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runningmp

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2011 9:30:19 PM

In August 2005, poster Chevy12 created a topic called - Gas Prices Won't Go Down Ti'll GWB Is Out Of Office! I wonder how many posters out there are now feeling the same way about President Obama.

Using the Gas Prices tab you will find that on Jan. 29, 2009 regular gasoline in the Coastal Bend was around $1.60 a gallon. It currently is at $3.09 and only 70 cents away from the $3.79 price set in 2008. Go to Chicago using the same time period it was $1.94 on Jan. 29 and is currently at $3.44 to $3.72.

Barack Obama on Gas Prices, in Indianapolis
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 1:25:53 PM

"If a republican were in office they would have their panties wadded up so tight they couldn't breath..."

Yes, each side has its extremists who aren't grounded in reality... They are best ignored.
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 12:08:07 PM

On the gas price conversation: I would like to know where all the lefty ravers are now that the price is so high. They were jumping out windows when the price got high under Bush, where are the hypocrites at now, why aren't you posting the prices on an hourly basis, the obummer media ignores it. I believe they are lower than whale manure. If a republican were in office they would have their panties wadded up so tight they couldn't breath...where you hypocrites hiding now?
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 4:12:09 PM

.
. This thread is DEAD because it's an EvilBushie LIE...!!!

.
. 8 Years of EvilBushJr. gave us increase from 50c/gallon --> to a whopping $5.00/gallon gasoline... 6 years later, 6 Years of Obama has given us only $3.09/gallon as of today... surely Obama can get it as high as EvilBushJr. did, since he has 6 more years of inflation to help... but, I guess not... gas will stay lower under Obama...

. "In the summer of 2008 — Bush’s last year in office — gasoline prices climbed above $4/gallon for nine straight weeks on the back of oil prices that reached nearly $157.50/barrel" And gas went up to $5/gal...

http://www.energytrendsinsider.com/2012/09/15/gasoline-prices-doubled-under-obama- true-or-false (False)

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 9:07:26 AM

"liberal posters did it for the topic on President Bush. Just returning the favor."

And 2 wrongs have never made a right - try to rise above those petty liberals, rather than joining them in the muck (as they were equally foolish for tying W to gas prices)!
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 12:36:40 AM

The thread isn't dead until it meets the 60 day requirement and as long as President Obama is in office this topic will stay active if you like it or not....liberal posters did it for the topic on President Bush. Just returning the favor.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2014 9:14:39 AM

"Not doing anything wrong there Weasle...has it met the two months or more standard as set by the Moderators or it it just an arbitrary number your pulling out out thin air?"

LOL, bumping it yourself such that it has 'somebody' posting in it within 60 days doesn't mean that this isn't a dead thread, kiddo...

Let it go 60 days and see if anybody else posts in it - Wanna bet on the outcome, since you seem to want to 'win' at something here?

;)

The fact that you apparently believe the title of the thread speaks volumes...
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2014 10:45:44 PM

.
. 8 Years of EvilBushJr. gave us 50c/gallon --> $5.00/gallon gas... 6 years later, 6 Years of Obama has given us only $3.13/gallon as of today... surely Obama can get it as high as EvilBushJr. did, since he has 6 more years of inflation to help... but, I guess not... gas will stay lower under Obama...

. "In the summer of 2008 — Bush’s last year in office — gasoline prices climbed above $4/gallon for nine straight weeks on the back of oil prices that reached nearly $157.50/barrel" And gas went up to $5/gal...

http://www.energytrendsinsider.com/2012/09/15/gasoline-prices-doubled-under-obama- true-or-false (False)

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[Edited by: BuzzLOL at 8/3/2014 10:46:17 PM EST]
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2014 10:33:57 PM

>>Weasle, At least you know what you are doing by bumping this dead thread is wrong...<<

Not doing anything wrong there Weasle...has it met the two months or more standard as set by the Moderators or it it just an arbitrary number your pulling out out thin air?

Let's see what Rule #13 has to say - Please do not bump old, inactive threads. If a topic has been inactive for TWO months or more, please do not post in it. If you want to post to an older topic, please let Admin know beforehand so we can make a note of it and ask other members not to report you for doing it.

So you lose again since it hasn't met the 60 days or more standard. Keep your day job....
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2014 10:27:09 PM

A number of writers, including me, have criticized the Obama administration for its “war on energy.” However, this charge is not really the correct one. President Obama is, in fact, waging a war on American consumers and workers. Energy — especially fossil fuels — is only a weapon. An early clue came when he appointed Steven Chu, who said he wanted to “boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” as his first secretary of energy. We should have known then that Mr. Obama was throwing the American consumer under the bus, albeit one more costly to operate.

OWENS: Casualties in Obama’s War on Energy
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 2:56:55 PM

. 8 Years of EvilBushJr. gave us 50c/gallon --> $5/gallon gas... 6 years later, 6 Years of Obama has given us only $3.14/gallon as of today... surely Obama can get it as high as EvilBushJr. did, since he has 6 more years of inflation to help...

. "In the summer of 2008 — Bush’s last year in office — gasoline prices climbed above $4/gallon for nine straight weeks on the back of oil prices that reached nearly $157.50/barrel"

http://www.energytrendsinsider.com/2012/09/15/gasoline-prices-doubled-under-obama- true-or-false

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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 11:48:33 AM

On the bright side, I have become a better money manger of the family budget during the last several years. Living within our means is a good feeling.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 9:36:04 AM

There it is! Another Shameless Bump...

"Quite a few posters were consistently blaming President Bush for the high price of oil/gas....so I'll apply the same standards they used and use it on President Obama."

It was wrong for them to make that connection to W, and it is wrong for you to do the same with Obama. Why stoop to this level? Shouldn't you want to be better than your opposition?

"Sorry guys...this topic will stay active till President Obama leaves office."

At least you know what you are doing by bumping this dead thread is wrong. Now if you could just refrain from actually doing it...
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 1:33:30 AM

"We're going to see the highest July 4th prices since 2008, and we probably wouldn't have, if it weren't for Iraq," Tom Kloza, GasBuddy.com’s chief oil analyst, told CNBC.

"I certainly would not rule out if something happens near Basra or south of Baghdad, we would see national prices make a pass at $4,” said Kloza.

Happy Birthday, America

Sorry guys...this topic will stay active till President Obama leaves office. Quite a few posters were consistently blaming President Bush for the high price of oil/gas....so I'll apply the same standards they used and use it on President Obama.

Such an intelligent response Buzz....keep using those Democrat talking points. Your making them boys/girls so proud of you..
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 4:44:21 PM

"Also note it's the OP that keeps bumping it..."

Precisely - which is the only reason I call it out...

I promise not to post anymore either SE3.5 ;)
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 12:48:56 PM

"Note that I don't post on it until it has already been bumped after its month-long hiatus ;)"

Duly noted. Don't post and eventually the bumping will stop. I promise not to post anymore.
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 12:43:14 PM

. Also note it's the OP that keeps bumping it... EvilBushies like to keep perpetuating their lies... as Hermann Goehring said, keep telling a lie, always tell the same lie, never deviate from a lie, never admit it's a lie, and, eventually, at least 40% of the people will be gullible enough to come to believe it...
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[Edited by: BuzzLOL at 5/23/2014 12:50:14 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 12:39:10 PM

"It will always get bumped until it gets zero response. By responding you ensure its next bump."

Note that I don't post on it until it has already been bumped after its month-long hiatus ;)
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 10:50:32 AM

. Gas is already down from the $4.50 - $5/gallon it was at Summer of 2008 under exPres. EvilBushJr...
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 10:03:19 AM

"another obligatory bump of a dead, pointless thread..."

It will always get bumped until it gets zero response. By responding you ensure its next bump.
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 9:17:35 AM

"Not only will gasoline not drop precipitously while Obama is in office, it won't while the next President is in office."

Correct. Unfortunately the originator of the thread refuses to accept this common knowledge and instead prefers to bump his thread every 6-8 weeks...
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 9:14:20 AM

Hey, and there it is, another obligatory bump of a dead, pointless thread...
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 12:42:47 AM

Gasoline is traded on the markets, speculators can bump oil, or gas, or both, and drop oil, or gas, or both when they want to take profit.
Speculators and traders use world conditions to decide what to do with market trades, happenings anywhere in the world, refinery conditions, weather, politics, you name it, all influence whether traders put gasoline up or not. Gasoline can be bid up even when oil is dropping.

Not only will gasoline not drop precipitously while Obama is in office, it won't while the next President is in office.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 5/23/2014 12:44:51 AM EST]
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 12:06:35 AM

By now every driver knows the drill: The price of gasoline ratchets up, there's an outcry among motorists who feel gouged at the pump and then things settle down as the higher price becomes the new normal.

Well, AAA has come up with a sobering statistic: the average price of gasoline will surpass $3 per gallon Tuesday for the 1,000th consecutive day. That's never happened before, the motoring organization says.

Gas Prices Set Record

The consecutive day streak is over 1,200 days and counting.
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 12:50:32 PM

. EvilBushies pushing for WWIII in Ukraine and N.Korea/Japan areas affecting gas prices now... U.S. troops being moved from closed war in Afghanistan to Ukraine west border, Russian troops to east border... U.S. destroyer ships being moved to Japan area... also to China/Philippines area seas...
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 11:30:10 AM

"It has jumped about $0.50 in the last 2 weeks around here. We were just around $3.00 and now it is over $3.50. I have not seen anything that would make it go up that fast."

Spring refinery maintenance. When you decrease supply and demand doesn't fall...
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 10:52:19 AM

. FACT is, gas prices here in N.W. Ohio went UP to $4.50 - $5/gallon by Summer 2008 under exPres. EvilBushJr...!!! ... Gas has NEVER been that high even here 6 years later under Pres. Obama...!!!

. Gas today here is at $3.32/gallon and dropping daily now that the coldest, snowiest winter in our history is FINALLY drawing to an end... it got up into the $3.40's as a result of the weather creating a huge draw on heating energy and making fuel deliveries difficult to impossible at times... we're now looking forward to gas prices back down into the $2's in a couple weeks and even into the $1's eventually this year... part of the 'peace dividend' from Obama ending the unneeded BushJr. wars/killing/wounding... did you notice we now go days, even weeks, even MONTHS now without any of our wonderful troops/children being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan...???
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 10:51:59 AM

Gasoline is a world commodity. Supply and demand in Wisconsin does not determine the price. Worldwide supply and demand determines the price.
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 10:47:19 AM

Gas prices will go down when supply exceeds demand, which is more likely to occur when the "free market" is really free."

The USA is a major exporter of gasoline.

Price check?
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 9:44:12 AM

It has jumped about $0.50 in the last 2 weeks around here. We were just around $3.00 and now it is over $3.50. I have not seen anything that would make it go up that fast.
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 9:37:42 AM

Gas prices will go down when supply exceeds demand, which is more likely to occur when the "free market" is really free.
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 9:37:15 AM

"Weasle, sorry but your definition of bumping a topic doesn't meet the moderators criteria. Better luck next time."

Another obligatory bump of a dead thread. SMH...
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 6:51:41 AM

I agree
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 12:13:37 AM

>>Buzz, part of the 'peace dividend' from Obama..<<

Peace dividend? Why all the drone strikes if there's peace?
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 12:12:23 AM

Weasle, sorry but your definition of bumping a topic doesn't meet the moderators criteria. Better luck next time.

[Edited by: runningmp at 4/8/2014 12:12:41 AM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 5:10:31 PM

LOL, another sad bump of a dead (and misguided) thread... Let it go already runningmp.
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 10:22:34 AM

. FACT is, gas prices here in N.W. Ohio went UP to $4.50 - $5/gallon by Summer 2008 under exPres. EvilBushJr...!!! ... Gas has NEVER been that high even here 6 years later under Pres. Obama...!!!

. Gas today here is at $3.24/gallon and dropping daily now that the coldest, snowiest winter in our history is FINALLY drawing to an end... it got up into the $3.40's as a result of the weather creating a huge draw on heating energy and making fuel deliveries difficult to impossible at times... we're now looking forward to gas prices back down into the $2's in a couple weeks and even into the $1's eventually this year... part of the 'peace dividend' from Obama ending the unneeded BushJr. wars/killing/wounding... did you notice we now go days, even weeks, without any of our wonderful troops/children being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan...???
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 12:07:06 AM

From the base post: "In August 2005, poster Chevy12 created a topic called - Gas Prices Won't Go Down Ti'll GWB Is Out Of Office! I wonder how many posters out there are now feeling the same way about President Obama."

--I agree. How many hypocrites are now being quiet about this now that prices are starting to go up like crazy? Again, why aren't these same idiots also suggesting that Obama could call up the oil company CEOs and order them to lower prices?
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 11:05:46 PM

Thanks to all the govt "dumbing down" of our motor fuels, we are not making much ground with fuel economy improvements. Your typical fuel sipper car today gets the same MPG as a decade ago - 32-33 HWY! We probably could be in the 40s by now if we had not tampered with fuels -- 33+ Summer blends! So we burn more gas for cleaner air?

Also, hydrotreating uses steam (aka fresh water supply) to remove sulfur which a portion is discharged in the atmosphere as a gas. The remaining liquids are recycled for a while then "cleaned" and sent to your local wastewater treatment pant (and returned to your faucet).

Yeah, sounds yummy -- makes me glad I am at the top of the County's water table!

I don't believe that we are making any environmental gains, just shifting pollution around and patting ourselves on the back

Ever hear of the law of diminishing returns? Sulfur has been reduced 90% the pasted decades. Passing along $10B in regulatory costs to eliminate the final traces of sulfur will not be measurable in the environment.

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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 9:25:14 PM

The Environmental Protection Agency announced rules Monday to slash sulfur in gasoline by two-thirds as a way to reduce smog and the respiratory problems that it can cause.

Once fully implemented in 2025, it says they'll add $72 to a car's sticker price and two-thirds of a penny to per-gallon gasoline costs.

EPA Slashes Sulfur Allowed in Gasoline

I highly doubt the 2/3's of a penny increase. When they lowered the sulfur allowed in Diesel the NRDC said it would add 5-10 cents to the price of diesel. The price of diesel went up over $1 a gallon and hasn't returned to the price level ($2.95 in the Coastal Bend) before the rules went into place.
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Obama Not Ruling Out U.S. Military Action In Congress

WASHINGTON—Following years of continued fighting and disorder in the troubled region, President Barack Obama revealed today that he has not ruled out taking immediate and decisive military action in the United States Congress.
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2014 9:28:10 AM

"Just get use to it that this topic will stay live till President Obama leaves office.

Of course it will, because you'll keep bumping the dead thread... LOL That still doesn't mean, btw, that Bush nor Obama have any powers over the private sector nor the Free Market.

"That's the best argument you got?"

Funny, I was thinking the same about your posts trying to prove Obama wrong because of a '1 cent decrease' in the price of gas'...

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 1/21/2014 9:27:19 AM EST]
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2014 9:24:59 PM

>>It was, hence your selfish bump. But hey, ell yourself whatever you like, lol! ;)..<<

Not even close...didn't meet the deadline of two months (i.e. 60 days or more). If it was past two months it would have been locked which it wasn't. Just get use to it that this topic will stay live till President Obama leaves office. Liberals on the left had no problem blaming President Bush for high gas prices so I'm just returning the favor.

>>Ah, I see, so 1 cent is a win in your world. Gotcha. <SMH>..<<

That's the best argument you got? As pointed out before if offshore oil reduces the price of gasoline at the pump it negates the point he tried to make. Using words like would not, will not make fact checkers cringe because it's easy to rebut that type of statement.
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2014 9:53:10 AM

"Thread wasn't dead according to the standard set by the mods...not your standard."

It was, hence your selfish bump. But hey, ell yourself whatever you like, lol! ;)

"Nope...you brought up transparent. So I gave you an example of transparency."

So then you could also have posted about glass, under that logic. C'mon, man.

"I'm well aware of supply and demand but to say that offshore drilling will not lower prices today, tomorrow or five years from now wouldn't hold water. If the price of gasoline went down one cent it rebuts that claim."

Ah, I see, so 1 cent is a win in your world. Gotcha. <SMH>
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 12:20:29 AM

>>Weasle, You don't understand global supply and demand - point taken...<<

I'm well aware of supply and demand but to say that offshore drilling will not lower prices today, tomorrow or five years from now wouldn't hold water. If the price of gasoline went down one cent it rebuts that claim.

Fact checkers have continually nailed President Obama when he makes blanket statements.
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 12:04:48 AM

>>Weasle, Dunno why you can't just admit that you bumped your dead thread...<<

Thread wasn't dead according to the standard set by the mods...not your standard.

>>Wrong thread...<<

Nope...you brought up transparent. So I gave you an example of transparency.

[Edited by: runningmp at 1/18/2014 12:05:10 AM EST]
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"Obama may have stalled long enough on Keystone. Looks like the Canadians are building their own pipeline and selling the oil to China and Japan. Swift move, Barack!"

What do people not understand about global supply? SMH
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 9:42:16 AM

Obama may have stalled long enough on Keystone. Looks like the Canadians are building their own pipeline and selling the oil to China and Japan. Swift move, Barack!
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 9:25:28 AM

"Nearly two months isn't as much as two months or more. Don't need to be transparent. This topic will stay alive as long as President Obama is in the White House so get use to it."

Dunno why you can't just admit that you bumped your dead thread...

"Transparency...would that be the same thing that was promised by President Obama when he became President...because that sure hasn't happen. You want your shining example....the Health Care Debate."

Wrong thread...

"Re-read what I posted again. Remember his administration was held in contempt of court."

You don't understand global supply and demand - point taken.
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 9:23:37 AM

"And WHY are they being shuttered?"

I just told you, they were more expensive to run thus costing the company running it profits. Here are the details;

Older refineries were set-up to run sweet-crude, which is the most expensive, but most easily convertible, form of oil. As new refineries were built/retro-fitted that could handle other forms, less demand was required of these older refineries such that their utilizations went down. When a refinery is not utilizing its capacity, it becomes a money loser - hence the closure of older refiners.

"And NO new refineries built since the 70s?

Hmmmmmmm?"

Because 'current' refineries simply added to their existing capacity for the last 30 years. Do you really think we are running under the same amount of capacity from the 70's? That would be quite laughable...
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2014 9:31:31 PM

>>Weasle, Um, 'nearly' two months with no posts, and you decided to bump your own topic. Pretty transparent...<<

Nearly two months isn't as much as two months or more. Don't need to be transparent. This topic will stay alive as long as President Obama is in the White House so get use to it. Transparency...would that be the same thing that was promised by President Obama when he became President...because that sure hasn't happen. You want your shining example....the Health Care Debate.

>>And not making a bit of difference with regards to the price of gas. This was already explained, please read again...<<

Re-read what I posted again. Remember his administration was held in contempt of court.
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