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KnoxGasPriceSpy

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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2012 2:50:56 PM

What is your opinion on Obama?
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:55:19 AM

Thanks for your post, Weas. Didn't see it before I replied again. I don't know, I live close to the Beltway area, and can just about tell you where Obama is purported to be without trying to find out because he naturally gets tons of coverage here. I think he could squeeze it in. I think it would mean something to those kids with whom he could talk. For me, it would give him some credibility, which I'm afraid is not there, in my case.
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:45:09 AM

5 immigration issues Central American leaders will raise with Obama

7-24-14

They are meeting with President Obama on Capitol Hill with all its comforts. Obama will still not get to talk to the kids.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:37:56 AM

"Thousands of children who don't have the comfort of family and friends . . . is a disaster."

And I wholly encourage the leaders of their countries to come visit to see them first-hand!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:37:13 AM

"(can I call ya' Weas'?)"

Absolutely ;)

"The President can't possibly totally comprehend what is happening unless he sees for himself and talks to actual immigrants and takes notes"

I am pretty sure he comprehends 'exactly' what is going on, which is why he was talking 'amnesty' for so long...

"and then takes that information back with him to work with legislative groups on both sides of the aisle(not just the ones with whom he agrees)."

Which has been the problem fro the beginning. Both sides are so far apart as to how the problem should be addressed, no compromise can be reached.

"Wearin' my heart on my sleeve here."

And it is incredibly sad what these kids have endured, which the governments of their own countries ought to be addressing...

"This is so serious--I don't feel that sending anyone in his place is a good alternative measure."

I simply don't see spending a couple of hours at The Border having 'any' impact on the current gridlock in Congress which is where the root cause of the problem lies and where the corrective actions must take place. Bush visited back in '06 or so, and nothing has changed. It takes more than a visit from a dignitary to enable reform.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:34:24 AM

Thousands of children who don't have the comfort of family and friends . . . is a disaster.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:30:50 AM

"Feel the same way about Bush and Katrina???? He sure took a lot of heat for the fly over..."

So a natural disaster affecting Americans through sudden losses of their homes (etc) which was unavoidable and tragic is being compared to the lack of Immigration reform by Congress?

Since the immigration disaster originated in Congress, perhaps Obama should visit Capitol Hill rather than The Border?

So much empty rhetoric...
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:29:23 AM

Not tryin' to be ignorant or disrespectful, Weas(can I call ya' Weas'?), but I actually did address that. The President can't possibly totally comprehend what is happening unless he sees for himself and talks to actual immigrants and takes notes, and then takes that information back with him to work with legislative groups on both sides of the aisle(not just the ones with whom he agrees). This is so serious--I don't feel that sending anyone in his place is a good alternative measure.

Do they really get patted down in Chicago? We are not at that stage yet. Last year on the first day of school for teachers we practiced what we would do if a shooter successfully entered the building. A gunshot down the hall sounds exactly like a book dropping. This drill made one of the younger teachers cry. But, I'm not bemoaning taking the steps necessary to prevent mayhem. I know this is necessary. I guess, though, that at least some of those children being scrutinized physically, if you will, were young enough to wonder what on earth was being done to them. I only hope someone took the time to explain this to them.

Wearin' my heart on my sleeve here.
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:19:00 AM

"Like I asked, how does Obama 'physically' spending a couple of hours at The Border help anything?"



Feel the same way about Bush and Katrina???? He sure took a lot of heat for the fly over...


" They are getting patted down, for crying out loud, when they enter the country. "



MWyeant, I had to chuckle at that statement... Kids get patted down going to school in some areas of Chicago, and most children are also subject to it when boarding airplanes... It's the new norm....



[Edited by: reb4 at 7/24/2014 9:20:30 AM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 8:52:36 AM

"Photo op? I don't think like that. I hope our President doesn't think like that either."

And I don't think he does, which is why he hasn't gone to the border.

Like I asked, how does Obama 'physically' spending a couple of hours at The Border help anything?
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 7:30:57 PM

No, we can’t take care of all the children in the world.

A recent(today or yesterday, I forget which) Pew Research Report says that most of the immigrants who have come to the US recently are teenagers, and that there is an ever-increasing number of 12-year-olds and younger coming through. The reasons that they are here fall all over the political spectrum in the US, as well as reflect the harsh conditions in their Central American communities.

IMHO, our President could take the time to interact with these kids to get a feel about how they are doing. He could show them a modicum of respect. They are getting patted down, for crying out loud, when they enter the country. Even the sheriff in my county went with several other sheriffs to check out the situation at the border, to get ideas of how to handle things if our county is a new home for some of these children.
It is unconscionable to me that he is fundraising and doing many other things but not gaining invaluable information about these children by talking to them and asking them questions. Maybe he would learn something, gather some information that could help him make better decisions about immigrants in general.

I am never one who is calling our President disrespectful names, or attacking him personally, although I rarely agree with his policies. I have respect for the office. He is displaying little respect for this tender collection of kids that is here through no fault of their own with no or little family to chat with or to comfort them or to give them direction.

It is a shame.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 6:56:17 PM

mweyant - "Children should be way up there on the priority list."

Not sure what your point is. We can't take care of all the children in the world.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 6:55:46 PM

jdhelm - "Did anyone see this thread post?"

Most 'scandals' exist purely to provide an excuse to attack the other side.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 6:54:47 PM

reb4 - "Yep, I can agree RJ.... very LITTLE reality ....

Beer ???? History according to Wiki...."

As usual, no sense of humor.
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Scanman
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 5:40:43 PM

rj..U put a real "spin" on that..
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 5:12:06 PM

Clear, concise and factual......
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 5:02:36 PM

Well, in my opinion, this is an almost unthinkable situation--all politics aside, as far as I'm concerned. Those children are here from a series of events for which both Republicans and Democrats are responsible. I don't know if anyone could have predicted that this could have happened. I don't know--I am not one of the ones who is saying someone could have predicted this. But, those children are here, and they need assistance. There are kids getting patted down, for crying out loud. This is serious enough that the sitting President, no matter who it is, should be investigating himself. Photo op? I don't think like that. I hope our President doesn't think like that either.

Heck, the sheriff in my county went there as part of a large group of sheriffs to discuss what they could do. No one can tell me that our President couldn't be checking things out. Children should be way up there on the priority list.

Anyway, I do go on, but that is the way I feel.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:53:36 PM

"Couldn't agree more, SAVMOR. He is still MIA at the border, also, and this is an issue that involves many, many children."

Why does 'any' member of our government need to go to the border to do something about immigration reform?

The problem is the lack of action in Congress, not the lack of pomp and circumstance over a photo op...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:52:22 PM

"I am sure the ones here who think Obama can do no wrong will not agree with me..."

And who are those that you might be referencing?
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SAVMOR
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:14:20 PM

<<"With 4 plane crashes in the past week, don't blame anyone for not wanting to fly anywhere... ,,"

BuzzLOL - Obama managed to fly to his fund raising events without any worries. Kerry was in Israel and he could have represented the United States in the Netherlands if Obama could not find the time. Just supports the beliefs of many that Obama wants to remain detached.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 1:46:05 PM

Couldn't agree more, SAVMOR. He is still MIA at the border, also, and this is an issue that involves many, many children. The Pew Research Center just came out with a report that says the greater number of immigrants were teenagers, and that the number of those younger than teenagers is gradually increasing.
Children 12 and under are fastest growing group of unaccompanied minors at U.S. border

7-22-14

. . . for those who were trying to make the case that these were mainly adults coming to the US

[Edited by: mweyant at 7/23/2014 1:50:32 PM EST]
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 12:46:29 PM

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< "might have been nice if Obama had flown over to the Netherlands" >

. With 4 plane crashes in the past week, don't blame anyone for not wanting to fly anywhere...

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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 12:32:50 PM

I am sure the ones here who think Obama can do no wrong will not agree with me, but it might have been nice if Obama had flown over to the Netherlands to be among the dignitaries who welcomed the victims of the downed Malaysia airliner to show western solidarity as the victims were from Nato nations. He certainly can take Air Force one all over the place for fund raisers. This show of grief from our president would have gone a long way in how Obama is looked upon.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:35:27 AM

Excellent video, sissurf. If it weren't so sadly true, it would be funny, like the rest of Ray Stevens' videos.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:29:24 AM

Did anyone see this thread post?
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:27:37 AM

Holy Toledo..... Funny Obama nation sis..."Of course, an "Obama lover" is anyone who likes a little reality in their political discourse."
Yep, I can agree RJ.... very LITTLE reality ....

Beer ???? History according to Wiki....
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:24:27 AM

'The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is RUSSIA!'- fixed it for you sissurf...
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 1:46:51 AM

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. Cowardly psychotic Conservatives/Tories wanted us to stay ruled by King George in 1776... brave liberals like George Washington had other ideas...
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 8:21:14 PM



Topic: "How Do You Like Obama So Far?"

Obama Nation"

The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the UNITED STATES!



[Edited by: sissurf at 7/22/2014 8:22:18 PM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 4:01:33 PM

Actually, don't conservatives want everyone eternally in debt to them, so they can collect the interest?
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 3:52:22 PM

And one can naturally ascertain that what follows is, if Liberals did invent beer then they will always keep the others "eternally" in debt..

[Edited by: Scanman at 7/22/2014 3:57:44 PM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 3:36:03 PM

borsht - "I received this story in an e-mail. Humor!!"

It seems likely that it was a liberal who invented beer, thus conservatives are eternally in the debt of liberals. 7;-]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 3:34:57 PM

mnrick041 - "With the Occasional Obama lovers posting on here"

Of course, an "Obama lover" is anyone who likes a little reality in their political discourse.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 1:12:51 PM

I guess in my old age, it now so much about Obama as it is about liberals.
I received this story in an e-mail. Humor!!

History of Conservative and liberals:
Well, I didn't read this from a book, but I did get it from a relative of mine - who happens to be a devout Democrat. Anyhow, he knew I'd get a kick out of it.

Here it is for your muse:

For those that don't know about history . . . here is a condensed version:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of Nomadic Hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the Invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get Man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and
together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals or 2. Conservatives

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of Agriculture. Neither the glass bottle or aluminum can was invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for
them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.

That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as The Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men (this term was coined in later years by a Conservative Governor from California). Some noteworthy liberal achievements Include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the Concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant.

Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard Liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher Testosterone levels than what their men have. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are Liberals. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the baseball pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Military, and generally anyone who works productively.

Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than what Americans are. That is why most of the Liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the
Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be Noted that a Liberal May have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above Before forwarding it.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to p.. them off.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 12:45:12 PM

"B.S. ....BuzzLOL, what station, I couldn't one under $3.00..?....
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your lower gas prices are likely due to your having a republican governor..."

I hate when either side tries to use the price of gas for political gain - it is the height of folly.
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KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 9:35:23 PM

B.S. ....BuzzLOL, what station, I couldn't one under $3.00..?....
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your lower gas prices are likely due to your having a republican governor...

[Edited by: KnoxGasPriceSpy at 7/21/2014 9:40:31 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 6:53:40 PM

gas pump prices when Bush was POTUS
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 6:29:35 PM

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. Pres. Obama has our gas down to $2.99 again today... amazingly after 6 years later... better than $5/gal. Summer 2008 under EvilBushJr...

. ToledoGasPrices.com
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 5:59:09 PM

"Interesting indeed. Thanks for posting that one, reb4."

That was the first time you have seen such criticisms of Obama? He makes some good points - others leave something to be desired.

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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 2:09:01 PM

That's right Pithy. The guy plays Basketball AND golf!
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 2:00:02 PM

Man, even black stand-up comedians are now reminding us he is half WHITE!!!!!!!
So, we are going to have to take half the blame!
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 1:25:10 PM

A Standing Ovation for Judge Pirro! Someone has the Ba**s to say what needs to be said. Now if only America would listen!
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 1:01:49 PM

Interesting indeed. Thanks for posting that one, reb4.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 9:20:19 AM

Here's an interesting take...
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 7:26:32 AM

No Whereman, LOL I get it now.

With the Occasional Obama lovers posting on here I thought someone was actually trying to say Obama was the 5th best President ever.
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 7:22:09 AM

Obama: One Big A** Mistake America
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 8:12:09 PM

Great post no whereman!...but isn't amazing how people can read a few sentences and still remain Clueless as to what you said?
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 1:54:48 PM

Judge Jeanine is both funny and gets to the point...

Judge Jeanine Pirro used every rhetorical trick in her quiver to go after Obama and display how feckless a leader he’s been, and how dangerous the world has become because of his irresponsible recklessness. My favorite part is when she demands he put on his “big boy pants” and get into the game. Somehow I doubt he’ll take the advice.
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 8:06:06 PM

Obama the 5th best President ever?

Who did they poll for that one?

Seriously, I know very few people who have a positive opinion of him. In fact I don't know anyone who likes him.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:33:16 PM

Of the total of 44 US Presidents: Obama rated 5th best president ever. I was just reading a Democratic publicity release that said,
"...after a little more than 4 years, Obama has been rated the 5th best president ever."The details according to White House Publicists:

* Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and 7 others tied for first,

* 15 presidents tied for second,

* 17 other presidents tied for third,

* Jimmy Carter came in 4th, and

* Obama came in fifth
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:18:09 PM

SAVMOR - "He just doesn't want to be involved and wants to remain at a distance from the events that a president should be very concerned about."

All of which simply means that you're ignoring everything except that which supports your ODS.
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