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ldheinz

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2010 5:17:33 AM

This topic is for a discussion on whether or not Marijuana should be legalized.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 12:50:20 AM

Reading further in rumbleseat's link, starting paragraph 9 it says:

"Drivers who were four to seven times over the state’s legal limit for driving under the influence of marijuana were sent out on a closed course. Under the supervision of law enforcement and driving school instructors, the volunteers, who were sufficiently high by the time they got behind the wheel, were asked to negotiate the course while a driving instructor gauged their facility to operate the vehicle.

Surprisingly, it took the subjects’ smoking nearly a gram of pot before the driving instructor deemed them unfit to drive. The results of the driving experiment gives support to those who say driving while stoned is far less dangerous than driving drunk.

“Here’s what we do know,” Jenny Hollander writes for Bustle. “Stoned drivers behave differently from drunk drivers. Stoned drivers are more aware that they’re intoxicated — the opposite applies for drunk drivers — and so they tend to actually drive more slowly and carefully. Therefore, drivers who are a little stoned are generally safer drivers than those who are a little drunk. As a rule, drunk driving has been understood to be far more dangerous than driving when high.”

So drivers had to take up to SEVEN TIMES the legal limit of pot before they were found to be impaired. The same doesn't hold true for alcohol.

That seems to be a good article supporting the legalization of pot.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 11:33:12 PM

rumbleseat, the link tool has a bug in that it can't handle long URLs. Use tinyurl.com to get around that.

Strange, isn't it, that people study the same thing and get opposing results? Let's look at their methodology. They are claiming that "Currently, one of nine drivers involved in fatal crashes would test positive for marijuana,". So if testing keeps getting more sensitive and accurate (which is the case) we would see a strong increase in the number of non-stoned people who have used marijuana in the last month or more. Which happens with NO increase in accidents or drug use. Did they compare this with the number of non-accident people who test positive for having used marijuana some time in the past, to use as a control group? It doesn't appear to be the case. Did traffic fatalities increase? Not at all. So all that the study indicates is that testing methods have improved, not that the roads are more dangerous.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 11:02:45 PM

AnotherOne - "The Governor of Colorado says that legalizing marijuana was a bad idea!"

So, basically, he's worried about conflicts with federal law: "He said that he tells other governors to “wait a couple of years” before legalizing marijuana as Colorado continues to navigate an unknown, nonexisting federal regulatory landscape for the industry." It's got nothing to do with the realities of pot use.

You really ought to read more than just the title and the first couple of paragraphs.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 10:57:41 PM

rumbleseat - "Is Driving While High Dangerous? Fatal Car Accidents Involving Marijuana Triple Over 10 Years"

The usual question: does the study actually measure "Driving While High", or are the results based simply on detection of the metabolites that linger for days or weeks after being high?

And is the increase due to pot causing accidents or simply due to more people using pot?

[Edited by: rjhenn at 1/24/2015 10:58:53 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 1:45:57 PM



The Governor of Colorado says that legalizing marijuana was a bad idea!

And just how bad will become increasingly obvious.

Governor: Legalizing pot was bad idea

"Colorado’s decision to legalize marijuana was a bad idea, the state’s governor said Friday.

Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat who opposed the 2012 decision by voters to make pot legal, said the state still doesn’t fully know what the unintended consequences of the move will be.

“If I could've waved a wand the day after the election, I would've reversed the election and said, 'This was a bad idea,’ ” Hickenlooper said Friday on CNBC's “Squawk Box.”"

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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 1:34:02 PM

"Many pot smokers will tell you that driving under the influence of marijuana is actually safer than driving sober, their logic being that pot smokers tend to drive under the speed limit and use their paranoia to focus on the road. But new research is showing a darker side to the popular conviction that driving while stoned is no big deal."
[L=http://www.ibtimes.com/text deleted Driving While High Dangerous? Fatal Car Accidents Involving Marijuana Triple Over 10 Years[/L]
Dang, Insert link function is stoned again!
Is Driving While High Dangerous? Fatal Car Accidents Involving Marijuana Triple Over 10 Years



[Edited by: rumbleseat at 1/24/2015 1:38:04 PM EST]
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 10:44:15 AM

SE3.5 - "Ask any toker--they think weed makes them brilliant. "

Drinkers think they're smarter too, not to mention more sexy and better looking. And yet alcohol is legal and pot isn't.

So what's your point?
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 9:54:49 AM

ldheinz - "Nobody said that being stoned was better than being straight, malcm. It is better for society than being drunk, however, and having people stoned instead of drunk makes the highways safer. "

SE3.5 - "Ask any toker--they think weed makes them brilliant. "

So never mind scientific studies showing that legalizing marijuana lowers traffic fatalities? From the article:

"A similar study by the NHTSA shows that drivers with THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) in their system have accident responsibility rates below that of drug free drivers."

So stoners are safer drivers than straight drivers, too. Why are you against saving lives, SE3.5?
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 9:33:13 AM

Of course you see danger ahead.

But there cannot be real progress without risk.

Meanwhile, for those of us who didn't see the show, you haven't added anything to the discussion.
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malcm
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 7:05:14 PM

A good report on TV "60 Minutes" re. the developing results of legalized pot in Colorado. I may be wrong, but I see danger ahead.
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 9:07:05 AM

"having people stoned instead of drunk makes the highways safer."

Ask any toker--they think weed makes them brilliant.
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 8:54:20 AM

It's not only driving that society was better off with people toking than drinking.

How many times have you heard of people beating up their spouses because they were drunk? Or getting into fights because of being drunk? Committing violent crimes of any kind while drunk?

It happens so often it's almost a cliche, "but your honor, I was so drunk I didn't know what I was doing".

How often have you heard that excuse when somebody was stoned? Have you ever heard them doing those things while stoned?
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 7:01:38 AM

Nobody said that being stoned was better than being straight, malcm. It is better for society than being drunk, however, and having people stoned instead of drunk makes the highways safer.
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 1:14:08 AM

A "mind warp" from ANY substance is unlikely to improve the actions of a user. I fail to see how increasing the availability and use of marijuana could prove any benefit to the public weal.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2015 5:16:16 PM

Study: Long Term Cannabis Exposure "Not Associated With Significant Effects On Lung Function"
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 8:49:09 AM

Quite true, BabeTruth.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 1:25:31 AM

On Jan 9, 2015, fueluser10 wrote:

>>> Tunnl, I've seen a guy vaping on weed in a bar before.. and this guy was bordering on paranoia from the looks of it <<<

So because a guy vaping was “bordering on paranoia” (I am assuming that’s your clinical observation), that proves that people are ‘impatient’ while high on weed?! Your rationale “borders” on drivel.
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 11:25:22 AM

I also note how the bot goes between nearly incomprehensible gibberish in some posts where it's 'responding' to something, to nearly perfect grammar when it's posting what appears to be a prepared narrative.

Such very great differences in style aren't consistent with a real person.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 6:38:08 AM

Study: Pain Patients Report Cannabis Augments Efficacy Of Opiate-Based Medications

[Edited by: ldheinz at 1/10/2015 6:40:32 AM EST]
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 5:57:34 AM

Note how the bot can extract names from the earlier posts, but can't actually respond to what was said. It's just an unrelated comment.

Let's see - can it fix the capitalization error?

[Edited by: ldheinz at 1/10/2015 5:58:39 AM EST]
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 3:13:44 PM

Tunnl, I've seen a guy vaping on weed in a bar before.. and this guy was bordering on paranoia from the looks of it to me causing his wife to have to verbally real him in like a life coach while he's in this bar surrounded by people who were having a nice time with the families who had kids with them and no idea about what he was doing.
One of the bartenders told the guy that he could not smoke the vapor pipe in the bar and he didn't care.. he did it another 5 times while none of the bartenders were physically near him for when they did come near him he dropped it to the bar fast and didn't look happy about having to do that. I felt bad for the wife because of what she was dealing with but she looked like she was OK with it going along with his wants and needs.
I don't have to smoke weed when I have seen the effects it has on the others with them and around them.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 1/9/2015 3:15:14 PM EST]
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On Jan 9, 2015, fueluser10 wrote:

>>> Walking in a pair of shoes down a city street can be stressful or grocery shopping.. is the next pro cannabis complaint going to be that those who are high on weed operate better on their own two feet as they experience life like the non pro cannabis people do?? Man is going to be impatient high or not. <<<

How do YOU know that? Do you smoke weed? If you don’t, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY you would know whether you are just as impatient high as when you are sober. You have to experience BOTH in order to tell the difference.

Why don’t you try it? You might change your opinions about marijuana after smoking some. Vaporizers have become very popular for liquid tobacco, but they also make “vapes” designed for dry weed and can be purchased on eBay. I hear you can also eat it by baking the cannabis into brownies.
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 11:43:36 AM

FU “Does smoking weed add to ones sense of things?”

Personally, I have no idea. I’m not interested in smoking it.

But by definition an intoxicant of any kind, including caffeine, has some effect on how a person senses things.

Since you consider yourself an expert in all things I would have thought you knew that.

FU “If someone smoking weed loses their job for going to work late does he blame the weed?”

What does that have to do with the topic?

FU “If a teenager is enabled by another teenager to smoke weed what teenager is to blame?”

What does that have to do with the topic?

FU “Are these questions nonsensical and not on topic?”

They sure don’t have anything to do with whether or not marijuana should be legalized.

FU “I'm served my country..”

Whoopee! Good for you.

So did I.

So what does that have to do with the topic?

FU “.. and not one damned time would I ever credit a cup of coffee or taking an amphetamine to improving my abilities as a soldier that for that would be stupid of me to have relied upon.”

Did anybody say that it improved your abilities as a soldier?

BTW, were you ever wounded?

FU “TRAINING along with common sense, honing ones instincts as a soldier and being there for each other on the battlefield TRUMPS any kind of talk about coffee or amphetamines as needed assistance's.”

And again everything went right over your head. No surprise.
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 11:37:01 AM

FU “I could be naive and say no one is driving around drunk but the statistics show and say otherwise.”

So why are you saying it then? Nobody but you has said anything like that at all.

FU “I see drivers often 3-4 times a week swerving while their cars and running over the broken lines and the solid lines of both sides of the streets. If a police officer observes this type of action he's going to pull you over.”

I see. So in your expert opinion as a trained law enforcement officer you know for an absolute fact that those drivers are drunk do you? It must be wonderful to be so omniscient. Almost like a god.

FU “If a driver cant keep their cars first at the proper speed limit, because we know that crap isn't happening when some are doing 45-50 mph on the highways when the speeds are posted in some places at 60-70 mph.”

Are you asking a question or making a statement? That sentence doesn’t really make sense. (no surprise considering the source)

FU “Then some are driving 15-20 mph in a 35-45 mph zones. That self created kind of driving style is acceptable to who for that kind driving is as hazardous as can be.”

And how is that relevant to the topic?

FU “So add the high from weed driving participants to the road. That means that 2 out of three drivers are putting the SOBER DRIVERS at risk.”

Could you supply a source for your stats that “2 out of 3 drivers” are drunk?

Because frankly, I don’t believe it and I think that, as usual, you’re just making it up as you go along.

FU “You know what it would seem that we are maybe doing here? Are we maybe trying to subdue statistics because life is such a hindrance to some that being inebriated I guess is the constructive solution to some while it maybe endangers others?”

“Subduing statistics” (whatever it is that means) has got to be better than your making up fictitious statistics to make a point (ie. lying).

And besides, what does any of that have to do with the topic? Remember, this thread is about whether or not marijuana should be legalized. It’s NOT about how 2/3 of the drivers on the road are DUI or any other fantasies you might have.

FU “.. the federal laws in this country were created and passed in direct response to how man can be unto himself and others.”

Huh? What in hell are you imagining now? Are you perpetually high on something yourself?

FU “Society is very patient and tolerates enough already but yet we ask society as a whole to tiredly do it even more??”

Yes, we HAVE been very patient with your drivel but after a couple of years of it it’s getting to be more than enough.

At least have the courtesy to answer questions. You’re the rudest person I have ever had the displeasure to encounter.
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 11:34:53 AM

BT: Does smoking weed add to ones sense of things?
If someone smoking weed loses their job for going to work late does he blame the weed?
If a teenager is enabled by another teenager to smoke weed what teenager is to blame?
Are these questions nonsensical and not on topic?
I'm served my country and not one damned time would I ever credit a cup of coffee or taking an amphetamine to improving my abilities as a soldier that for that would be stupid of me to have relied upon. TRAINING along with common sense, honing ones instincts as a soldier and being there for each other on the battlefield TRUMPS any kind of talk about coffee or amphetamines as needed assistance's.
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 11:15:15 AM

FU “So we are passively grandstanding that the stoned driver is safer then the sober driver?”

Another incomprehensible bit of nonsense from the master of incomprehensible nonsense.

Just what you mean by “passively grandstandinig” is anybody’s guess, but the rest of your sentence is a textbook strawman.

FU “Walking in a pair of shoes down a city street can be stressful or grocery shopping.. is the next pro cannabis complaint going to be that those who are high on weed operate better on their own two feet as they experience life like the non pro cannabis people do??”

You tell us. You’re the one who continually makes nonsensical complaints.

FU “Man is going to be impatient high or not.”

How is that relevant to the topic?

FU “Go play a game of hockey or professional football while fully high on weed and see where that maybe gets the player while the game being played around him is fast as the game might progress?”

It’s been common throughout history to give soldiers some sort of stimulant before sending them out to battle. “Dutch courage” (alcohol) has been the most common but many other drugs, including marijuana have also been used. ‘Berserkers’ were Viking warriors who were exceptionally deadly because they didn’t feel pain because they were high on drugs. Amphetamines and caffeine are still used by the U.S. military.

FU “You sure have weed indulged in opinions and advocating opinions in here one siding the heck out out of how people should I guess view things that is self beneficial to them it would seem.”

More nonsense. Does anybody have a clue what FU is trying to say there? (We all know that he thinks he’s too good to ever condescend to clarify his own mixed up statements.)

FU “SemiSteve: I guess eating should be banned as well as smoking cigarettes or putting on makeup or doing any kind of prep work before getting to work, ladies keeping their tops on instead of flashing drivers of the vehicles who might come within a visual viewing distance of them so as to not distract any of the drivers that come around them or maybe be distracted by a sign on the side of the road advocating the legalization of weed and then the distracted driver rear ending another drivers vehicle because he wasn't paying enough attention the crawling build up of traffic in front of him is moving at a snails pace.”

What does ANY of that have to do with the topic. Do you just post a random stream of consciousness regardless of whether or not it makes sense or has anything to do with what people are discussing?

FU “Or should we ban entirely the daily activities of man altogether this way both sides of the legalization of weed conversation would be right and no one would be wrong...”

More nonsense.

If you want to be taken seriously at least make some attempt to make sense and stay on topic.
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 11:11:53 AM

Yes it makes a difference. I could be naive and say no one is driving around drunk but the statistics show and say otherwise.
I see drivers often 3-4 times a week swerving while driving their cars and running over the broken lines and the solid lines of both sides of the streets. If a police officer observes this type of action he's going to pull you over.
If a driver cant keep their cars first at the proper speed limit, because we know that crap isn't happening when some are doing 45-50 mph on the highways when the speeds are posted in some places at 60-70 mph. Then some are driving 15-20 mph in a 35-45 mph zones. That self created kind of driving style is acceptable to who for that kind driving is as hazardous as can be.
So add the high from weed driving participants to the road. That means that 2 out of three drivers are putting the SOBER DRIVERS at risk. You know what it would seem that we are maybe doing here? Are we maybe trying to subdue statistics because life is such a hindrance to some that being inebriated I guess is the constructive solution to some while it maybe endangers others?
That's not fear mongering to those I'm sure who will state as quickly as they can type and express what they will to the opposite for the federal laws in this country were created and passed in direct response to how man can be unto himself and others.
Society is very patient and tolerates enough already but yet we ask society as a whole to tiredly do it even more?
Then who is really trying to teach who and what here to whom? Are some just basically saying damned to common sense and reasoning things out is the better option?

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 1/9/2015 11:16:59 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 10:31:13 AM

"So we are passively grandstanding that the stoned driver is safer then the sober driver?"

Does it make a difference? Even if legalized, it would be illegal to drive while intoxicated, whether it be from Marijuana or from alcohol...
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 9:56:04 AM

So we are passively grandstanding that the stoned driver is safer then the sober driver? Walking in a pair of shoes down a city street can be stressful or grocery shopping.. is the next pro cannabis complaint going to be that those who are high on weed operate better on their own two feet as they experience life like the non pro cannabis people do?? Man is going to be impatient high or not.
Go play a game of hockey or professional football while fully high on weed and see where that maybe gets the player while the game being played around him is fast as the game might progress?
You sure have weed indulged in opinions and advocating opinions in here one siding the heck out out of how people should I guess view things that is self beneficial to them it would seem.
SemiSteve: I guess eating should be banned as well as smoking cigarettes or putting on makeup or doing any kind of prep work before getting to work, ladies keeping their tops on instead of flashing drivers of the vehicles who might come within a visual viewing distance of them so as to not distract any of the drivers that come around them or maybe be distracted by a sign on the side of the road advocating the legalization of weed and then the distracted driver rear ending another drivers vehicle because he wasn't paying enough attention the crawling build up of traffic in front of him is moving at a snails pace.
Or should we ban entirely the daily activities of man altogether this way both sides of the legalization of weed conversation would be right and no one would be wrong...
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2015 12:52:27 PM

Yes, there are many straight drivers who are far too stressed out and distracted to be as safe as a stoned driver who is aware of the situation, relaxed, and concentrating on doing a good job of driving.

Definitely in this case the stoned driver is safer than the sober one.

Sober drivers can be very dangerous if they are not thinking about what they are doing and instead they are stressed, distracted, and/or impatient.
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2015 10:58:16 AM

SemiSteve - "Take your worst sober driver and compare driving with the safest yet somewhat high driver. The high driver in this case is safer than the straight one. "

Actually, a proper comparison is between a drunk driver and a stoned driver. That's what actually happens. People tend to either get drunk OR get stoned, not both. And drunk drivers are MUCH more dangerous than stoned drivers. In fact, statistics show that stoned driver are actually safer than straight drives, as they are more cautious. There are actual lawsuits in some states to have stoned driving not be considered a DUI.
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2015 7:50:35 AM

On Jan 6, 2015, fueluser10 wrote:

>>> I would enjoy reading a report from Psychologist stating that some high on weed and driving a car on the road at the same time while high is a safer driver then an actual sober one? <<<

First you argue that weed vs. alcohol isn't the point - that your point is combining the two. When I disprove your argument, you now turn around and say it's not about combining the two, it's driving while high on weed vs. driving sober. It is a moving target with you. Bait and switch. That is why people have rightfully pegged you as a bot. Try sticking to one argument at a time, and you just might be taken seriously for a change.

>>> And full legalization is pretty much giving into the situation itself would it maybe not be? <<<

Absolutely not! Legalizing marijuana accomplishes a very important goal: reducing or eliminating illegal drug sales. By legalizing weed, not only is it taxed and regulated, it DRIVES THE PRICE down. What once could only be obtained in a deserted alley from an armed thug will now be available at every corner drug store. Plentiful competition results in drastically lower prices. The illegal drug dealer will see his profits evaporate and will find a more lucrative business to go into. Win-win.
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 9:36:55 PM

FU "I would enjoy reading a report from Psychologist..."

SemiSteve "Silly point."

No it's not. It's a lie.

ldheinz linked to such a report last year and FU refused to look at it as he refuses to look at any information that doesn't support his preconceived and unbendable notions.

So if FU says he'd "enjoy reading" such a report, he's lying because he refuses to read such reports.

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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 7:02:36 PM

"I would enjoy reading a report from Psychologist stating that some high on weed and driving a car on the road at the same time while high is a safer driver then an actual sober one?
And full legalization is pretty much giving into the situation itself would it maybe not be? "

Silly point.

The situation already exists.

Legalization has nothing to do with it.

Take your worst sober driver and compare driving with the safest yet somewhat high driver. The high driver in this case is safer than the straight one.
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:25:49 PM

Idheinz: Tell me, who defines reality in modern society today? The federal banning weed, some of the people on the roads driving around high on weed or drunk from alcohol maybe causing accidents and changing peoples lives for the worse instead of better?
Are those the REALITIES that you are possible talking about or do you maybe mean the "perceptions" of some and that's the "viewing lens" that some individually view reality through?
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:17:51 PM

BabeTruth - "At this point I'm really glad that it is turning out to be a bot because it would be so sad to think that there are people in the world that unfocused on reality. "

Oh, well...
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:14:04 PM

I would enjoy reading a report from Psychologist stating that some high on weed and driving a car on the road at the same time while high is a safer driver then an actual sober one?
And full legalization is pretty much giving into the situation itself would it maybe not be?


[Edited by: fueluser10 at 1/6/2015 6:19:32 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2015 5:26:14 AM

On Dec 28, 2014, fueluser10 wrote:

>>> Weed being easier to handle isn't the flipping point. ADDING weed along with alcohol and then acting how one might and affecting others LIVES with that choice is the VERY glaring point. <<<

And you can turn that around and say ADDING alcohol along with weed and then acting how one might and affecting others LIVES with that choice — may not be the best choice. So just smoke weed, folks. Lest you get “dry heaves,” leave the alcohol for another time.

>>> Medical Marijuana makes sense, making taxation of it makes monetary sense to a degree loosely <<<

In theory, it’s a good idea, but you have to map out clear guidelines for licensing and standards. Otherwise you end up like Hawai‘i where medical marijuana is technically legal, but there’s hardly more than one or two licensed places to obtain it. Not to mention just obtaining a medical marijuana card can be a challenge as management of the program shifts from the state Department of Public Safety to the Department of Health.

Full legalization would be so much simpler.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2014 2:02:25 PM

There are a few chat bots on this site, there is one that posts topics then, implies one is not making sense. I have noticed when his topics are moved off page very little response form it. move it to the top and it responds more.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2014 1:50:50 PM

Only sort of. Like before when we call it the bot just moves to another thread and makes the same sort of nonsensical posts only on a different topic.

At this point I'm really glad that it is turning out to be a bot because it would be so sad to think that there are people in the world that unfocused on reality.
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2014 7:45:59 AM

Hey, at least the bot got turned off.
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2014 2:35:52 AM

fueluser10 - "RAB: Welcome to your alternative education topic forum because weed in this topic forum is heralded and almost put on a pedestal and rarely will you hear negative words diminishing it when its being expressed about.
There's fact... then there is "FACT" that is opinion based because studies and polls have been done and created to help provide pro weed conversation fodder for the pro weed side."

You seem to be confused. All of the above is how you post, except that you're against marijuana, even though you can't actually support your PoV.

That's called "projection" (defending your own behavior by denying that you do it, while accusing others of behaving in the same way you do).
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 6:53:08 PM

Which is what bots do. It's not like they understand what you say, after all.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 6:19:08 PM

And once more FU carefully avoids actually discussing the topic or any points that anybody made and manages to make it all about him and some unintelligible comments that have little or nothing to do with the topic.
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 4:11:51 PM

"Like I have have stated a sober only road is the best kind of road to drive on"

It's illegal to drive while intoxicated. Legalizing Marijuana will not change that. So what's your point?
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 2:22:12 PM

BT is showing off his mindfully crafted comedic skills thus maybe polishing his craft for mic night at a comedy club some place.
It's easy to say someone is WHINING when whats being said doesn't agree with some and their individual pro weed mindset now isn't it?
Weed being easier to handle isn't the flipping point. ADDING weed along with alcohol and then acting how one might and affecting others LIVES with that choice is the VERY glaring point.
Medical Marijuana makes sense, making taxation of it makes monetary sense to a degree loosely but I don't think the words political science want to be dabbled in today.



[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/28/2014 2:27:41 PM EST]
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TuNnL
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 1:05:39 PM

On Dec 25, 2014, RAB2010 wrote:

>>> Why should marijuana be legalized? Americans can't handle their liqueur, or their alcohol. Why would anyone be stupid enough to think they could handle marijuana? <<<

You’re confused. Marijuana is MUCH EASIER to handle then alcohol (liqueur). Alcohol abuse tends to result in nausea (and resulting inability to eat anything), memory blackouts, and hangover headaches quite frequently. In contrast, marijuana is frequently prescribed to STOP NAUSEA, increase appetite and EASE pain in cancer patients. Even the American Cancer Society agrees.
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 12:22:18 PM

SS you are confusing that with the language moonshiners speak!
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 12:20:15 PM

hey ID i don"t know why you are disagreeing i said it is next to impossible too OD on. I have consulted the best on the subject and W.N. agrees with me 100%. i'll take his and my word as being correct!!

and if you go back and read that is what i had wrote "next to impossible too OD on!

what part didn't you read or understand? i know all about cannaboids. you don't smoke this stuff for 45 + years and not know why your migraines aren't as sever as they once were.
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 12:04:50 PM

Sounds like a comment influenced by the heavy use of weed.
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 12:03:46 PM

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