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KnoxGasPriceSpy

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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2012 2:50:56 PM

What is your opinion on Obama?
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 4:55:57 PM

spit, rj never made a point... that was just his opinion...I reckon... s744 was DOA when it was sent to the house.... pretty much like all the bills that were sent to the senate and reid would sit on them ...it's politics and that's how they play it...
and let rj speak for himself.... I don't think he needs any help from the 'peanut-gallery'.... thanks buddy...
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 12:10:04 PM

"deflecting ? spit that's all you ever do here....sorry buddy.."

Is there a reason why you won't comment on the point that was made?
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 12:06:36 PM

Why does Obama continue to elevate a person like Rev. Al Sharpton and seek his counsel for the next Attorney General as well as calling him a trusted advisor? He owes 4.5 million in taxes yet he is welcomed over and over again into Obama's inner circle. Sociologists refer to him as a racial arsonist. How can anyone respect or like a president that surrounds himself with people like Sharpton?
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 11:32:02 AM

deflecting ? spit that's all you ever do here....sorry buddy..
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 10:35:24 AM

"is the point, read it, study it !... or just go ahead and act like your avatar picture..."

You are deflecting - why won't you acknowledge the point made?

"a lot better than the media always trying to pull us apart...."

Seems like plenty of people here doing a good job at that without any need to be influenced by the media.
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 10:06:08 AM

FlyBoy..Great Cartoon you added..I believe the Emeritus of the US is gonna try and do just that..Sell the People some more of his BS...Amnesty for illegal immigrants! The thought of it upsets me almost as much as the Amnesty awarded Draft Dodgers and Deserters during the Vietnam War...That idiot is attempting to tear down the US..I'm disgusted by him..
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 9:12:20 AM

"Not that I expect it to change anyone's mind, but whoops, there goes the Benghazi attack point."this tells me , that the system does work.... a lot better than the media always trying to pull us apart....
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 1:19:11 AM

Not that I expect it to change anyone's mind, but whoops, there goes the Benghazi attack point.

[Edited by: rjhenn at 11/22/2014 1:19:36 AM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 1:17:37 AM

KnoxGasPriceSpy - "that bill never became law... again.. Article I : delegates all law making authority to Congress alone. Section 8 – the Enumerated Powers of Congress delegates all authority over Immigration and Naturalization rules to Congress alone as well."

Exactly, but Congress, in particular the House, is refusing to even look like it's doing it's job. The mess continues because the Republicans, who control the House, want the mess to continue.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 10:20:45 PM

spit..... ( Article I : delegates all law making authority to Congress alone. Section 8 – the Enumerated Powers of Congress delegates all authority over Immigration and Naturalization rules to Congress alone as well. )...

is the point, read it, study it !... or just go ahead and act like your avatar picture...
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 8:51:30 PM

Hating him more than ever...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 8:15:45 PM

"that bill never became law..."

So you missed the point made?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 8:14:31 PM

"you're talking ancestry"

So are you. It was just easier to become a citizen historically... You just got on a boat and stopped at Ellis Island. Or came in undocumented through Canada. This is not a new phenomenon.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 7:18:07 PM

"The Senate passed a bill last year, but the House has totally ignored the issue."...

that bill never became law... again.. Article I : delegates all law making authority to Congress alone. Section 8 – the Enumerated Powers of Congress delegates all authority over Immigration and Naturalization rules to Congress alone as well.
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 7:16:47 PM

Ditto
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 6:35:39 PM

I don't
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 5:49:09 PM

KnoxGasPriceSpy - "There is nothing in Article II of the U.S. Constitution granting the Oval Office the power to usurp, subvert or ignore the laws of the United States as established by Congress."

The Senate passed a bill last year, but the House has totally ignored the issue.

Isn't that exactly what the Republicans have been complaining about?

Except, of course, they blame the Democrats in the Senate for everything.
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 5:46:48 PM

I75at7AM - "But how do we get a "clarification" of the 14th? A court case? Court cases take years."

Perhaps start with legislation the intent of which is to clarify what that references US v. Wong Kim Ark as precedent. Then let the court cases fly!

Might need to go as far as another amendment, but not necessarily.

"Issue: "Does the 14th Amendment grant citizenship to individuals who happen to be born on US soil if neither parent is a US citizen?"

That was the intent, since slaves, even freed ones, weren't considered citizens. I just think that changing times require clarification, since present day circumstances weren't even conceived of back then. I'm not even sure that it was possible to be here illegally; the concept didn't exist outside of invading armies.
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 5:37:36 PM

Now this explains it all.....
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 5:23:21 PM

Article I : delegates all law making authority to Congress alone. Section 8 – the Enumerated Powers of Congress delegates all authority over Immigration and Naturalization rules to Congress alone as well.

There is nothing in Article II of the U.S. Constitution granting the Oval Office the power to usurp, subvert or ignore the laws of the United States as established by Congress.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 5:08:16 PM

"So then we should all be British (or whichever nationality our ancestors were when they got off of the boats)..."

didn't say that, spit....you're talking ancestry... now go back and read it again... try to comprehend it this time... oh brother... just wondering spit, what is/was the nationality of your parent/parents...? my parents were U.S.Citizens... :P
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 2:43:06 PM

Top 10 Lies from Obama's Nullification Speech Print By: Daniel Horowitz

“The one [a president] can confer no privileges whatever; the other [the king] can make denizens of aliens, noblemen of commoners; can erect corporations with all the rights incident to corporate bodies.” – Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 69

"Make no mistake about it. Obama’s illegal amnesty will not just apply to 5 million individuals. It will apply by default to all 12-20 million illegals in the country as well as the millions more who will now come here to enjoy the permanent cessation of borders and sovereignty."

[Edited by: johnsell at 11/21/2014 2:45:51 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 2:35:50 PM

"I believe that the child should take the citizenship of the parent / parent's nationality, no matter where the child is born..."

So then we should all be British (or whichever nationality our ancestors were when they got off of the boats)...

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 11/21/2014 2:36:22 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 2:30:46 PM

Trey Gowdy Eviscerates Obama Administration for Working With ‘Insomniac with Tourette’s Syndrome’

"When Van Susteren asked the congressman what he thought should happen, now that the words of the man who created the rationale that the Obama administration and many Democratic lawmakers used to sell a flawed healthcare program to the American people are out in public, Gowdy simply said:

“When you have an insomniac with Tourette’s syndrome, you don’t interrupt him. So we’re going to let him keep talking, as long as he will talk.”
Perhaps Congress will get a chance in the next session to let him do just that."
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 2:16:58 PM

I believe that the child should take the citizenship of the parent / parent's nationality, no matter where the child is born...
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 1:53:27 PM

Thank you for the clarification rj and I agree, but I'm sure it will not be easy to attain such a ruling.......
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 11:57:37 AM

"Issue: "Does the 14th Amendment grant citizenship to individuals who happen to be born on US soil if neither parent is a US citizen?"....

That is the assumption.... but it's never been ruled on....
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 11:31:27 AM

I agree.... always thought that...

rj does hit the nail on the head..... (every) once in a while....
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 11:21:28 AM

To your last post, rjhenn, Amen!

But how do we get a "clarification" of the 14th? A court case? Court cases take years.

I wish there were a process to have an issue, in general, brought before the SCOTUS, and get a ruling.

Issue: "Does the 14th Amendment grant citizenship to individuals who happen to be born on US soil if neither parent is a US citizen?

Answer please!
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 1:36:29 AM

johnsell - "Paul Calls For House Resolution And Lawsuit Against Obama Actions"

One of the first things that needs to be done is to clarify the 14th Amendment to make it clear that birthright citizenship only applies to those born here where at least one of their parents are here both legally and with an intent to remain here.

That would exclude illegals, temporaries and tourists.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 1:30:26 AM

TuNnL - "Clearly, you FAILED History 101, rjhenn. There was NO SUCH THING as a Southern Republican at the time!"

Having difficulty understanding the word "still"?

"at the time" is now!
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 11:35:49 PM

In an major scientific discovery, scientists discovered the first person with two buttholes. For Barack 0bama, the one he was born with, and the one that Ben Shapiro ripped for him tonight.

"On Thursday night, President Obama delivered his address to the nation on his executive amnesty. It was historic, both in its scope and in its dishonesty: the speech represented a closely-woven and incredible tapestry of falsehood, exposited with a straight face by the greatest liar in modern American history."
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 7:51:49 PM

On Nov 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM, rjhenn wrote:

>>> TuNnL - "Perhaps illiterate libs who can’t seem to grasp that a REPUBLICAN freed the slaves to the dismay of Democrats at the time?"

No, actually, they're mostly Southern Republicans. <<<

Clearly, you FAILED History 101, rjhenn. There was NO SUCH THING as a Southern Republican at the time! Click the link below, and educate yourself...

Political Map at the time President Lincoln was Elected
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 4:04:25 PM

Jon Stewart Calls Out Not-Emperor Obama’s Powerlust By Pointing Out Something He’s Overlooked
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 3:10:32 PM

Paul Calls For House Resolution And Lawsuit Against Obama Actions

"(The Hill) - Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Wednesday night that the House should pass a resolution opposing President Obama’s immigration executive action, setting up a lawsuit against him.

“What I would recommend to the House is they should immediately pass a resolution saying that what he is doing is contrary to the will of the House of Representatives,” Paul said on Fox News. “That would set up, I think, a very clear-cut case in the court.”
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 1:22:12 PM

The words of Cicero powerfully relevant 2,077 years later. #StopObamasAmnesty
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 12:40:50 PM

I wonder if obama's speech will detract attention from what is going on in Ferguson or will what's going on in Ferguson detract attention from the obama's speech? I guess timing is everything.
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2014 11:36:45 AM

PegasusAT, >>MahopacJack, how many times have you seen President Obama say he just found about a problem, when an issue comes up that makes the administration look bad?<<
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I , and i suppose many others, have come to expect it as a first response to all problems that confront the Chief Executive. It shouldn't be, especially since the internet has evolved where we could look up facts (and some bogus stories as well) to refute or substantiate such claims with just a click of the 'return' button.

Because of this, I'm also of the opinion he is nowhere near as smart his supporters claim him to be. He simply should know better but then, old habits are difficult to change.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 11:03:24 PM

MahopacJack, how many times have you seen President Obama say he just found about a problem, when an issue comes up that makes the administration look bad?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 6:34:32 PM

even "This Guy" could be a better POTUS than Obama
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 4:52:12 PM

looks like ya got one TuNnL....;)
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 4:38:03 PM

TuNnL - "Perhaps illiterate libs who can’t seem to grasp that a REPUBLICAN freed the slaves to the dismay of Democrats at the time?"

No, actually, they're mostly Southern Republicans.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 4:37:04 PM

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[Edited by: jdhelm at 11/19/2014 4:37:59 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 4:19:48 PM

On Nov 18, 2014 at 9:24 PM, rjhenn wrote:

>>> Yet there are still those who obsessively hate Lincoln. <<<

Perhaps illiterate libs who can’t seem to grasp that a REPUBLICAN freed the slaves to the dismay of Democrats at the time?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 1:50:28 PM

theTower - "Under Obama, we "feel" less free than the french feel"

Partisanship-fueled paranoia will do that.

Note, for example: "The U.S. had its lowest ranking when it came to safety and security (a broad measure of how threatened citizens feel in instances such as walking late at night....", despite violent crime levels being at near-50-year lows.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 11:30:09 AM

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My last post should have read, "I partially agree. He is definitely NOT the Messiah. He is definitely NOT like most Presidents. The one that comes closest is Jimmy Carter who, in my estimation, did not deliberately deceive people. As for comparing him to the Devil, I wouldn't want to make any agreement with either. Neither should you."

I added the emphasized word "NOT" and an additional comment to Weasel's prior post of, "He is not The Devil. He is not The Messiah. He is a President, like any other…"

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[Edited by: MahopacJack at 11/19/2014 11:30:53 AM EST]
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 10:56:31 AM

Under Obama, we "feel" less free than the french feel.....

well, we are forced to buy from a third party by our wonderful government...
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 10:37:56 AM

" He is a President ".... when is he going to start to act like one..?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 10:09:24 AM

Weasel, >>He is not The Devil. He is not The Messiah. He is a President, like any other…<<
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I partially agree. He is definitely NOT the Messiah. He is definitely like most Presidents. The one that comes closest is Jimmy Carter who, in my estimation, did not deliberately deceive people. As for comparing him to the Devil, I wouldn't want to make any agreement with either.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 9:23:09 AM

"He is a President, like any other..."

Under Obama, we "feel" less free than the french feel
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