced HIGH GAS PRICES and a frozen salary which is being reduced by increased costs from obama care
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 5:35:56 PM

The 2d term will be the real train wreck construction in Chicago slow! Definitely not better off!
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 1:44:23 PM

Do you trust the IRS more now than you did four years ago?

Or are you one of the 46% of Americans that does not know about that scandal?

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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 9:31:48 AM

I'm physically stronger than I was 4 years ago.

Many people have gained fat, lost muscle and have poor endurance as they've been unemployed, under-employed, depressed etc.
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07skydriver
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2013 10:39:02 PM

Getting stronger every day.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2013 10:06:57 AM

What?
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plastic
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 1:48:57 AM

What the hell, 101?
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:26:32 AM

Getting desperate to keep you topics alive 101?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:12:53 AM

Less money coming in and the cost of everything is more.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 11:50:02 AM

Yeah, like they run the post office and the IRS.

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 2/8/2013 11:50:31 AM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 11:49:19 AM

Hey Speedy and Mjames - not to worry.

The feds want to take over the management of your retirement savings to save you from yourself. They will 'help' you do a good job of protecting your savings. Just like they managed the budget adn SS accounts.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 11:41:05 AM

>>The income doesnt spread as far these days. Food, fuel, utilities and everything else costs more.<<

Wait until you see what happens when the Fed Chairman Bernanke stops keeping interest rates low.
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 9:52:15 AM

Many locals are making more money, however the small or modest increases in pay haven't kept up with real inflation - gas, diesel, heating oil, kerosene, propane, rent, property taxes, cable, internet, entertainment, professional services, insurance, water/sewer etc.

You should see the looks on customers faces when they get bills, or quotes for professional services...

We have more and more walk-a-ways and red tagged furnaces, boilers, water heaters etc as many people can't afford maintenance, repairs or replacement.

Many of my tenants are paying $300 plus more for rent than a few years ago - not including stealth increases such as no longer including heat, hot water, laundry hook-ups etc in the rent.Many of my property taxes are thousands more per year than they were several years ago.

I'm amazed at how much simple things like paper towels, paper plates, shop towels, industrial towels, chemicals, cleaning agents, nitrile gloves etc have scaled in price.

We're constantly shopping new suppliers for better prices.

Many replacement parts are so expensive that we can't mark them up much, if at all.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 1:35:03 PM

Still living on less than our income. The income doesnt spread as far these days. Food, fuel, utilities and everything else costs more.

We have reduced our spending on things not really necessary. We are making our 12 and 13 year old car/truck last longer - not even thinking of replacing them. Cancelling vacation trips.

Enough people do what we are doing and it has serious effects on the economy as a whole.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 1:15:32 PM

I don't think Bell30012 was flying so I don't think he was using a rental car.
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greentre
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:16:35 PM

101, "Air fares are part of what is hurting people's vacation budgets" Have you seen what car rental agencies are doing to their rates? They still advertise the $20/day rate but they add on another $50 or more in administration fees and taxes. Take a two day trip and your rental used to be $50 with taxes etc. Now it's closer to $100 for the same period. That hurt my vacation budget!
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:13:10 PM

prices up especially gasoline my pay has stayed static
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:10:59 PM

>>People are unable to afford to travel to vacation destinations, so I'm taking my daughter to Walt Disney World yet again<<

Are you driving your car? Air fares are part of what is hurting people's vacation budgets. Jet fuel prices.
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 10:40:43 AM

I'm far better off now than I was four years ago. However, the reasons that I'm better off are based upon the detriment of others due to this economy. Due to choices that I've made over my life, I have no debt. Someone else didn't pay for their house and I was able to snap it up in a foreclosure. People are unable to afford to travel to vacation destinations, so I'm taking my daughter to Walt Disney World yet again... The rates are too good to pass up. Never before has WDW offered Premium Annual Passes at $300 off!

A few more years of this type of economy and I'll be in great shape.
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 9:42:29 AM

I'm hanging in there. I see so much, or hear of so much bad stuff on a weekly (sometimes daily basis) that I've become somewhat immune to it.

On the topic of doing better, just this morning I had a call from a competitor with around 1,200 regular customers that's calling it quits.

They offered to give us much of their inventory and equipment, all of their service contract holdings, plus refer all current and future customers if we'd hire some of their existing employees and cover their service contracts.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 3:05:22 PM

That's kind of depressing, MarkJames. Hang in there.
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 9:50:50 AM

Everyone in our immediate family is better off, however most of our non immediate family is much worse off.

Many lost homes, lost jobs, had vehicles repossessed, were evicted from homes/apartments, lost driver's licenses and started drinking and doing drugs due to hopelessness and depression.

One committed suicide, another attempted suicide and others are suicidal.

Several of our customers committed suicide in the last few years as well due to the ripple effect of financial issues - joblessness, separation, divorce, depression, foreclosure, repossession, drinking, drug use etc.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 6:18:55 PM

Yep but its no thanks to Obama.

We still have zero debt. We still live on less than our income. We still keep investing in solid investments that pay a fair return plus increase in value.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 5:48:14 PM

>>I hope they can get those pesky wars paid for before they have to retire.<<

Why is that, skydriver?

>>At least they won't have to worry about another republican president in the near future to start any more.<<

Are you saying, skydriver, that we won't be able to pay our military personnel soon?
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 5:41:54 PM

I hope they can get those pesky wars paid for before they have to retire. At least they won't have to worry about another republican president in the near future to start any more.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 11:51:40 AM

Good news, 07skydriver, because Obama needs to keep borrowing from your grandkids so that he can pay for Obamacare and all of his other handouts for the 47%ers.
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07skydriver
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 9:54:52 AM

since 2008? Yup
I have three new grandkids and
my kids all make more money than me, (and they don't spend it all on junk)
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:42:24 AM

it's much higher according to this source
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:41:13 AM

101Speedster - The "official" unemployment rate today is 7.8%. Same as four years ago.

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ummmm-m-m-m
Updated 1/04/2013

U-6 Unemployment Rate is 14.4%
The unadjusted U-6 unemployment rate is up from November when it was 13.9% but down from December 2011 when it was 15.2%.

The U-6 unemployment numbers agree with the “adjusted U-3? typically quoted unemployment rate that something is fishy with the calculations. The U-6 unemploymnet rate in January 2009 when Obama was sworn it was 15.4% with an average civilian non-institutional population in 2009 of 235.801 million and 136.288 million people employed. Today the U-6 unemployment rate is supposedly 14.4% but the population is higher ( 244.350 million) and only 134.822 million people employed. The numbers don’t add up! The number employed and the unemployment rate can’t both go down unless the population goes down as well (which it didn’t!). See the Current Unemployment Rate for more information.

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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:28:46 AM

Panama: "Is the nation better off now than it was $7 trillion dollars ago?"


Our 7 trillion dollars just bought us more takers and more democrat voters, which is exactly what it was designed to buy.



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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:25:33 AM

It was a little over four years ago that candidate Obama said it would be unpatriotic to raise the debt ceiling.
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:18:32 AM

The lay-offs from Christmas have not hit the unemployment rolls yet & they still don't include people like me that fell off the rolls. I was laid off at the end of 2009 & fell off the rolls so the answer is "NO I'm not better off now than I was 4 years ago!"

The country has more people on Welfare & Food Stamps than ever before. I'm not one of them because I'm old enough to take early SS that I earned over my almost 40 yrs. of working & putting money into it so, I would not qualify.Only those who are too lazy to work & want to live off the government qualify now!
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:07:43 AM

The "official" unemployment rate today is 7.8%. Same as four years ago.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 12:02:31 PM

Unemployment rate, state by state
Not all states are feeling the jobs recovery equally.

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