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no1doc

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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 7:12:57 PM

Bishop E.W. Jackson Message to Black Christians

"It is time for a mass exodus of Christians out of the Democrat Party…

My friends, the Democrat Party and their progressive coalition have become anti-God, anti-bible, anti-church, anti-family, anti-marriage, and anti-life. They have turned their backs on Christians.

It is time to turn our backs on them."

~ Bishop E. W. Jackson, founder and current president of S.T.A.N.D.
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So what do you think? Is it time?
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AnotherOne
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Passer, "The fact that you can't tell the difference between us proves you have much work to do..."

Ahhh, not only are they UNprejudiced, they are humor challenged.

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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 1:46:18 PM

"When you can get past your prejudice long enough to talk to me, let me know."

You will be waiting a very long time.
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 1:23:28 PM

"Ahhhhh yes, the UNprejudiced Passer and Iammeca!"

Good point, A1. Everyone is prejudiced to some degree. But if you read your bible, it puts a premium on "discernment"!

The fact that you can't tell the difference between us proves you have much work to do in that area and cheapens whatever conclusions you think you can come up with especially since you do not fully understand the details that lead up to your faulty conclusions.
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ROTFL

Ahhhhh yes, the UNprejudiced Passer and Iammeca!

That is rich!

ROTFL

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Passer
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 12:45:27 AM

"When you can get past your prejudice long enough to talk to me, let me know."

In Christian terms it seems the devil will be Saved, and his hell frozen over long before A1 gets past his prejudices, IammeCA.
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AnotherOne
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Passer, Barack W. Obama, Democrats and you are all one and the same.

Simple enough for you?

Or are you now running from W. Obama and Democrats and liberals?

If you are, maybe there is hope for you.

;-)

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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 12:01:21 AM

"Iammeca, it is SO HARD to tell one liberal from another!"

I realize that A1, judging from how it is so hard for you to distinguish the President from other...


Democrats,

yeah that's the ticket...










[Edited by: Passer at 11/8/2014 12:02:40 AM EST]
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"We must above all show charity to our enemies. By this you may know that a man is a true Christian, if he seeks to do good to those who wish him evil."

-- St. Alphonsus Liguori
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"Be assured that abuses are done away with by teaching rather than by commanding. If we make threats, let it be done sorrowfuly, in the words of Scripture, and in terms of the world to come. In this way it is not we who are feared because of our power, but God because of our words."

-- St Augustine
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ROTFLNorm: "And this is why the topic stalls and goes comatose -- people trying to make everything and every post personal, rather than discuss the issues/ideas made in a post."

But noooooooooooooo.... You'd NEVER do that, would you?

SMH

*ROTFL*

WAM!
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MiddletownMarty
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"In the full interview, she says they can have fried chicken after they vote."

Fried chicken IS soul food. So is mac & cheese, cornbread, collard greens, and fried okra.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2014 2:43:13 PM

"As to my mission work and the reasons for my leaving. That is private, if it helps you to believe that it wasn't really Christian service and that I was never really a Christian go right ahead."


And this is why the topic stalls and goes comatose -- people trying to make everything and every post personal, rather than discuss the issues/ideas made in a post.
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no1doc
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2014 2:39:22 PM

For all you voters who actually think it's important to study a candidate's record and position on the issues, here's the First Lady's message for black voters on election day.
...

from the link: "... this isn’t about Barack. It’s not about the person on that ballot, it’s about you.”... “a Democratic ticket is the clear ticket that we should be voting on regardless of who said what or did this, that shouldn’t even come into the equation.”
...

She seems to be making the case for Rev. Jackson's OP statement,
"..they think we're stupid."

In the full interview, she says they can have fried chicken after they vote. In fairness to her, the host did set her up for that comment.
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 12:09:11 PM

"Iammeca, it is SO HARD to tell one liberal from another!"

That's twice in a row that you used that excuse. Not much use in talking to someone who only talks to "a liberal" and not to an individual. When you can get past your prejudice long enough to talk to me, let me know.


[Edited by: IammeCA at 11/3/2014 12:10:18 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 12:03:54 PM

reb - I always vote for the best candidate. I really pay no attention to the letter behind the name. However one should also look at the positions of the political party and see if their stated objectives and ideas and actions align with what you think is the proper way to do things.

FYI reb - "conservation" means wise use of resources. If a Prius does what you need done in terms of transportation then using the vehicle that is cost effective is a conservative decision. I used to drive small cars that got good mileage and were cheap to maintain until I needed a vehicle that can comfortably and safely tow a six ton RV. Then I bought the vehicle that best met those needs at the least cost - it happened to be a 3/4T DMax GMC 4X4 truck.
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:51:10 AM

Anotherone, all I meant was islam have missionaries...
Buddihist's have missionaries...

I had a sales manager that didn't want his sales people to try to be "missionaries" (sell new technology to people that were not interested in it)... Iammeca seems to not want to tell any additional details... so not worth discussing further... Flyboy, I think people should vote for the candidate... I personally am independent. of course I am conservative (though I drive a Prius).
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:50:12 AM



Iammeca, it is SO HARD to tell one liberal from another!

ROTFL

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IammeCA
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:41:04 AM

"Just like when you falsely claimed that my God is an "ANGRY GOD"!"

You must again be confusing me with someone else, as I have never said that.
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:39:23 AM

The most reasonable scene is the leaders of the Democrat party have abandoned the teaching of the Christian faith. Therefore the people who think them self followers of this set of beliefs should not continue to provide support for this party.

How can you say you believe one thing in church but act in a manner that is opposed to what you say you believe in church?

You who choose to call yourselves Christian but also profess to be Democrats do whatever it is you think best.
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AnotherOne
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Sorry, Iammeca, for unintentionally calling you Passer.

All you liberals look alike.

lol

"As to my mission work and the reasons for my leaving. That is private, if it helps you to believe that it wasn't really Christian service and that I was never really a Christian go right ahead."

I never said it wasn't as a Christian missionary.

I just asked you a simple question which would shed light on why you are now so anti-Christian.

But if you don't want to come clean with your biases, that is up to you.

And it is up to us to draw logical conclusions from that.

Simple enough?

Just like when you falsely claimed that my God is an "ANGRY GOD"!

ROTFL

My God is a loving and forgiving God.

He could even forgive you for what ever it is that you have done to so turn you off to His Love.

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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:27:19 AM

You might want to try to keep straight who you are talking about. I am not Passer. I never claimed not to be an atheist. Humanist/agnostic is probably closer but atheist will do. The technical term is apostate.

As to my mission work and the reasons for my leaving. That is private, if it helps you to believe that it wasn't really Christian service and that I was never really a Christian go right ahead.
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reb4, "Anotherone, there are missionary's that are not christian..."

BINGO!

I agree with you, reb4.

That is why I keep asking the question of Passer.

Passer said, "I realize that listening may not be a strong point to some, A1.

You are (again) mistaken if you think I am an atheist (I realize that you lump everyone you disagree with into the same evil bag that you destine to your hell, but thankfully, your world differs from reality in many ways).

So tell us Passer, which "god" is your god?

Sorry, Master Inquistior, He is not your angry god. So send me, gleefully to your hell, any trial (and Judgement) of yours has a predestined verdict and matters not what I say."

"I mentioned my mission work in response to Anotherones implication that I had never tried Christianity not as an attempt at justification through works. "

So Passer implies that he was a "Christian missionary" for 30 years and had "tried Christianity but that he is no longer a Christian and that Christians have an "angry God".

But like most liberal Democrats, he seems incapable of answering a simple question.

reb4, why is that? And why is Passer apparently unwilling or incapable to answer a simple question?

;-)



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 11/3/2014 11:09:10 AM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 10:50:47 AM

Anotherone, there are missionary's that are not christian...

Had a person that wanted me to go to his service... Was willing to do so if he would come to mine... didn't happen...






Here is more information ... from another site with a longer video of events leading up to the booing at Democratic National Convention....

[Edited by: reb4 at 11/3/2014 10:51:18 AM EST]
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AnotherOne
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Hey Panama!

How are you buddy?!

I agree with you.

AND, it is also significant that they did it (voted) THREE times.

Wasn't there someone else that did it (denied) three times?!

smh

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AnotherOne, "MTMarty, mexicomaria is right on"

Who are you gonna believe, MTMarty or your lying eyes"

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"From "The Screwtape Letters..."


A very profound book that I've read several times...
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Iammeca, "And before AnotherOne makes another snarky comment, I think I am at least as qualified to speak about Christianity as he is to speak about Islam."

All I ask of you, Iammeca, is for you to be honest about where you are coming from.

You say you are not an atheist. But you won't tell us what you are.

Then you say you were a missionary for 30 years.

So something bad obviously must have happened to turn you off to Christianity so much.

But you won't tell us that either.

You are more than welcome to comment on Christianity.

Just be honest about where you are coming from when you do and what those "qualifications" are.

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From "The Screwtape Letters" Chapter 7

“Whichever he adopts, your main task will be the same. Let him begin by treating the Patriotism or the Pacifism as a part of his religion. Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part. Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely part of the ‘Cause,’ in which Christianity is valued chiefly because of the excellent arguments it can produce in favour of the British war effort or of pacifism.”

In the 1960's Social Justice and poverty could easily be substituted for Patriotism and Pacifism now a days it's gay marriage and abortion.

And before AnotherOne makes another snarky comment, I think I am at least as qualified to speak about Christianity as he is to speak about Islam.
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MTMarty, mexicomaria is right on.

The fact that you cite Democrat talking points does nothing to change the facts.

And the fact that you attack her with "A Christian who persists in spreading such lies does terrible damage to her own witness and, more importantly, to the name of Christ. You know better, and still you lie. It's a terrible thing to give one's politics favor over Him." is beyond the pale even for you!

The delgates BOOED putting God into the Democrat platform and saying that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

You can run from the facts, MTMarty, but you can't hide.

The Democrats BOOED God.

And they BOOED Israel!

SMH

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Interesting and sad how some still persist in proclaiming to know who is who isn't a Christian, when the Bible is pretty clear that we shouldn't be doing that:

" Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury" (Romans 2:1-8)
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"IF, and I say if, you are a Christian you should reflect Christ and the Words of God."

Read the ninth commandment much?
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 3:08:38 PM

mexicomaria, "I am just plain astonished that one Party in the USA booed God at their national convention.

A Christian who persists in spreading such lies does terrible damage to her own witness and, more importantly, to the name of Christ. You know better, and still you lie. It's a terrible thing to give one's politics favor over Him.

See for yourself



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 11/2/2014 3:11:00 PM EST]
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mexicomaria, "I am just plain astonished that one Party in the USA booed God at their national convention. We are talking about God here....God of the Jew, God of the Muslim, God of the Christian, God of the Hindu......and one convention booed God."

And everyone needs to remember that when we vote on Tuesday!

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I can call myself a toad stool....does that make me a toad stool....

That is why I think it is important to look at what value God placed on life....not man, God. How wide was his value of life? That will give you some idea of how God feels about abortion.

Man can do and say whatever he wants....this is nothing new to man. Some even make platforms about what they believe in a group. Some boo God at their conventions.. It matters not what one does or says. IF, and I say if, you are a Christian you should reflect Christ and the Words of God. Don't assume you know what God's Word says until you study it in its entirety.

I am just plain astonished that one Party in the USA booed God at their national convention. We are talking about God here....God of the Jew, God of the Muslim, God of the Christian, God of the Hindu......and one convention booed God.
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"... it seems indisputable that the Democratic party has adopted as fundamental, ongoing platform positions, 2 profoundly anti-Christian stands: the right to an abortion, and the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples."




Yes GTH, it does seem to me hard to believe that some would choose to ignore the sanctity of life as well as the redefinition of marriage. Which for anyone that has listened to the original link, was what the Bishop E.W. Jackson presented....

[Edited by: reb4 at 11/2/2014 2:31:04 PM EST]
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"Again we run up to the difficulty of defining Christianity."

It's not that hard, really. A Christian believes in Christ as the means of forgiveness to all who repent and as the source of power to change so as to conform to God's law.



"There are many Christians who do not see those as anti Christian stands"

There are things that are perfectly legal in a civil sense, from which Christians, nevertheless, must abstain in order to be true to their faith.
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 1:57:42 PM

GTH: "...it seems indisputable that the Democratic party has adopted as fundamental, ongoing platform positions, 2 profoundly anti-Christian stands: the right to an abortion, and the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples."

IammeCA: "Again we run up to the difficulty of defining Christianity. There are many Christians who do not see those as anti Christian stands."

That's not as hard as it sounds. Many who call themselves Christian who accept those Democratic positions, are fuzzy at best on core Christian beliefs, such as the divine nature and bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ.

GTH
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Iammeca, "Again we run up to the difficulty of defining Christianity. There are many Christians who do not see those as anti Christian stands."

Especially those who claim to once having been Christians.

And now see themselves called to lecture real Christians on what real Christianity is.

ROTFL

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"2 profoundly anti-Christian stands: the right to an abortion, and the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples."

Again we run up to the difficulty of defining Christianity. There are many Christians who do not see those as anti Christian stands.
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 11:25:06 PM

"Interesting that this topic is still going on."


The detours and side roads that the topic takes make it worthy of discussion and continued conversation; even if the present discussion has nothing to do with the OP...

My two cents.
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Interesting that this topic is still going on.

Despite the protests of professed Christians and liberal sympathizers MiddletownMary and RNorm (the latter I believe is actually a minister), it seems indisputable that the Democratic party has adopted as fundamental, ongoing platform positions, 2 profoundly anti-Christian stands: the right to an abortion, and the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples.

That should make it difficult for Christians to vote Democratic. I don't think I could vote for a Democrat, at any level, unless that Democrat were actively fighting against those 2 positions.

And I say that with sorrow. Our democracy is stronger with 2 viable parties whose positions at least broadly overlap and which can be acceptable to Christian beliefs.

GTH
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Passer, ""All members of another political party must change to my party or go to hell"."

So who said that Passer.

No one that I have seen here said that ... except for you and maybe some other liberals.

ROTFL

Apparently your 'god' is someone who condones LYING!

ROTFL

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"I ask Passer who his god is..."

ROTFL

And still he cannot answer a very simple question.

As we have seen with so many Democrat candidates who will not answer a simple question of if they voted for/support Obama, so it is with Passer and other Democrats.

Is it a genetic thing with liberal Democrats that makes them unable to answer the simplest question?

This Democrat "non-answer gene" apparently is very closely related to the Democrat "Dishonesty Gene"!

ROTFL

Remember this kind of Democrat dishonesty and inability to be truthful about the smallest things when you vote on Tuesday!

ROTFL

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 3:37:35 PM

"I ask Passer who his god is..."

He is Someone you do not know and will not recognize. But to give a hint, He does not need me to say in His name, "All members of another political party must change to my party or go to hell".

That would be to insult Him but, again, He is One that is beyond your recognition, Master Inquisitor.



[Edited by: Passer at 11/1/2014 3:38:12 PM EST]
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"btw, it was MTMarty that told you your 30 years of missions work meant nothing."

Actually, nobody said that.

I quoted the Apostle Paul, who said "And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing." --1 Corinthians 13: 3



"Because He is a very LOVING and FORGIVING God. Not the "angry god" that you refer to."

Jonathan Edwards would be most surprised to hear this.
Sinners in the hands of an angry God, Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), Enfield, CT





Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. --Matthew 7: 15-20
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ROTFL

Why is it that liberals have such a hard time answering even the simplest questions?!

ROTFL

I ask Passer who his god is since he claims he is not an atheist and therefore he must have one.

But he won't answer a simple question.

I halfway expected him to say "Well, since Obama is not on the ballot here .... yadda yadda"

ROTFL

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Passer, so since you now claim you have a 'god' and that you are not an atheist, would you please tell us which god it is?

Thanks in advance.

;-)

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 2:50:47 PM

Passer, "You are (again) mistaken if you think I am an atheist"

"Where did I ever say you were an atheist?" A1

"Didn't know you had one from what you have said." A1




Most reasonable people can conclude that if "one doesn't have a God" it is not a huge leap to assume that they can and do conclude that they assume you are an atheist.



You also misquoted, "I realize that listening may not be a strong point to some, A1."

My words were more general and you changed that from the above to:

"I guess 'listening is not your strong suite'!"

a direct affront to the chip on your shoulder? LOL


There IS a difference between "some people" and "you".




[Edited by: Passer at 11/1/2014 2:58:17 PM EST]
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Passer, "You are (again) mistaken if you think I am an atheist"

Where did I ever say you were an atheist?

I guess 'listening is not your strong suite'!

ROTFL

btw, you apparently do not know ANYTHING about "my" God.

Because He is a very LOVING and FORGIVING God. Not the "angry god" that you refer to.

So once again you are totally wrong.

ROTFL

And once again liberals illustrate how they claim to know so much but they know so very little.

;-)



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 11/1/2014 2:42:15 PM EST]
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What political party should a Christian belong to? Be an “Outdependent”.
A term from another blog.

oDemocrat?, Republican?, Whig?, Federalist?, Bull Moose?, Libertarian? Tippecanoe and Tyler Too?

oA good response to this question is the following, by another writer: And I agree with this thinking.
Forget all the above, and just be an independent. Webster says an independent is not subject to control, influence, or persuasion of any central point, but relies on oneself to decide and act the way he/she determines the situation

When we hear the question, “What political party would Jesus belong to if He walked the face of the earth today?”

oThat`s an easy question to answer. He would not belong to any political party, because He didn`t come into the world to be a statesman.
"For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him."(John 3:17).

o Jesus didn`t give a hoot whether Palestine was under Roman rule with a corrupt puppet royalty on the throne, or whatever.

o No, Jesus would not be categorized as an independent either. He did nothing on His own. John 5:30,"I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me." And John 12:49,"For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself Who sent Me has given Me commandment, what to say, and what to speak."

oJesus alluded to His "political “position to Pontius Pilate in John 18:36,"Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting, that I might not be delivered up to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."

o So, what Jesus was saying that He was "in the world", but not "of the world"; the same thing we believers say. As a certain song goes - "This world is not my home, I`m just a`passin` through."(on my way Home).

o Stuart Hamblin the singing cowboy wrote “This old house”

o But, while we`re here, the Bible gives us a blueprint of God`s life-framework. Initially, we are to allow the Holy Spirit to produce His nine fold fruit within our beings. This will help us to become good citizens, bringing God glory. Good citizens vote. So yes, let`s vote for who we perceive to be the right candidates for office.

oThat brings us back to the question - What political party should a Christian support?

oI submit that Christians should not be locked-in to any political party; and that includes being called an "Independent".I further submit that we can echo Jesus` words, "My kingdom is not of this world."

o Therefore, it appears Christians should take the stand of being (are you ready for this?) = OUTDEPENDENTS.

We need to devote more time, energy, and resources, to God the Father, God, the Son, and God, the Holy Ghost. We should focus on Divine Beings outside this world, which are permanent, rather than placing our hopes on the political slippery slopes of most elected officials.
Here is a newsflash in case you haven`t seen it in your Bible :
It doesn`t matter how eloquent, qualified, personable a candidate is; or check this - how much money is spent on a campaign, God chooses who He wants where, and when anyway. Please check John 19:11, Romans 13:1, Isaiah 45:7, and Amos 3:6 God created all things and remains in total control of all things.
A person might say, "Hey! If God is going to put in who He wants, why should I even bother to help or vote for anybody?"

Well, God doesn`t have to explain His actions or allowances to anybody. In faith, we do our part as His children. In this case, our part is to vote and pray.

o Obviously, this country has had ups and downs since 1776 with many different people at the helm of government. As human beings we prefer the good times to the bad times, and we are sometimes convinced we know who should be in office. Let's vote with right motives, VOTE, and trust the all WISE, GOOD, MERCIFULL, GRACIOUS , OMNIPOTENT GOD.


[Edited by: borsht at 11/1/2014 2:42:37 PM EST]
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Iammeca, "I mentioned my mission work in response to Anotherones implication that I had never tried Christianity not as an attempt at justification through works. "

And we are still waiting for you to tell us what kind of a 'mission' you were part of for 30 years before it apparently dawned on you that Christianity was a fake. [btw, it was MTMarty that told you your 30 years of missions work meant nothing.]

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