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KnoxGasPriceSpy

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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2012 2:50:56 PM

What is your opinion on Obama?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 4:10:08 PM

"pretty busy little hand-full of 'subset' there, spit..."

It only takes one person to start a fire...
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 4:09:03 PM

Justice, Ferguson style…

BUSINESSES LOOTED AND BURNED:

St.Louis Fish & Chicken Grill
Family Dollar
Dollar Tree
O’Reilly’s Auto Parts
Beauty Mart
A.J. & R. Pawn Shop
Walgreens
FedEx
Cakes and More [Natalie DuBose’s store]
JC Wireless
AT&T
STL Bread Company
Conoco
Auto Buy Credit
Phillips 66
McDonald’s
Red’s Barbecue
Taco Bell
CVS
Beauty Town
Little Caesar’s
Ferguson Liquor
Public Storage
Sam’s Meat Market
Medicine Shop
Commerce Bank
Auto Zone
Toys R Us
Amoco
Quiznos
Dellwood Market
Chop Suey restaurant
TitleMax
Antonio French’s Heal Stl Community Center....

pretty busy little hand-full of 'subset' there, spit...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 1:21:14 PM

"got any real numbers..? or is that your opinion ..?"

Reports linked on the Ferguson thread from reporters on the ground indicated a hundred or so...
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 1:13:09 PM

"That is a very small subset of the Ferguson population..." .....

got any real numbers..? or is that your opinion ..?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 12:58:32 PM

"Really? Have you not seen the vandalism, rioting, looting, and arson in Ferguson?"

That is a very small subset of the Ferguson population...

"I assumed the president was talking to those inclined toward violence."

True - and those few bent on bad behavior looking for an excuse to act out clearly didn't listen.
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 12:06:26 PM

"I would say a vast majority took his advice..."

Really? Have you not seen the vandalism, rioting, looting, and arson in Ferguson?

Folks who are not inclined toward violence (most of us) did not need any presidential advice about keeping the peace. We do that with or without a presidential speech. I assumed the president was talking to those inclined toward violence.

[Edited by: SE3.5 at 11/25/2014 12:09:44 PM EST]
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 11:49:12 AM

but not the feral ones....
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 10:56:34 AM

"He made a speech asking for peace and calm last night. Not many took his advice."

I would say a vast majority took his advice...

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 11/25/2014 10:56:41 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 9:34:06 AM

A Law Enforcement Perspective on Obama's Lawlessness

11-20-14

from Dan Bongino's blog

Bongino says so eloquently what I am thinking.

" . . . are we a country of laws or just laws of convenience where "convenience" is only determined by those holding the stick of power?"

"If your response to the presidential address is to avoid the difficult questions posed by it and to default to easy political responses such as "Bush did it" or "Reagan did it," without any deeper consideration of what the "it" they did was, then we are rapidly approaching the point of no return. Even a cursory review of historical Executive Orders on immigration would clearly demonstrate that tonight's promulgation by the president is an unprecedented grasp for power. Remember history teaches us that the evaporation of personal liberty as the power of government grows, has always been accompanied and aided by groups of people who blindly swear allegiance to political labels, rather than political ideas, in the short-term lust for power."

"What has always made the United States different is our institutions, the unbiased application of the rule of law, and legal recourse for those who have had their civil liberties violated. When that legal system breaks down, our institutions are used for political, rather than public-service functions, and entire categories of law are subjected to the discretion and whims of power-hungry government officials" . . .

[Edited by: mweyant at 11/25/2014 9:35:07 AM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 8:58:08 AM

He made a speech asking for peace and calm last night. Not many took his advice.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 8:55:41 AM

""House passes tough immigration bills that President Obama calls 'extreme and unworkable'"

So the House paid the issue lip-service for campaign purposes... Lesse if a 'realistic' measure will be forthcoming in the next year.
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 1:56:08 AM

MahopacJack - "House passes tough immigration bills that President Obama calls 'extreme and unworkable'"

Thanks.

So, basically, they've ignored the issue until very recently, including totally ignoring the bill the Senate passed last year.

And now they want to attack the problem by swinging wildly with a sledge hammer.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 1:49:12 AM

<continued>
3. Clarify the 14th amendment use of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" to mean that at least one of the parents has to be here legally and with the intent of staying here permanently. That ends the practice of people coming here as tourists just so their child can be born a US citizen. It would also cut down on the anchor baby problem.
4. Establish that you must be a citizen or permanent resident alien to be eligible for welfare or government assistance of any kind.

These, or similar steps, will reduce the incentive to come here illegally, which will make it much easier to secure the border.

[Edited by: rjhenn at 11/25/2014 1:50:11 AM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 1:40:36 AM

MahopacJack - "So Rj, what would be the 'several things' you think we NEED TO TRY before securing our borders?"

I've posted these, or variations, before, probably even in this topic.

In no particular order:
1. Fine anyone who employs an illegal $1,000 per calendar day per illegal.
2. Establish a new tempworker visa, with limited numbers. First choice for the first year would go to those who have been here for at least a year, have a steady job and no criminal record. After the first year, you would have to apply from outside the country.

I recently saw an interesting alternative proposal to these two. Sell green cards for $50,000 apiece, cash only (I'd also require passing a criminal background check). And, if an employer is caught hiring an illegal, he gets to buy a green card for that employee on the spot.

<continued>

[Edited by: rjhenn at 11/25/2014 1:44:31 AM EST]
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:35:46 PM

rjhenn, >>Which is why we need to do several things before trying to secure the borders.<<
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in reply to my post, ""I think a good comparison would be trying to put a garden hose on an outside faucet while the water is gushing our. Difficult and in some cases impossible to do. Without controlling who is coming in, much less who is already here, any immigration law are simply unenforceable."

So Rj, what would be the 'several things' you think we NEED TO TRY before securing our borders?
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:31:19 PM

Weasel, >>I haven't seen any Bill from the House that was killed by the Senate. Can you link it? <<
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"House passes tough immigration bills that President Obama calls 'extreme and unworkable'

"As the great-grandson of an Italian immigrant, I'm proud that America is a nation of immigrants, however, we are also a nation of laws," said new House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-Jefferson. "The House is the only body that has done its job and shown real leadership in solving this crisis by securing the border and enforcing the rule of law."
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 4:50:38 PM

"What he failed to mention was the House passed an immigration bill but the Harry Reid (a member of Obama's own party) ignored it. Unfortunately for those who have contempt for Fox News, they are kept in the dark about this and many other issues."

The Senate passed a Bill that was killed by the House. Congress has kicked the can long enough...

I haven't seen any Bill from the House that was killed by the Senate. Can you link it?
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 4:42:58 PM

MahopacJack - "What he failed to mention was the House passed an immigration bill"

Which bill was that?

"According to polls, most Americans are pro immigration. Where the issue becomes problematic is one side wants to control the borders while the other wants open borders."

I don't see "open borders" as at all workable.

"I think a good comparison would be trying to put a garden hose on an outside faucet while the water is gushing our. Difficult and in some cases impossible to do. Without controlling who is coming in, much less who is already here, any immigration law are simply unenforceable."

Which is why we need to do several things before trying to secure the borders.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 4:40:09 PM

lpatti1 - "OBOZO HAS DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY & HE'S GONNA MAKE IT WORSE WITH HIS IMMIGRATION CRAP!"

Sorry, but posting it in caps doesn't make it true. Half the problem BO has had (besides being less than competent) is he's been trying to dig us out of the hole that Bush and the Bush-era Republican Congress put us in.

"This is a dictator that thinks he is above the law and until we put a stop to him he will continue his endeavor to destroy America,"

What amazes me is that we see complaints, like this one, that BO is doing too much that is outside his authority, then he'll get the blame for not doing other things that are outside his authority.

Often from the same people.

Then there's the truism that one shouldn't blame something on malice when incompetence suffices.

"Congress needs to grow a pair and make a believer out of him and impeach his ass and get him out of our White House!"

Congress needs to grow a pair and do its job, instead of standing around sticking their heads up each others' ....
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 3:05:22 PM

Weasel, >>'Something' needs to be done. If this 'decree' actually gets Congress to have meaningful dialogue on the subject it is a step in the right direction on a subject that has been kicked down the road far too many times - by both parties.<<
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In a seemingly unrelated topic regarding this Adminstration relying upon the stupidity of the American voter, it appears Obama is reinforcing the Administration's view of us. With his previous statements that he could not do immigration reform unilaterally in mind, he then does act unilaterally and blames 'Congress' for the usurpation.

What he failed to mention was the House passed an immigration bill but the Harry Reid (a member of Obama's own party) ignored it. Unfortunately for those who have contempt for Fox News, they are kept in the dark about this and many other issues.

According to polls, most Americans are pro immigration. Where the issue becomes problematic is one side wants to control the borders while the other wants open borders. I think a good comparison would be trying to put a garden hose on an outside faucet while the water is gushing our. Difficult and in some cases impossible to do. Without controlling who is coming in, much less who is already here, any immigration law are simply unenforceable.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 2:45:09 PM

"and obama could of done this when he had both houses, like obamacare..."

If anything should have been done when Obama had control of Congress, it was addressing the economy rather than failing with his Cap&Trade initiative and Obamacare - but rather naively, he was trying to follow-through on his campaign promises rather than adjusting to the immediate needs of the country. Immigration wasn't even on the radar during that time.

"I don't believe side-stepping our Constitution is the way to do it...spit..."

Right, wrong or indifferent - If it generates meaningful discussion, it is a victory. Let the SC strike it down if it is invalid - but Congress needs to do 'something'.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 1:14:49 PM

I don't believe side-stepping our Constitution is the way to do it...spit... and obama could of done this when he had both houses, like obamacare...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:27:14 AM

"What is your response to obama's lawless decree...?"

'Something' needs to be done. If this 'decree' actually gets Congress to have meaningful dialogue on the subject it is a step in the right direction on a subject that has been kicked down the road far too many times - by both parties.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:25:47 AM

"s744 was DOA when it was sent to the house.... pretty much like all the bills that were sent to the senate and reid would sit on them ...it's politics and that's how they play it... ".... so quit trying to play games here, your smarter than that... I hope.. have a good day, buddy"

That is (was) simply another deflection because you don't want to admit that the Senate 'actually' attempted to do something in this instance, which was ignored by the House. The point being that 'both' sides have been very adept act ignoring legislation...

Have a good day.
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:08:36 AM


Obozo is an idiot!

"lpatti1" is right! It's WAY past the time for impeachment!
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:04:10 AM

for you spit..."What is your response to obama's lawless decree...?"
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 10:59:50 AM

I guess you missed this but you only pick out bits and peices...." s744 was DOA when it was sent to the house.... pretty much like all the bills that were sent to the senate and reid would sit on them ...it's politics and that's how they play it... ".... so quit trying to play games here, your smarter than that... I hope.. have a good day, buddy...
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 10:50:33 AM

dream-on spit...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 9:31:14 AM

"spit, rj never made a point... that was just his opinion..."

No, I wasn't just his opinion.

"and let rj speak for himself.... I don't think he needs any help from the 'peanut-gallery'.... thanks buddy..."

You seem to be getting uncomfortable with my asking why you won't address a simple point made?

Keep deflecting though, buddy.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 9:14:59 AM

We all know that rj... I'm sure the lefties enjoyed the palin stories they posted.. chill buddy... ;)
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 9:01:46 AM

I dont really want to seam harsh, but its Past the time for impeachment! OBOZO HAS DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY & HE'S GONNA MAKE IT WORSE WITH HIS IMMIGRATION CRAP! Save  1 lousy Liberal Senator? OBOZO IS UNREAL!
This is a dictator that thinks he is above the law and until we put a stop to him he will continue his endeavor to destroy America, Congress needs  to grow a pair and  make a believer out of him and impeach his ass and get him out of our White House!
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 12:50:14 AM

Which story is sourced by "The Daily Currant", which is "an American satirical news blog that focuses on politics, technology, and entertainment. A number of its satirical stories have been taken for true news reports by press."

Apparently the ODS afflicted have been pwnd.

Again.
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:56:25 PM

lol, I know, it is unreal and brings a smile to many folks. I got this notice from a retired Army buddy of mine. Anyhow the story is on many web sites, and on the link, here's part of the story: -
When completed, the Barack Obama Memorial Landfill will be the largest waste disposal site in North Dakota, and the 17th largest in the United States. It will be especially rich in toxic waste from the local petroleum and medical industries.
“We wanted to do something to honor the president,” says Republican State Senator Doug Perlman, who was the lead sponsor of the bill. “And I think a pile of garbage is a fitting tribute to Obama’s presidency.
“We originally planned on naming it after a nearby mountain. But then someone jokingly suggested we name it after Obama. I never thought and idea like that would actually pass. But I was pleasantly surprised.”
The president is hardly popular in North Dakota. The most recent poll in December 2013 found that Obama has a 35% approval rating in the state, although that figure may have fallen further in the year since. Yet even considering the political climate, seasoned observers are surprised that two Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill’s passage.



[Edited by: jdhelm at 11/23/2014 11:57:18 PM EST]
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:09:57 PM

((( the Barack Obama Memorial Landfill )))....

too funny....
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 9:02:17 PM

ODS = Obama's Dumb S#!+$ - he gets an "honor" bestowed on him.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 7:33:03 PM

And the ODS continues.
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 4:36:09 PM

He's a constantly lying cuss...They need to tell it to him to his face....disregarding everything he says as a lye.
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 4:27:21 PM

Knox..Lawless Decree...Do you think perhaps in the back of his mind that he's trying to legalize his own immigration status?
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 4:24:34 PM

Must we tolerate this for another TWO years? Hoping and Praying someone or Something can put the Emeritus or is that the Emirate (in his own mind) out of our Misery!
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 4:17:14 PM

Ditto, FlyBoyUT. Jimmy Carter can now exhale!
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 7:01:52 AM

He's trying to destroy our country, he's just got two years left. These will be 8 wasted years for us...
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 9:37:06 PM

My opinion has not changed - he will go down in history as the worst president to ever sit in the oval office.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 9:27:17 PM

What is your response to obama's lawless decree...?
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 4:55:57 PM

spit, rj never made a point... that was just his opinion...I reckon... s744 was DOA when it was sent to the house.... pretty much like all the bills that were sent to the senate and reid would sit on them ...it's politics and that's how they play it...
and let rj speak for himself.... I don't think he needs any help from the 'peanut-gallery'.... thanks buddy...
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 12:10:04 PM

"deflecting ? spit that's all you ever do here....sorry buddy.."

Is there a reason why you won't comment on the point that was made?
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 12:06:36 PM

Why does Obama continue to elevate a person like Rev. Al Sharpton and seek his counsel for the next Attorney General as well as calling him a trusted advisor? He owes 4.5 million in taxes yet he is welcomed over and over again into Obama's inner circle. Sociologists refer to him as a racial arsonist. How can anyone respect or like a president that surrounds himself with people like Sharpton?
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 11:32:02 AM

deflecting ? spit that's all you ever do here....sorry buddy..
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 10:35:24 AM

"is the point, read it, study it !... or just go ahead and act like your avatar picture..."

You are deflecting - why won't you acknowledge the point made?

"a lot better than the media always trying to pull us apart...."

Seems like plenty of people here doing a good job at that without any need to be influenced by the media.
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 10:06:08 AM

FlyBoy..Great Cartoon you added..I believe the Emeritus of the US is gonna try and do just that..Sell the People some more of his BS...Amnesty for illegal immigrants! The thought of it upsets me almost as much as the Amnesty awarded Draft Dodgers and Deserters during the Vietnam War...That idiot is attempting to tear down the US..I'm disgusted by him..
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2014 9:12:20 AM

"Not that I expect it to change anyone's mind, but whoops, there goes the Benghazi attack point."this tells me , that the system does work.... a lot better than the media always trying to pull us apart....
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