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TAFKATP

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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:44:43 PM

Middle School Teacher Is Placed On Leave After Students Discover Her Porn Past

Read the comments after the story.

"Right, if it's not on school grounds, no school funds are being used, and nowhere is the school mentioned in any form, AND it's LEGAL it should be off limits to reprimand them."

"This is one of the many reasons why I feel public schooling is flawed. What a teacher does in his or her own time is his or her own business, and no-one should be penalised for the 'crime' of appearing in legal videos, no matter the content. Schools that do this ought to be ashamed of themselves for their attacks on privacy."

"I am a parent and I would be more concerned about why my child was looking at porn. Being a pornstar doesn't mean you molest children. I'm sure there are plenty of teachers who stripped while they were on college.why? Because its a lot of money. I would be upset if I found out but I really would be more upset about my child than the teacher. Everyone had skeletons."

Does anyone need more evidence that Liberalism has destroyed the moral fiber of our once great Nation?

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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 3:10:16 AM

"That was rodeo satire, not an actual call for Obama to be run down by a bull. The announcer and the clown didn't want Obama trampled by a bull any more than they wanted the clown himself to be run down."

Which I would take at face value had he not asked the crowd if they wanted to see President Obama run down by a bull.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 1:58:04 AM

" I'll take a funny bone over phoney selective outrage any day. "

And I'll take compassionate liberals over hypocritical, unforgiving conservatives who blame EVERYTHING on liberals any day.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 6:40:08 PM

"That was rodeo satire, not an actual call for Obama to be run down by a bull. The announcer and the clown didn't want Obama trampled by a bull any more than they wanted the clown himself to be run down."

As much as I don't like to agree with no1doc, this is correct...
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no1doc
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 6:16:03 PM

That was rodeo satire, not an actual call for Obama to be run down by a bull. The announcer and the clown didn't want Obama trampled by a bull any more than they wanted the clown himself to be run down. It was make believe, just like the Bush decoy dummy used in bull riding in a previous rodeo. That rodeo prank was not advocating violence against Bush; it was a joke, just like the Obama clown. The banned clown could have been mute the whole time and the humorless whiner that reported him would have still taken offense. I'll take a funny bone over phoney selective outrage any day.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 10:59:32 AM

gocat, he was banned a long time ago.
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 10:31:35 AM

I hate to go off topic but what happened to the author, Tafkatp? I could not find his profile on gb.com.

Tim, "lib ideaology"? So maybe the world is only 10,000 years old? Maybe you think Radiocarbon dating is a flim flam. You can base the history of the world strictly on the Bible. The world was created in 7 days. Dinosaurs though not mentioned in the Bible only go back 10,000 years. Good luck with the flat earth thinking.

Religious teaching should and always be a partnership between parents and church. Looking at my son and his children is the best case sceerio I know of today.
imho
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:15:29 PM

"It wasn't the funny mask, it was the suggestion Obama should be run down by a bull. People criticize violence in Egypt then say it should be okay to advocate violence against the President of the US."

Well said!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 5:55:09 PM

The teacher didn't suggest violence either, that is why the clown was banned forever.
It wasn't the funny mask, it was the suggestion Obama should be run down by a bull. People criticize violence in Egypt then say it should be okay to advocate violence against the President of the US.
I bet dollars to doughnuts if he just went out with the mask and did the act without asking if people wanted to see the President run down by a bull he wouldn't have been banned.
It is worth noting he has been criticized by rodeo clowns as well.

'It's not unheard of for a rodeo clown, depending on how he reads his audience, to play politics a little bit,' said Jim Bainbridge, the senior public relations coordinator at the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
'But this crossed a line. Clearly, when you're suggesting that the president should be injured, it kind of gets to a level of hostility that is inappropriate.'

Silly comparison.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 5:08:12 PM

"Does anyone who feels this teacher should be reinstated feel the same about the Obama mask rodeo clown who is permanently banned? "


Not the same thing.

The teacher was fired for things she did YEARS ago. She was exemplary in the classroom and had her past not been "discovered by KIDS looking at porn", she would still be working.

The clown was banned for what HE JUST DID THIS MONTH.

Not even close to being the same thing...

SMH


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no1doc
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:37:55 PM

Does anyone who feels this teacher should be reinstated feel the same about the Obama mask rodeo clown who is permanently banned?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2013 11:08:02 PM

"I've worked as a teacher in public schools for nearly twenty years, and I don't recall religion being "forced" on anyone, even once. I can't say the same about certain liberal ideaologies. "


I've been a parent longer than that, and I've seen it done; mind you, I'm a religious man. I just think public schools should teach academics, because I understand everyone doesn't share the same religious values and I would not want my kid being forced to learn a religion I don't agree with.
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2013 10:55:29 PM

"I've worked as a teacher in public schools for nearly twenty years, and I don't recall religion being "forced" on anyone, even once."

Tim, how about the school districts in "red states" wanting to put the 10 Commandments in public school. That is not trying to force beliefs onto others? I believe it is. Keep that stuff in church.

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 8/6/2013 10:56:34 PM EST]
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2013 10:52:40 PM

Don't know about Maryland Tim, here in California, a big chunk of public school money comes from property taxes. So no, I am not in favor of home schoolers getting a tax credit because they don't use public schools. How about those going to private school? They don't use it, should they get a tax credit? How about retirees? People with no kids? Do they all get that tax credit? I don't live in an area prone to mosquitos. Should I get a tax credit for the "vector control tax" I pay?
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2013 9:38:27 PM

jayrad said,
"Those who think religion should be shoved down the throats of children in public schools, take your money and spend it for private school. Better yet, home school your kids. You can teach them the religious ideology of your choice without infringing on others. Home schooling is a viable choice for many if they choose to put the time into it. That way, you can't blame the government for anything concerning your child's education."

I've worked as a teacher in public schools for nearly twenty years, and I don't recall religion being "forced" on anyone, even once. I can't say the same about certain liberal ideaologies.

Does this mean that you are also in favor of a full tax credit of the percentage of the income tax devoted to public education that those homeschool parents currently have to pay, even if they don't use public education? After all, why should they pay if they don't use it? It's not like a public road or library that they MIGHT use someday.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 8:19:14 PM

"Better yet, home school your kids. You can teach them the religious ideology of your choice without infringing on others. Home schooling is a viable choice for many if they choose to put the time into it. That way, you can't blame the government for anything concerning your child's education."


Bingo and Boom!

Although I still think some will find a way to blame to government...they always so!
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 6:59:49 PM

Those who think religion should be shoved down the throats of children in public schools, take your money and spend it for private school. Better yet, home school your kids. You can teach them the religious ideology of your choice without infringing on others. Home schooling is a viable choice for many if they choose to put the time into it. That way, you can't blame the government for anything concerning your child's education.

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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 6:46:36 PM

Country is really slipping!
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 11:19:01 AM

"The problem is that assumption that all public schools are "good". Though I've had a good experience in my own life, and my kids schools have been good, that isn't the paradigm everyplace. Chicago schools stink, most LA schools stink, and we can give plenty of other examples. "


They're not all good and they're not all bad either. But good or bad, public schools shouldn't be the place where parents expect religion to be taught. Parents should teach their kids religion and get support in that from their church or house of worship.
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 10:52:11 AM

RNorm said: "There is nothing wrong with public schools. Moreover, schools are not the place where you're supposed to be teaching kids about God. You should learn about God at home and at church."

--I'm a product of public education myself. I even went to public, state-run universities for college and grad school. I don't disagree with you in a sense. But when you see the rankings and scores for many, if not the majority of LAUSD schools, it makes folks blood boil. Example: They built a brand new school that was overflow for another failing high school. Guess what? That school was on the list of failing schools from the day it opened. Why couldn't that money have been used to help other schools attain mediocrity from failing status? And they did this with MY tax money?

The problem is that assumption that all public schools are "good". Though I've had a good experience in my own life, and my kids schools have been good, that isn't the paradigm everyplace. Chicago schools stink, most LA schools stink, and we can give plenty of other examples.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 9:29:02 AM

"Why would anyone send their children to a government school. As Michael Badnarik says "They tell you you can have God or government in your school and you pick government?"


There is nothing wrong with public schools. Moreover, schools are not the place where you're supposed to be teaching kids about God. You should learn about God at home and at church.

All of my kids went to public schools and all of them (except one, because he's in high school) went on to be accepted into college and graduate.

SMH
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2013 7:34:54 PM

Maybe she would be a good teacher in this school
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2013 4:33:42 PM

I am guessing an envious teacher outed her. To get rid of her, the story of all the kiddies checking her out on the web was fostered to get her fired.
Who is the parent that lets there child watch porn/
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 8:31:29 AM

Why would anyone send their children to a government school. As Michael Badnarik says "They tell you you can have God or government in your school and you pick government?"
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 12:33:48 PM

cat, "I'm guessing porn sales are not limited to libs & dems.
Sex sells." No doubt about it. And it's not just men either. It can be addicting - just like alcohol. I suspect most ex-porn junkies (or "recovering" porn junkies) probably ARE cons, and most likely Christian.

greentr, "Should we ostracise everyone who did something in the past that isn't approved of today? How many of you have done something in your past that is frowned on today?"

Her problem isn't just that she "did something in the past that isn't approved of today." If she had turned tricks for cash at the Chicken Ranch before she started teaching, she might well still be teaching. In both "careers", If she mended her ways, she deserves forgiveness.

But forgiveness isn't the issue. The whole world may forgive her but, the problem is there are permanent video links of her porn activity which she can never escape. Her past will always be with her. Doing porn films was an incredibly stupid activity for someone who planned to teach adolescents. The school board unanimously decided that "To have Ms. Halas back at school would cause continued distraction and disruption." When she was still teaching, kids who hadn't seen the video were asking other teachers about the allegations.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 11:57:44 PM

greentre - let's say, for the sake of argument, I shot someone when I was in kindergarden or grade school. Let me tell you something - no college would touch my application, even if I were a decent student, if I had such a mark on my record.
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greentre
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 10:30:23 PM

Has anyone looked at how many popular actors have had 'porn' gigs in their early years? More than you would expect. Politicians? (still) Clergy?

Should we ostracise everyone who did something in the past that isn't approved of today? How many of you have done something in your past that is frowned on today?

This is like judging you on what you did in kindergarten to determine what you can do in college. Fair?
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 10:22:04 PM

I agree AC...
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 12:21:02 PM

I agree with RNorm, Streetrider and others. Punish the kids too, for looking at porn. By all means!

There's two arguments here, both have equal strength, and I can't say I like one over the other. The first is that the teacher "did it" years ago and had not done so again (though I think I heard that she had done it since, but let's presume not). Like I say, that's the past. No more going forward. Then there is also potentially the argument that her public porn could be disruptive to the school and the teacher/student relationship.

Again, I don't know what is the best or "right" course of action here. I'm not making a judgment, just laying out the argument (no pun intended). I suppose getting rid of the teacher is the most conservative course of action.
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 12:10:26 PM

More than likely if she is or was a porn star she did it for the money. Which is much better than doing it for some sick perversion that other teachers have been caught at.

Now isn't it time to discipline those kids that are sharing the porn.
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:43:43 AM

no1, "cons did not fire this teacher" but it's mostly cons on this topic that are rolling her over the coals.

According to Forbes, the porn industry in America makes over 4 billion dollars. Another web site said porn topped the combined sales of the top 3 broadcasting networks in America. I'm guessing porn sales are not limited to libs & dems.
Sex sells.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 12:08:18 PM

Well if San Diego has a pervert for a mayor adn NYC is seriously looking at a serial pervert and liar for a mayor - I see no reason at all why this young lady shouldn't teach.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 12:05:50 PM

"If she did the porn in the past, and didn't do it ever again, then I might be willing to give her a "pass". However, if she's been doing porn SINCE becoming a teacher, well, I think that's over the top. So if she's made porn since becoming a teacher, I think she's got to go. And I had heard that she HAD been making porn movies since becoming a teacher, but that's hearsay. "


She was fired for doing porn when she was in college. There was no proof brought that she had been doing porn in the present. The students "discovered" her porn and were sharing it amongst themselves. However, she was actually one of the better teachers at the school.

Funny how you here all these self-righteous folk talk about protecting the children, when its their own children looking at porn?

What she did in the past should have no bearing on what she's doing now. But hypocrites can't accept that. Kinda like the hypocritical Rev. Dimmesdale in the Scarlet Letter, just as guilty as Hester, but too cowardly to own up to his own actions...
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 11:51:01 AM

If she did the porn in the past, and didn't do it ever again, then I might be willing to give her a "pass". However, if she's been doing porn SINCE becoming a teacher, well, I think that's over the top. So if she's made porn since becoming a teacher, I think she's got to go. And I had heard that she HAD been making porn movies since becoming a teacher, but that's hearsay.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:39:32 AM

Itwould be tough to teach in such a situation. This would seem to be a fairly unique career change.
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no1doc
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:36:56 AM

cat, "cons" didn't fire this teacher. These are the school board members who voted unanimously to get rid of her. The three on the left are Democrats. Couldn't find any affiliation for the two black guys but, given African American party affiliation, there's a 90+% chance they're also Democrats.
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Message Posted: May 25, 2013 11:17:50 AM

Apparently cons are a lot less indignant about electing a lying cheating adulterer ex Gov to congress than letting a former porn star teach. I wonder if my ex Gov watched much porn.
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 9:21:06 AM

""I'm just glad Jesus told me that none a the conservatives postin' here ever watch that p-rn stuff""

Not all conservitives are Bible Thumpers.....I Sure Nuf Ain't
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 10:46:37 AM

Just did a search to see if she had found employment and couldn't find any updates.

"Porn isn't ending marriages -- its the lack of love, trust, communication and honesty that's doing them in."

You're right again norm, porn is just a symptom of the real problem. Marriage was taking a hit long before internet porn.

"What a fantasy world the above poster must reside in! The USA has never been in greater shape than it is today -- and plenty of room for improvement clearly remains."

The US has "never been in greater shape"? The US debt was downgraded for the first time in history in 2011. The national debt is higher than ever with each new baby born with a $50,000+ share of it. 30 fold increase in tuition cost at my Alma Mater, student loan defaults at new records, bankruptcies from out of control health care costs, new premium hikes after the Patient Protection and Affordable Care, Chronic unemployment over 7.5% in spite of a near zero interest rate business environment, and responsible folks with savings losing to inflation with yields lower than during the great depression. We could go on and we won't even touch on social issues.

Who's living in a fantasy world? But, you're certainly right in your last point - there's plenty of room for improvement.

[Edited by: no1doc at 5/22/2013 10:50:17 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2013 2:56:15 AM

"I'm just glad Jesus told me that none a the conservatives postin' here ever watch that p-rn stuff"

Praise Yahweh! Thems bin saved from ruination and shirley must now bee on the road too righteousness. Perspiring words, yes Sir.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2013 1:47:17 PM

"Is porn really the cause of 50% of all divorces?"


Not defending Porn in the least, but to blame half of marriage failures on porn is simply a cop-out; its an easy way to blame something (or someone) else for your own marital problems and/or failures.

Porn isn't ending marriages -- its the lack of love, trust, communication and honesty that's doing them in.

Too many people would rather take the easy way out and blame it all on porn rather than take the road less traveled and do the hard work of making marriage work.

SMH
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2013 1:36:30 PM

"One bad apple spoils the whole country and them parents is just more bad apples doin' more spoilin' of what was once a great county."

What a fantasy world the above poster must reside in! The USA has never been in greater shape than it is today -- and plenty of room for improvement clearly remains. Folks in the past weren't nearly as aware of problems going on as today's residents are. But that doesn't mean the problems didn't exist -- it just meant the folks were considerably more ignorant of them than we are today.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2013 10:18:50 AM

"Deep Throat" porn actor Harry Reems dies after turbulent life He was able to outlive his porn fame and said this in an interview: "I live in a small town where everybody knows everybody and nobody thinks of me as a porn actor." RIP Harry.
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I don't need me no more evidence that libs done destroyed the nation. This one teacher doin' what she done: that seals the deal for your's truly.

One bad apple spoils the whole country and them parents is just more bad apples doin' more spoilin' of what was once a great county.

Them libs don't mind nothin' if it's got to do with s-x and p-rn.

I'm just glad Jesus told me that none a the conservatives postin' here ever watch that p-rn stuff, tho its' a little disconcertin' to have a topic so vile and ungodly spoke about here.

But the grater point is that no more evidence is needed of the destruction of the moral fiber of the nation. Now its just a matter of packin' the guns and ammo 'n' Glenn Beck gold and gettin' out.
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 9:47:32 AM

Is porn really the cause of 50% of all divorces?
Published on December 12, 2011 by Kevin B. Skinner, Ph.D. in Inside Porn Addiction
"In a 2004 testimony before the United States Senate, Dr. Jill Manning shared some interesting data regarding pornography and relationships. In her research she found that 56 percent of divorce cases involved one party having an obsessive interest in pornographic websites.1 Another source, the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, polled 350 divorce attorneys in 2003 where two thirds of them reported that the Internet played a significant role in the divorces, with excessive interest in online porn contributing to more than half such cases."

From the link: "I have a hard time imagining that the 500,000 divorces in the United States each year are because of porn. Nevertheless, if even 25% of the 500,000 divorce cases are due to porn, that is 125,000 marriages each and every year that are a direct result of pornography.

That's too many broken homes. That's too much hurt and pain.

Is it okay to suggest that pornography might not be good for our society? Sure a majority of people who view porn aren't obsessed by it, but what about those whose lives are out of control because of it? There is a tremendous cost to society whether we acknowledge it or not."

The path to healthy intimacy.
by Kevin B. Skinner, Ph.D.

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 12:21:19 PM

"If this document is accurate, should it make a difference?"


What she did 5-6 years ago is irrelevant to what she was doing while working for the Oxnard District.

I think the only reason they brought up that old information is to try to bolster their hypocrisy and double standards in firing someone for what they did in the past before they began working for you.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:39:09 AM

Was pron star a substitute teacher during the time she was making films?

"The Oxnard district thinks Halas was teaching while appearing in pornography on the side. On Thursday, Assistant Superintendent Sean Goldman presented a document that shows Halas was a substitute teacher for four school districts in February and March of 2006, when she was still making the videos.

Schwab questioned the accuracy of the document."
......................

If this document is accurate, should it make a difference?

[Edited by: no1doc at 2/23/2013 11:41:23 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:41:01 AM

I hope she appeals this decision to a higher court.
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:33:45 AM


TAFKATP, "Does anyone need more evidence that Liberalism has destroyed the moral fiber of our once great Nation?"

No.

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Panama19
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:31:25 AM


BlackGumTree, thoughtful post, well stated.

Thank you.

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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:20:58 AM

If you plan a career being in the public eye, starring in porn for internet consumption is bad juju. Especially if you plan to teach a class of testosterone surging boys.

What was she thinking? Maybe she could teach at a school for the blind. Maybe kindergarten? Her predicament is a little like the lady who leaves the rest room with toilet paper trailing behind her. Somebody always notices. But in her case, the trailing paper is stuck to her, unless the whole internet is scrubbed. You may be right about Pandora's box. Let's start taxing internet porn. Might do wonders for for government revenue. Naah, can't tax "free speech" - right?

"Life is tough, it is tougher if you are stupid."
John Wayne

Bad choices can have consequences.
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