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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2011 1:04:09 PM

How high will we and our politicians let our national debt go?

U. S. National Debt Clock

It's currently $14,311,240,500,000 and climbing.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2014 8:37:08 PM

Tax Revenues Set Record for October; Feds Still Run Monthly Deficit of $1,050 Per Household





"The federal government has started fiscal 2015 by setting yet another record for inflation-adjusted tax revenue, while running a monthly deficit of $121.7 billion, which works out to $1050.78 in deficit spending per household in the United States.

For each $1.00 the Treasury brought in during October as it set the new record for taxes collection for that month, the federal government spent $1.57."

[Edited by: reb4 at 11/14/2014 8:37:23 PM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 12:23:22 AM

Yes popcorn pirate... All the wonderful policies the left wanted and spending the future generations money....

And their will be more spending policies passed by executive order coming before January .... No doubt....
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:13:09 AM

So Obama has in short... DOUBLED the debt since he has been in office.
OK...Great.
Please can we get someone in Washington to start getting rid of that debt?
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:05:03 AM

Let's see, since


January 22, 2008 debt was 9,191,074,962,157.16

October 22, 2014 debt was 17,909,673,864,034.60
so the debt since Obama took office: 8,718,598,901,877.44


Something all voters should think about when going to the polls.




Obama called Bush.... Un Patriotic..... And called Bush irresponsible.....So What does Obama call himself????

SMH

[Edited by: reb4 at 10/23/2014 10:10:01 AM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 1:08:29 PM

The Debt to the Penny and Who Holds It



Here is an interesting site... Debt to the penny ... you can put in two dates and see how much more the National debt has changed, between those two dates.





Obama took office January 21, 2005




Since that date.... debt has grown by 10,254,483,421,837.30





Obama Talked about paying back 9 trillion Dollars ... and how Bush was un patriotic...








How does paying back 17.867 trillion dollars sound...



[Edited by: reb4 at 10/9/2014 1:09:10 PM EST]
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TuNnL
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2014 7:15:35 AM

On Jul 16, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Shockjock1961 wrote:

>>> "Nothing like an administration that knows how to spend more than we have..."

That's been the case for a hundred years or more. Mega deficits have been prominent since 1980, so I'm unsure why that issue is any more of a problem then it has been in the past. <<<

You are wrong on both accounts. Also we are talking about DEBT (what we owe cumulatively) not DEFICITS (receipts minus spending for a particular year) which are two separate, entirely different things. The debt DID actually go down from 1927 to 1928. This was the only time that has happened since the turn of the 20th century.

As for why it is MORE of a problem then it has been in the past, it’s because up until President Nixon’s term, the RATIO of debt to GDP (gross domestic product) was on a downward trajectory. The lowest it had been since the end of World War II was about mid-way through his term. That is when Nixon had the “brilliant” idea to take U.S. currency off the “Gold standard.”

Up until August 1971, all cash was backed by Gold, somewhere in our banking system, and could be legally tendered, on demand, for Gold. By taking the U.S. off the standard, our cash became “fiat money” or essentially worthless, if the person you are trying to pay wants to exchange that currency for Gold.

Ever since then, the federal government has printed more money whenever the felt like it! Trouble is, if there's nothing backing up those dollars, the value has to come from SOMEWHERE. That SOMEWHERE, are LOANS from foreign governments. The country we have borrowed the most money from is China. And why is China so rich in the first place? Because we have SHIPPED ALL OUR JOBS to China.

So now that we don’t even have the jobs to continue paying more taxes (so we can use the taxes to pay debts), President Obama is borrowing MORE money at a FASTER RATE then at any time in U.S. history! Our debt is now 120% of the GDP. This means as a country, we don’t even make enough money annually to keep up with making the payments on our debt (let alone start paying it off)!

Eventually, our lenders will wise up, and STOP lending us money. As a result, our stock market will crash, companies will go bankrupt overnight, and banks will freeze all accounts to avoid a bank run. Great Depression II. Get it?
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 11:57:01 PM

jr Senator Obama bashing Bush on driving up the deficit....



Let's see, Obama complained that Bush raised national debt total of 4 trillion Dollars by his lonesome.... However, Obama has raised the debt to date ... 7 Trillion dollars and there is still more than 2 years to go....
Obama Talked about paying back 9 trillion Dollars ...

However, We now have to somehow payback over 17.7 trillion dollars... *And growing .Obama COmplained about the debt being $30,000 for every man, women, and child...

But NOW it's over $55,666 for every man, woman and child...Obama called Bush.... Irresponsible....

Obama called Bush.... Un Patriotic.....
So What does Obama call himself????

SMH


[Edited by: reb4 at 9/25/2014 11:59:30 PM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 8:45:13 AM

Median Income : 2014 - 28,479
Median Income : 2010 - 28,648 (this IS adjusted for inflation)

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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2014 8:07:25 PM

reb4 said: "Barack Obama, 2006 Ooops...."

reb4, please make a better effort to not be redundant! ;)
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2014 7:42:23 PM

Previous link not working ... here is another report
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2014 4:33:22 PM

Deficit growing despite increased revenue from tax increases
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2014 9:27:25 AM

Yes I know both sides do it.
BUT
The Liberals spend it on feel good projects & freebee giveaways to their people.

Conservatives spend on Defense & infrastructure. This spending actually increases jobs & lifts the economy up.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2014 7:40:58 PM

LOL, good luck with that... Popcorn...

Both sides do it... but it sure seems the current administration is going for the record books...
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2014 9:55:57 AM

If you cant afford it...Dont spend it.
Something our government has not learned
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reb4
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2014 9:09:16 AM

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt."

--Barack Obama, 2006
Ooops....
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 7:09:21 PM

"Spending bills start in the Congress.
The party of no has been stuck in low/no gear for the last five years."





Let alone the encouraging the flood gates with his administrations actions, or lack there of...






[Edited by: reb4 at 7/16/2014 7:09:40 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 2:51:25 PM

"Nothing like an administration that knows how to spend more than we have..."

That's been the case for a hundred years or more. Mega deficits have been prominent since 1980, so I'm unsure why that issue is any more of a problem then it has been in the past...
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 1:42:57 PM

"Nothing like an administration that knows how to spend more than we have..."

Spending bills start in the Congress.
The party of no has been stuck in low/no gear for the last five years.

Maybe we need another GOP unfunded war to perk them up?
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 1:18:42 PM

News:
Federal Tax Revenues Set Record Through June; Feds Still Running $385.8B Deficit

"CNSNews.com) - Federal tax revenues continue to run at a record pace (in inflation-adjusted dollars) in fiscal 2014, as the federal government’s total receipts for the fiscal year closed June at an unprecedented $2,258,565,000,000 according to the Monthly Treasury Statement."

So far so good, right? (some people believe that the federal government SHOULD tax huge amounts of cash out of the economy)

"...the government has still run a cumulative deficit of $385.855 billion in the first nine months of fiscal 2014."

"...it ended fiscal 2013 with a full-year deficit of $680.221 billion."

"...the federal government will collect $3.001721 trillion in taxes and spend $3.650526 trillion, while running a deficit of $648.805 billion." (in 2014)

Wow, a deficit reduction of 22 Billion over a year. It would take only 29.4 years to get that deficit down to zero, i.e. a balanced budget. Paul Ryan's budget plan offered to do it in ten. Connie Mack's Penny Plan does it in six.

I'll take Penny for Six, Alex.

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 7/15/2014 1:19:50 PM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2014 2:00:13 PM

WOW, you are right citizen1.... it did go down between 1929 to 1930...

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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 10:56:40 AM

There hasn't been a president in my lifetime that did a good job with the debt although some were worse than others. Clinton claimed a balanced budget but the debt rose each year so that was just a gimmick that Newt was all to willing to play along with.
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 9:43:41 AM

tick tock tick tock
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 9:12:58 AM

It's currently $17,557,923,900,000 and climbing!



Nothing like an administration that knows how to spend more than we have...



[Edited by: reb4 at 7/2/2014 9:13:11 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2014 8:57:04 AM

"Obama is doing a great job with our spending and debt, isn't he?"

You seem to love the handouts Obama provides speedy...

Why are you complaining about it now?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2014 11:37:19 PM

Obama is under investigation for so many things that it actually is helping him. Democrats just ignore them all and call them "politics" started by the Republicans.
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2014 5:50:01 PM

101Speedster, >>Obama is doing a great job with our spending and debt, isn't he?<<
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Isn't this one of the many things he has "under investigation" or am I mistaken?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2014 4:18:48 PM

btc1: "Remember who's guys got us here. Know who it takes to get us out of debt. Democrats, always."

Obama is doing a great job with our spending and debt, isn't he?
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2014 2:07:35 PM

Just saw this link.... Numbers are off, but soooooo appropriate...
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Message Posted: May 29, 2014 9:30:12 AM

Lack of responsibility to spend what we have has been a trend... for a very long time.. and the consequences will show.
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Message Posted: May 18, 2014 5:44:51 PM

There's plenty of blame to go around. No one person or party is solely to blame for this mess.
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Message Posted: May 18, 2014 12:54:25 PM

btc1, >>Know who it takes to get us out of debt. Democrats, always. Conservative Presidents are always the big spenders without paying for it.<<
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BS.

Granted alleged conservatives have shared in bringing financial havoc on our country, it was brought about and continues to be brought about by Progressive ideology. Placing blame solely on any one party is simply a falsehood.

As far as Democrats getting us out of the last financial fiasco, you must have forgotten that it is the Congress that controls the purse strings of this nation. At the time of our last 'balanced budget', Republicans were the majority and Clinton had suffered major setbacks in both Houses in 1994. This lasted until 2006.

You also seem to forget there were two wars fought which had bipartisan support. They were the result of 9/11 which may have been averted had Clinton given the go ahead to send a cruise missel into Afghanistan in the late 1990's. (See Col. Robert Paterson's book, 'Dereliction of Duty'.

Again, as a result of the Republican Party acting 'progressively', the financial status of our country has been seriously damaged and history shows the blame does rest entirely on their shoulders.
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[Edited by: MahopacJack at 5/18/2014 12:57:57 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 18, 2014 9:22:04 AM

Thanks to the one who took us out of bounds.

If this guy had not tripled the national debt and the Republican Presidents who followed him, Obama would not be in the position he is in having to spend more money to straighten out their mess.

Remember who's guys got us here. Know who it takes to get us out of debt. Democrats, always. Conservative Presidents are always the big spenders without paying for it.

You are right, therder. We are just now beginning to understand how Reagan cost us.

[Edited by: btc1 at 5/18/2014 9:25:22 AM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: May 17, 2014 11:22:14 AM

It's currently $17,522,300,400,000 and climbing.

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 5/17/2014 11:22:54 AM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2014 10:56:23 AM

Obama also said it was irresponsible. Thanks for the link, reb4.

Debt per citizen is now up to $55,186. It's almost three times higher if you use taxpayers.

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 4/22/2014 10:58:10 AM EST]
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TuNnL
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2014 6:54:39 PM

On Apr 1, 2014 at 3:51 AM, reb4 wrote:

>>> If 4 trillion run up by 43 president was un patriotic, what is 8 trillion by 44th president... <<<

You call it part of Barack Obama's continuing hypocrisy and an urgent need for Ron Paul Republicans to join with the Tea Party, Libertarians and Occupy Wall Street in taking this country back!
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2014 3:56:42 PM

The debt is going higher and higher. The money printing is going higher and higher. You've got to pay the price someday whether you like it or not. The longer you delay the day of reckoning, the worse the day of reckoning is going to be.
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2014 9:51:38 AM

The National Debt is now up to 17,551,097,000,000

If 4 trillion run up by 43 president was un patriotic, what is 8 trillion by 44th president...
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reb4
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2014 8:25:59 AM

101Speedster, please back up your claims....

PS, current national debt is 17 trillion dollars

SMH
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 11:07:38 AM

Who was it, before elected, that said that excessive debt was unpatriotic? Oh, it was Obama.
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 7:52:20 AM

Yes, therder, that's a whale of a debt that we are trucking down the road.......
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 12:02:40 AM

Well the latest budget proposal has been released by the Obama administration. A lot of bragging about how it has "stabilized the debt to GDP ratio". That sounds good but the interest on the debt alone will soon be more than defense spending. Our road to ruin continues...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 11:32:43 AM

It's currently $17,297,678,700,000 and climbing.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2014 9:52:06 AM

Debt Up $6.666 Trillion Under Obama

I guess this administration believes in pedal to the medal... on spending...

Oh Jobs, ??? nahhhh...

disregard the 666 number....

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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2013 10:16:11 AM

karl13 said: "As high as necessary to keep the economy moving forward."

Pedal to the metal, eh?

About as responsible as a drunken teen behind the wheel of daddy's Ferrari, these Democrats are!
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2013 9:44:34 AM

"Reb, you should know by now, new revenue = new spending. Every time"

Illinois is the perfect example of that. They increased the tax rate 66% with the "intent" of balancing the budget. Three years later the state is even further in debt then it was before the tax increase...
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Reb, you should know by now, new revenue = new spending. Every time.

The last chance for anything approaching a sane, responsible budget (that might someday reduce the debt) went away this week by a vote of 332-94. Congress voting for more spending now on a thin promise of future fiscal responsibility has been shown to be a strategy that both works and doesn't work. It works for the reps voting for it, and it doesn't work for the nation's financial health.
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2013 6:05:24 AM

While we in the United States continue to let our deficit explode China is negotiating currency swap agreements with Europe, S. America, and the Middle East oil producers, and freezing out the dollar as the global reserve currency. China is also the world's largest buyer of physical gold, and has invested in every major gold producing company. The intent is obvious. China intends, at some point, to couple their currency to gold, silver, rare earth minerals, etc., and replace the dollar which is based on nothing except it's "reserve currency" status and ties to oil....the petro dollar. The petro-dollar is going to ultimately fail. The Chinese currency will ultimately come to dominate world trade. Once the dollar is no longer the defacto "reserve currency" we will be like Greece.
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2013 8:55:39 AM

this is still growing by leaps and bounds... the new taxes going into effect next year should help, if they would use the collected revenue to pay down the national debt....

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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2013 7:45:37 PM

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Fed Official Appologizes for Quantitative Easying!

From the link, "I can only say: I'm sorry, America," he wrote. "The central bank continues to spin QE as a tool for helping Main Street. But I've come to recognize the program for what it really is: the greatest backdoor Wall Street bailout of all time."

Huszar told "Fast Money" that the bond-buying program, which was supposed to increase credit availability to consumers and businesses, didn't do so.

"There was actually a net decrease in mortgage lending," he said. "In fact, until 2012 mortgage lending was at a 15-year low."

QE's de facto support of the stock market left out a sizable portion of the people it was supposed to help, Huszar added. "
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2013 1:06:31 PM

It's currently $17,141,247,000,000 and climbing.

How's that HOPE and CHANGE working for you?
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