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no1doc
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 7:12:57 PM

Bishop E.W. Jackson Message to Black Christians

"It is time for a mass exodus of Christians out of the Democrat Party…

My friends, the Democrat Party and their progressive coalition have become anti-God, anti-bible, anti-church, anti-family, anti-marriage, and anti-life. They have turned their backs on Christians.

It is time to turn our backs on them."

~ Bishop E. W. Jackson, founder and current president of S.T.A.N.D.
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So what do you think? Is it time?
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2015 1:33:10 PM

"The best natural smoke you ever tasted" Mike Wallace interviews Sanger

If you don't want to watch the whole interview, at least catch the intro.
Got a chuckle watching Mike turning pages holding a lit cigarette, doing a promo for Philip Morris, his favored smoke. But, half way trough the interview, you can hear Mike discuss Natural Law. How times have changed. Now teens can get free contraceptives without their parents' knowledge but, no smoking allowed. At the end of the interview, Sanger says she never smoked but, she's going to take it up and will smoke Philip Morris.

Light up and enjoy.



[Edited by: no1doc at 4/1/2015 1:38:59 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2015 11:23:31 AM

Thanks for explaining that A1. Always best to read and understand before posting. Be well.
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Cliffisher, "Hate blacks much doc?"

You don't read or understand, do you?

no1doc is QUOTING the words and beliefs of Margaret Sanger, the founder and patron saint of Planned Parenthood!

You remember PP.

The god of liberals.

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2015 10:57:42 AM

the NATIONAL BLACK PRO-LIFE UNION

“they are…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ’spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” MARGARET SANGER
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2015 10:52:20 AM

Hate blacks much doc?
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"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
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"I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered." (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)
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no1doc, one of the founding principles of Planned Parenthood by Margaret Sanger, was to rid the nation of undesirable blacks!

Unfortunately that is NOT an April Fool's joke!

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"The Democrat Party has created an unholy alliance between certain so-called civil rights leaders and Planned Parenthood which has killed unborn black babies by the tens of millions. Planned Parenthood has been far more lethal to black lives than the KKK ever was. And the Democrat party and their black civil rights allies are partners in this genocide."

E.W. Jackson

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"The Negro cannot win if he is willing to sacrifice the future of his children for immediate personal comfort and safety."

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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THANK YOU, no1doc!

I will check them out.

It is NO surprise that the radical left wing Democrats from here in Minnesota would be handmaidens for PP and homosexual special rights!

Collin Peterson is one who has fought his own Democrat party on many issues.

It is surprising he stays in the Democrat Party. Now that they have lost all their power, he may change or quit. He almost did not get elected this last time.

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 4:32:52 PM

Here you go A1. The first link gives a list of all Congressmen. In the second link you have to click state by state.

Homosexual Rights Campaign Congressional Scorecard
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Planned Parenthood Congressional Scorecard

In Minnesota both senators and 4 representatives get 100% from PP - all democrats. Collin Peterson, a democrat gets only 20%. The republicans get zeros and one 7% rating.

[Edited by: no1doc at 3/31/2015 4:41:13 PM EST]
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no1doc, you could do everyone around here a GREAT service by listing the names of some of those politicians who meet that criteria.
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 12:01:47 PM

I won't pull the lever for any sitting politicians with 100% ratings from Planned Parenthood or the Homosexual Rights Campaign. For Christians posting here that do, what specific issues are non-negotiable for you?

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 5:27:50 PM

"--Much earlier in this thread I offered that concession you seek, do you not recall?"
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You weren't the only one EZ, and some more than once.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 5:27:42 PM

"--Of course I didn't hear Jackson say leave the democratic party for the republican one, I heard him simply state that a Christian should reconsider their affiliation with the democratic party with the number of anti-Christian sentiment within it. There are several other options, including having no party affiliation! (Such as a person like myself)"


Which I have likewise done over 30 years ago...
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At least we can agree on cutting congressional benefits, including taxpayer funded retirement and Cadillac health care.
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Marty: <<<"The scripture I quoted clearly struck a nerve. Good... good.">>>

--The feeling is mutual my friend! ;)

San Bernardino: <<<"But until I see ONE honest republican acknowledge the hypocrisy of their own party (rather than the usual avoidance of it), then I'm going to continue to point it out.">>>

--Much earlier in this thread I offered that concession you seek, do you not recall?

<<<"And some of those same issues are in the GOP (or another party), then you're leaving the pan and jumping into the fire.">>>

--Of course I didn't hear Jackson say leave the democratic party for the republican one, I heard him simply state that a Christian should reconsider their affiliation with the democratic party with the number of anti-Christian sentiment within it. There are several other options, including having no party affiliation! (Such as a person like myself)
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If we can afford to wage wars on credit, then we should pay for the care of those who fought those wars...even on credit if we have to...Or maybe we should cut congressional benefits to offset the cost of leaving veterans benefits alone...

Its really simple. And its pathetic that republicans are the first to talk about going to war and also the first to slap veterans of said wars in the face by cutting their benefits...
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 5:01:09 PM

"I'm going to vote for the person I think will best accomplish what my position is on the issue before me."
...

Voters always have many issues to consider. What kind of country we leave our grandchildren has far more lasting consequences for an entire generation than whether or not a veteran with non-service related injuries will get free treatment at the VA today. The latter can change tomorrow in a budget committee, the former cannot.
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"Do you agree or disagree with that statement?"


Again, I left BOTH parties long ago. So it doesn't matter to me what one party says about the other, or what their platforms and/or planks are.

I'm going to vote for the person I think will best accomplish what my position is on the issue before me.

As I said earlier, I don't simply dismiss people because they don't pass the abortion litmus test as most conservatives do, as there are many more issues than just the single issue conservatives harp on. For instance, republicans are always talking about "supporting the troops" but since they've controlled the house, have been the FIRST ones to cut Veterans benefits -- why is that? How can you be for the troops when you're cutting their support and benefits???

And there are many more issues just like that. Which is probably why Jackson lost his election, because people have many more concerns than the ones that you and your pals demonize democrats over.
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no1doc, "A1, the prayer warriors giving public witness for the little ones about to be scraped from their mother's wombs in our local abortion mill hear this occasionally from the proabortion "escorts". As though we're supposed to believe that God doesn't want us praying there. After all, that's where they kill the babies."

I FULLY support you praying there. You are NOT doing it for show.

As liberals around here are prone to do.

And as the Pharisees were well known for doing.

Good for you, no1doc.

And it does not surprise me that those liberals who do not believe in Scripture would wantonly throw it around trying to silence you.

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 1:58:42 PM

"My friends, the Democrat Party and their progressive coalition have become anti-God, anti-bible, anti-church, anti-family, anti-marriage, and anti-life. They have turned their backs on Christians"
...

Do you agree or disagree with that statement?
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“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."
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A1, the prayer warriors giving public witness for the little ones about to be scraped from their mother's wombs in our local abortion mill hear this occasionally from the proabortion "escorts". As though we're supposed to believe that God doesn't want us praying there. After all, that's where they kill the babies.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 1:16:12 PM

"The discussion is supposed to be about the Democrat party. You have yet to play any part in that discussion."


No, the discussion is supposed to be about the Bishop and his reasons for why people should leave the Democrat party.

And if they're leaving for these reasons (the bishop's words):

"My friends, the Democrat Party and their progressive coalition have become anti-God, anti-bible, anti-church, anti-family, anti-marriage, and anti-life. They have turned their backs on Christians"

And some of those same issues are in the GOP (or another party), then you're leaving the pan and jumping into the fire.

Unless some believe that the GOP (their party of choice) is without sin and casting stones at all other parties...
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Norm, "When in fact, the entire discussion has been about what the parties are doing at a national level"
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The discussion is supposed to be about the Democrat party. You have yet to play any part in that discussion.

[Edited by: no1doc at 3/30/2015 1:13:19 PM EST]
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MTMarty, ""...And when you quote scripture here, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to quote biblical passage and verse, without understanding it is guidance for your soul and not just something cool to say."

The scripture I quoted clearly struck a nerve. Good... good."

It DID!

It gave a first hand illustration of hypocrites standing on the street corner quoting Scripture trying to look spiritual.

And instead only looking like a hypocrite!

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 12:52:44 PM

"A kicker would have no idea where to place the ball."


You mean like when y'all said its only a few "rinos" that were embracing the things you were demonizing in democrats, and then when I showed that it was a great number of people in your party doing that, then it was well we're looking at the local level? When in fact, the entire discussion has been about what the parties are doing at a national level (i.e., planks and/or platforms)>

And you say the goalposts haven't been moved??

C'mon Doc.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 12:45:31 PM

Before you accuse anyone else of "changing the goal posts", you might want to read your last post. A kicker would have no idea where to place the ball.

Forget the question.
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"Let's drop the line that none of us have ever done so. "

Many of you have NOT done so, but have changed the goalposts repeatedly when I point out issues with the GOP; and then go back to that old standby, "well they [i.e., democrats] booed God".

All political parties serve themselves, that is just the reality. And to think that the Republican party is "God's Own Party" as so many republicans have tried to do is simply nonsense. If Jackson is saying its time to leave the Democrat party, then ok, do that. But don't try to get me to believe that the Republican party is the promised land that the great exodus is taking people to, because its not.

Now if you want to be there, great. But again, I'm an independent and will vote for democrats and republicans as I see fit, based on the issue before me and who I feel is the best person to effect what I think should be done on a certain issue.

Unlike many here, I'm not a single issue voter, i.e., that abortion litmus test.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 11:46:14 AM

Norm, "And you say I evade simple and direct questions???

Again, Jesus would not belong to ANY political party; we know that even if you can't bring yourself to say it."

...

Yes Norm, we do all know that. It's a rhetorical question that doesn't need answering. But, since you bring it up, I have no trouble saying it:

.....Jesus would not belong to ANY political party.....doc
...

Still waiting for your answer to:

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doc, "What DO you, or any Christian, call it when a political party doesn't want God mentioned in their platform?
***********

All Republicans are sinners and the party has many hypocrites, myself included. There...I said it...I've acknowledged it (again). Let's drop the line that none of us have ever done so.


[Edited by: no1doc at 3/30/2015 11:50:30 AM EST]
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"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal."

~ Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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"He'd certainly condemn the notion that a mother has a "right" to end the God given life in her womb or, that His Father's purpose in creating man and woman to become one flesh can be redefined."


And you say I evade simple and direct questions???

Again, Jesus would not belong to ANY political party; we know that even if you can't bring yourself to say it.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 10:55:54 AM

"Would Jesus be a member of either party?"
...

E.W. Jackson, "We don't need the Democrat party or any party! We need God! God will take care of us. It's been a long time coming, but the time has come to take a stand. Come out from among them! Exodus now!"
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 10:24:34 AM

"Would Jesus be a member of either party?"
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He'd certainly condemn the notion that a mother has a "right" to end the God given life in her womb or, that His Father's purpose in creating man and woman to become one flesh can be redefined.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 10:03:46 AM

That's the right link for Dolan's prayer Reb. The second one isn't working today. It linked me to a distasteful SNL video about "The Rock Obama."
Remember when that show was actually funny?
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 9:42:20 AM

"It seems to me that "all who are in authority" covers all political persuasions. Vote for the candidate of your choice, but If you are a Christian, pray for the winner."


Amen and again I say, Amen!!
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"I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,…"

--1 Timothy 2: 1-3.

It seems to me that "all who are in authority" covers all political persuasions. Vote for the candidate of your choice, but If you are a Christian, pray for the winner.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 7:26:28 AM

"...And when you quote scripture here, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to quote biblical passage and verse, without understanding it is guidance for your soul and not just something cool to say."

The scripture I quoted clearly struck a nerve. Good... good.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 7:46:33 PM

"Would Jesus be a member of either party?"


LOL, don't think so...

[Edited by: reb4 at 3/29/2015 7:46:45 PM EST]
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No1Doc, I had to search for the video and I think I found it here....

Cardinal Timothy Dolan Admonishes Democrats on Abortion, Religious Liberty


I thought nothing wrong with this public prayer...

I guess the services that some of the Christians here go to they don't have public prayer in their service...

I have been to service (Mass) at Catholics and I do know there are prayer in public...

I think some services I have been to there are at least 5 if not more public prayers in our services... Thank you No1Doc.




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"Would Jesus be a member of either party?"

A resounding NO.
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"You're better than that."


Yes I am.

But until I see ONE honest republican acknowledge the hypocrisy of their own party (rather than the usual avoidance of it), then I'm going to continue to point it out.

And yes, the Original Post is about leaving the democrat party for its issues, but for the posters here to continue to defend the GOP as if their party is the only and superior alternative, when in fact it has different but similar sin issues, then my pointing out that hypocrisy is actually on point in response to the OP.

And the fact that you and others continue to give the GOP a free pass (or excusing dismissives, i.e., well they're just RINOs), proves my point about hypocritical republicans over and over and over...
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 7:25:53 PM

doc,"What DO you, or any Christian, call it when a political party doesn't want God mentioned in their platform?
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Norm, "And what do you, or any Christian call it when a political party mentions God in their platform, but its members, in large numbers, embrace those things that God says do not???
....

Since this thread is about Jackson's question, and the first question above is a direct quote of his (the "or any Christian" was added my me), and "droning on" about Republicans is just avoiding Jackson's question, please take some time, really reflect on the question, and give a thoughtful, serious answer to the question, "What DO you, call it when a political party doesn't want God mentioned in their platform?" And at least this one time, please answer directly, without invoking the Republican Party or any Conservatives posting here. You're better than that.
...

If you'll do that, I'll be happy to answer your question.




[Edited by: no1doc at 3/29/2015 7:28:34 PM EST]
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"My kingdom is not of this world."

--John 18:36

Would Jesus be a member of either party?
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"...And when you quote scripture here, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to quote biblical passage and verse, without understanding it is guidance for your soul and not just something cool to say."


Actually, I understand that knowing and quoting scripture is BOTH guidance for your soul AND something cool to say. And the Bible confirms that:

"PREACH the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching" (2 Timothy 4:2)

ke¯rysso¯ - to publish, proclaim, as a herald (1 Cor. 9:27); to announce openly and publicly (Mk. 1:4; Lk. 4:18); to noise abroad (Mk. 1:45; 7,36); to announce as a matter of doctrine, inculcate, PREACH (Mt. 24:14; Mk. 1:38; 13,10; Acts 15:21; Rom. 2:21). [Mounce]
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EZExit, AMEN!!!

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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 6:37:17 PM

...And when you quote scripture here, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to quote biblical passage and verse, without understanding it is guidance for your soul and not just something cool to say. Truly I tell you, love one another as I have loved you.
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Ahhh yes!

We immediately have MTMarty "praying on the street corner" to be seen by all and to show everyone how much better he is than them.

SMH



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 3/29/2015 6:15:19 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 6:12:33 PM

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."


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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 6:05:34 PM

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."


Amen and indeed!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 5:59:40 PM

It's old news but pertinent to this discussion:
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Cardinal Dolan Admonishes Democrats on Abortion, Religious Liberty...The full text of his prayer starts immediately below the video.
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For those who still pretend the drive by media isn't in the tank for Democrats, "The only networks respectful enough to show the prayer in its entirety without interruption was Fox News, Fox Business and C-SPAN. ABC, CNN, and PBS kept it in background while talking over it. MSNBC completely ignored it, cutting the audio feed to let their pundits share their opinions without distraction. CBS and NBC returned to local news affiliates as soon as he began." according to NewsBusters. - See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ryan-robertson/2012/09/07/text deleted till con't
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They did the same thing with the Mia Love speech at the Republican convention. Didn't fit the racist Republican myth.
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