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ldheinz

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2010 5:17:33 AM

This topic is for a discussion on whether or not Marijuana should be legalized.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 6:14:45 PM

malcm - "It sure doesn't seem to make the dumb any smarter!"

Does anything?
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malcm
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 6:11:33 PM

Babe - in 1971 I gave daily prescribed injections to my cancer afflicted wife, and drove to Baja with her for laetrile, illegal and useless in a losing fight. If MJ can help the afflicted, I'm all for it. Recreationally? The problems are there and need to be recognized and addressed. It sure doesn't seem to make the dumb any smarter!
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malcm
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 5:45:05 PM

There's a reported 1 million Americans, ages 12 or older, who receive medically necessary treatment for marijuana use, more than any other illegal drug. What, wrong - an inflated figure? Maybe only 3/4 million? What a relief.
Oregon voting? 13,408 MJ-related arrests or citations there in 2013, up from more than 12,800 in 2012. If it passes, better move there for a ton of fun eh?
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 5:20:46 PM

The degree of usefulness of it isn't the question.

If you want to go that route, marijuana is more useful than alcohol, yet alcohol is legal and marijuana isn't.

Please go to a cancer patient who's taking marijuana so that he can eat, or a patient with chronic joint problems being relieved by marijuana, and tell them that marijuana shouldn't be legalized because it's not useful.

Just because YOU don't find something useful doesn't mean that nobody else does. I personally don't find a crucifix or a niqab or a minora very useful, but there are a lot of people who would disagree. Those are even protected by the government.

I could have used guns as a comparison. Where I live I personally don't find them very useful, in fact I've never had an occasion where I could use one (outside of my time in the military), but you're going to find many people who find them extremely useful.
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malcm
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 4:35:53 PM

Very illogical comparison, that. Vitally useful transportation vs. non-essential drug use. Get real.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 2:00:00 PM

So let's prohibit private ownership of automobiles. After all, using your same rationale, there's widespread damage from driving too.

The majority should not have to be punished for something done by the minority.

"So, again the solution seems to be the repeal of prohibition."

While there is still damage done by alcohol, the benefits of regulation far outweigh the detriments of prohibition. The same will apply to marijuana.

"Lostsa luck!"

All indicators point to legalization of marijuana happening. Whether in 5 years or 50 I can't say, but my guess is that it's going to happen closer to the former than to the latter.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 1:09:34 PM

Why was prohibition of alcohol tried? Because of widespread damage from the drinking, right? So - no cooperation from the man in the street (as he laid there} and it failed. And so the usage AND damage continues. BUT - we can have a cocktail! Whoopee! Is there a similarity here in some respects? I think so.Prohibition of weed evidently is failing and the "gangster" element is raking in the dough. So, again the solution seems to be the repeal of prohibition. Lotsa luck!
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:57:53 PM

fueluser10 - "There's this apparently uncomfortable federal law that bans the use of the illegal drug called weed and it irks some people."

Actually, it's the federal law that makes weed illegal. It's not banned because it's illegal. It's illegal because it's banned. IOW, there's nothing about "illegal" that exists outside the law.

"Yeah, weed and alcohol is educational?"

Yet alcohol is legal, and more dangerous than weed.

"The federal law banning weed serves a purpose and society as a whole but it doesn't deserve the benefit of doubt.. but an illegal drug does?"

And your argument, again, is "the law is the law". No consideration for whether weed should be illegal or not, it is and that's all that matters to you.

"And the law is wrong. (Why put a question mark at the end of this sentence?)"

Apparently because, to you, it's not possible to even ask that question.

"But here's the catch, in today's society kids and teenagers can get weed to right? There is now no such thing as the adults only having the weed, being that kids and teenagers can get their hands on it to right?"

And current law only makes that easier. So that's actually another reason to make it legal and regulated.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:16:58 PM

FU “Its harder? No its not, what newspaper article told you that?”

What newspaper article told you that it isn’t harder?

It’s REALLY easy for kids to get marijuana now. I remember when I was in school everybody knew which kids to go to who could get it for you. There was probably one in every class.

Alcohol? A LOT harder because you couldn’t just go to a classmate to get it, you’d have to find an adult willing to risk arrest to sell it to a kid who wasn’t part of his group.

FU “We kind of live in a society where others enable others to have alcohol and weed.”

Sure we do. But what’s that got to do with your point? Does it tell you which is harder or easier to get? If not, then you have no point.

FU “There was a study not long ago expressing that weed and alcohol usage had gone up with some of the teens.”

So where’s the link to the study? Do you think we’re going to take your word for it when you’ve proved over and over again that you don’t pay attention to what anybody says that you don’t agree with, and that you only read what you want to see and that even then you don’t seem to understand what it is you read?

Either produce your study or don’t waste our time telling us about.

FU “So if someone didn't drink enough alcohol or smoke enough weed.. they haven't lived enough yet?”

A prime example of you not understanding what you read. I didn’t say that.

Reread what I said and see if you can get it right this time.

Oh wait, you can’t be bothered following suggestions or answering questions. So it’s a waste of time expecting you to really understand what I actually said.

FU “DOES LIFE have to be defined by chasing weed and alcohol like it was going out of style?”

I don’t know. That’s your idea so you tell us. I’ve certainly never said anything to imply that.

FU “THIS is in your mind is what kind of an experience that should be indulged in?
How in the hell would that qualify as a life experience that is necessary?”

More gibberish.

FU “I pay attention..”

BS you do! Over and over and over again you show us that you do NOT pay attention.

FU “You and others say the pretty much the same thing almost every day.”

And you don’t?

We at least answer questions. We respond to the points others make. We refute the points that wrong. We post links to the studies that we talk about. We present cogent arguments to support our POVs.

You do none of those things.

You’ve just said pretty much the same thing every day for two years and never tried to support it with any real facts.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 10:57:40 AM

Its harder? No its not, what newspaper article told you that? We kind of live in a society where others enable others to have alcohol and weed. There was a study not long ago expressing that weed and alcohol usage had gone up with some of the teens.
So if someone didn't drink enough alcohol or smoke enough weed.. they haven't lived enough yet?
DOES LIFE have to be defined by chasing weed and alcohol like it was going out of style?
THIS is in your mind is what kind of an experience that should be indulged in?
How in the hell would that qualify as a life experience that is necessary?
I pay attention.. You and others say the pretty much the same thing almost every day. You are a straight up talking points connoisseur.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/29/2014 10:59:39 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 9:53:21 AM

FU “But here's the catch, in today's society kids and teenagers can get weed to right?”

Yeah. So if kids and teenagers can get weed then it means that the law is not working. If it was, then they couldn’t get it. Duh.

So what you’re doing is advocating keeping it easy for kids and teenagers to get it.

FU “There is now no such thing as the adults only having the weed, being that kids and teenagers can get their hands on it to right?”

Wrong.

It’s much harder for kids and teenagers to get alcohol then it is for them to get marijuana, because alcohol is only available from places that have to check ID for young people or risk losing their permits.

But street corner drug pushers don’t care about the age of their customers, they just want to make a sale. And since the pushers are often teenagers themselves then it’s real easy for them to find customers.

FU “Its staggering when some teenagers, college kids and adults have seemingly no issue with bypassing a federal law to get high.””

You mean the same way that college kids and adults get drunk (high) on weekends? I guess you really don’t have much experience with life, do you?

FU “A gibberish use of words I think not.”

Since there is nothing that I said above that you haven’t been told before, and yet you keep repeating the same things without ever making any attempt to refute what I said, then yes, what you said is gibberish.

You don’t bother to pay any attention to what anybody else says but you just keep parroting your mantra as if nobody else made any points whatsoever. So yes, gibberish.

Now if you actually tried to debate the issue and made some attempt to refute any of the points against you, you might be taken more seriously.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 9:20:28 AM

Idheinz: But here's the catch, in today's society kids and teenagers can get weed to right? There is now no such thing as the adults only having the weed, being that kids and teenagers can get their hands on it to right?
Its staggering when some teenagers, college kids and adults have seemingly no issue with bypassing a federal law to get high.
A gibberish use of words I think not.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/29/2014 9:26:42 AM EST]
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 9:02:17 AM

fueluser10 - "But weed should not irk the parents who want their kids not to be around the stuff right? ..."

FU, I've long since lost count of how many times we've said that we're not advocating pot for kids. Adults only. Duh. So, yes, gibberish.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 1:59:18 AM

It's not a bad thing. It is one of God's special herb's. I tell you one thing it sure helps with the pain when you get older.
I'm glad it its legalized in Colorado.

Put it on your states ballot. It will be voted "IN" by a landslide.

We have people moving into our state every day just for the marijuana.

Good luck to all that want it and if you want it bad enough vote Democrat. The ignorant Republican'ts won't have nothing to do with it. They would rather have Cocaine illegally for their private use!
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 1:57:37 AM

Non Gibberish:
There's this apparently uncomfortable federal law that bans the use of the illegal drug called weed and it irks some people.
But weed should not irk the parents who want their kids not to be around the stuff right? They actually get a partial if not slender say in who they want their kids and teenagers to be around?
The last poll numbers that I think were mentioned in here was the the "majority percentage" was at 46-47%? That number does not appear to be across the board via my math.
Then we have 8-9 year kids at a school smoking weed in the bathroom of their school.
We have teenagers sneaking around from one party goers house to another to get high while their parents aren't around it would seem?
Then we have some of the college crowd getting their new life experiences found out through the use of weed and alcohol?
Yeah, weed and alcohol is educational?
Should I go further or just leave the other non mentioned demographic that is savvy about putting together polls and studies that are mentioned from time to time in this topic forum?
The federal law banning weed serves a purpose and society as a whole but it doesn't deserve the benefit of doubt.. but an illegal drug does?
Isn't that what is pretty much being alluded to via some and their pro cannabis POV's?
Weeds right and casual use I guess is somehow right?
And the law is wrong. (Why put a question mark at the end of this sentence?)
Because it would give some something else to bemoan about.
Weed has crap to do with either side of the Political Isles.
Unless its being verbalized as another tired divisive tool to help push the pro cannabis conversation even more by some?
Its about people not politics.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/29/2014 2:04:51 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 1:00:37 AM

fueluser10 - "You can't just arrest someone without one person wanting to press charges against another.. unless someone did something causing a public disturbance and then someone is really inviting trouble for themselves aren't they?"

So people don't get arrested simply for possession of drugs?
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 8:53:12 PM

fueluser10 - "DO YOU REALLY think I say what I say for a websites points? "

We're just speculating as to why someone would post meaningless gibberish. We really can't figure out what you're saying and what is has to do with legalizing marijuana.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 6:51:04 PM

BT: DO YOU REALLY think I say what I say for a websites points?
And tell me how someone can be arrested for violating a law if there is no probable cause to fall back on? You can't just arrest someone without one person wanting to press charges against another.. unless someone did something causing a public disturbance and then someone is really inviting trouble for themselves aren't they?
Like domestic violence, abuse, drunk in public, maybe even high in public, like driving a car while stoned and getting busted at a gas station?


[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/28/2014 7:00:54 PM EST]
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rjhenn
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fueluser10 - "BT: The Laws in this country cant cause an issue for anyone who chooses to violate them and you know that as well I do."

Was that supposed to make sense?

"Man in this day and age has become a product of his own self creating."

Agree with BT: How is that different from any other day and age?

"Rjhenn: So does the "informing information" in this topic forum carry more (Logical) weight then what is available away from the internet?
I think some are as informed as the information expressed to them is tailor made for their ears.. and they like it that way."

Apparently you do, since you appear to only look at information that you know you will agree with.

"But my question is how is one educated when the words heard are what they want to hear rather then actually teaching them something?
That would be like going to school and a kid plays a video game instead of mentally paying attention to the subject contained in his classes text book."

So put down your video game and pay attention to the teachers.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 4:48:00 PM

fueluser10, are you just stuffing together random strings of words? Because I can't make any sense out of your recent posts.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 2:07:18 PM

FU "Hypocrisy.. what a word to wrap the words "double standard" around.
Kind of like hearing someone saying. "listen to my words.. and mentally chew on them. But don't blame the speaking person when the words amount to maybe nothing more then hopeful lip-servicing to highlight a conversation piece for the sake of the conversation piece only."

More apparent posting just to get points.

Or perhaps FU is trying to see how long he can make a post without actually saying anything intelligible.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 2:05:46 PM

FU "The Laws in this country cant cause an issue for anyone who chooses to violate them and you know that as well I do."

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about laws DO cause an issue for people who break them. If they didn't cause an issue then there'd be nothing to stop people from breaking them all the time.

FU "Here's a non futility POV JUST for you BT:
Man in this day and age has become a product of his own self creating."

And how is that any different from any other day and age?

Or are you just posting to get points?
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 12:52:26 PM

Hypocrisy.. what a word to wrap the words "double standard" around.
Kind of like hearing someone saying. "listen to my words.. and mentally chew on them. But don't blame the speaking person when the words amount to maybe nothing more then hopeful lip-servicing to highlight a conversation piece for the sake of the conversation piece only.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/28/2014 12:54:29 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 12:39:11 PM

BT: The Laws in this country cant cause an issue for anyone who chooses to violate them and you know that as well I do.
Here's a non futility POV JUST for you BT:
Man in this day and age has become a product of his own self creating.
Rjhenn: So does the "informing information" in this topic forum carry more (Logical) weight then what is available away from the internet?
I think some are as informed as the information expressed to them is tailor made for their ears.. and they like it that way.
But my question is how is one educated when the words heard are what they want to hear rather then actually teaching them something?
That would be like going to school and a kid plays a video game instead of mentally paying attention to the subject contained in his classes text book.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/28/2014 12:45:50 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 12:45:50 PM

Interesting how FU doesn't like us to mention "the law is the law" any more.

The reference is because way back a year or so ago, FU used "the law is the law" several times as one of his arguments to justify why marijuana should be illegal and to keep the law as it is.

Obviously even FU has finally realized the futility of his 'point'.
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 12:43:20 PM

Alcohol is also produced in the human body in small quantities, as part of the digestive process when bacteria in the gut break down and ferment carbohydrates (sugars) in some foods.

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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 11:53:39 AM

The way that our government is organized this isn't really something that the public votes on. It's something that legislators vote on. That's why we have public opinion polls, to tell legislators how we feel about things.

malcm - "Basically, both MJ and liquor seem to adversely affect the actions and general judgment of the user. "

Yes, that's their purpose. But only alcohol is poisonous, and has serious health problems associated with it. THC is actually produced by the human body, and is therefore non-toxic, and the main negative effects are societal, not physical.

"Can we leave water and caffeine out of the conversation in relating it to weed so to speak? I mean if there has never been a law to ban either of them then what is the point?"

The point is that they are both more dangerous than marijuana, and yet they are legal. They show the hypocrisy of our current drug laws.
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fueluser10 - "IF there was a NATION WIDE VOTE.. legalizing weed would very possibly not make it."

Except that, as pointed out previously, we don't have "NATION WIDE VOTE"s on issues.

"The informed public knows whats going on."

But how much of the public is actually "informed"?

"Weed is harmful to kids, in food or otherwise."

No more so than alcohol, and much less lethal.

"'The law is the law', REALLY you want to play that paper thin card again?"

It does seem to be the only real basis for your positions on pot.

"IS self responsibility hard to comprehend or is it just not verbally stylish in today's way of thinking for some?"

You're not for self responsibility. You're for trying to impose your standards on others, via the law.
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 8:15:10 PM

Basically, both MJ and liquor seem to adversely affect the actions and general judgment of the user. Since this effect is gradual and subtle in the onset, the application of any control by government force gets complicated and widely resisted. However, the damage to society due to stupid behavior is nevertheless, there. My wife and I live in a large retirement community where liquor is occasionally served, as well as lightly served by us in our dwellings, but in the two & 1/2 years my wife and I have been residents, I've encountered no drug or liquor problems here. And there are few smokers - and I haven't noticed any use of MJ.
With age comes a certain amount of wisdom.
Hey, that's what's needed - just a bit more of that!
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"Shock: Not at all. A nation wide vote would be 50/50 information providing in a way wouldn't it? The nation as a whole could express its opinion as whole instead of it being parceled like its been from here and there for the past 5 years."

As I said before, all the better reason to put it to the vote...
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:52:49 AM

Shock: Not at all. A nation wide vote would be 50/50 information providing in a way wouldn't it? The nation as a whole could express its opinion as whole instead of it being parceled like its been from here and there for the past 5 years.
A VOTE at the ballot box during the Election Cycle will always mean more then any study or poll could garner with its "specific word engineered usages."
Oh look, there's an advertisement that's now available on this very website asking "Should marijuana be legalized?"
I wonder why.. Oh because November is almost here and its almost time for the "Parcel Voting" to start up again.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/26/2014 11:58:08 AM EST]
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"IF there was a NATION WIDE VOTE.. legalizing weed would very possibly not make it."

There is one sure fire way to find out... Put it on the ballot.

But then people like FU would be crapping a brick, when it passed...
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 7:27:17 PM

rjhenn: A POLL can garner as much attention as it may according to how a poll is "worded."
You know this strategy creating as well as I do.
IF there was a NATION WIDE VOTE.. legalizing weed would very possibly not make it. That's why its a "safe ideology measure/ strategy" to do vote on Cannabis being legalized for casual use as a guaranteed "SAFE WAY" by doing the VOTE state by state or by a few states at a time this way.
That's called playing "safe voter chess."
The informed public knows whats going on.
Weed is harmful to kids, in food or otherwise.
"The law is the law", REALLY you want to play that paper thin card again?
IS self responsibility hard to comprehend or is it just not verbally stylish in today's way of thinking for some?

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/25/2014 7:35:30 PM EST]
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fueluser10 - "But OUTSIDE of this topic forum and away from the internet across this country I don't think that there is enough support to maintain the majorities support that is maintained in this topic forum."

That's not what the polls say. The trend appears to be towards more support for making weed legal.

"Can we leave water and caffeine out of the conversation in relating it to weed so to speak? I mean if there has never been a law to ban either of them then what is the point?"

That is the point. Weed isn't any more harmful, net, than water or caffeine, either of which can kill you in sufficient quantity, while weed has never killed anyone. Yet weed is illegal. Why?

And "why?" is a question you've never even tried to answer ("because it's the law" is not an answer to that particular question).
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 3:24:51 PM

SE3.5 - "There seems to be some major disagreement regarding that."

Again, keeping pot illegal just makes it more available to kids.

And alcohol does much the same sort of damage to developing brains.
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 12:31:11 PM

"Since pot can't harm the kids"

There seems to be some major disagreement regarding that.
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 11:46:50 AM

Second point of view. In this specific topic forum.. the majorities POV is that weed is right and the law is wrong.
But OUTSIDE of this topic forum and away from the internet across this country I don't think that there is enough support to maintain the majorities support that is maintained in this topic forum.
Can we leave water and caffeine out of the conversation in relating it to weed so to speak? I mean if there has never been a law to ban either of them then what is the point?

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/25/2014 11:52:49 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 11:24:16 AM

Some of mans choices breed violence not the laws.
Selfishness, ego, arrogance, greed, monetary gluttony, being controlling, and power trips seem to be a few of the things man likes to indulge in from time to time besides weed.
It's a wonder that some don't complain about peace in general with so much conflict to look forward to in this day and age.



[Edited by: fueluser10 at 10/25/2014 11:32:04 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 4:14:28 PM

Federal District Court Judge To Hear Testimony Questioning Marijuana's Schedule I Status
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 10:35:27 AM

The foolish law is poisoning our culture. Foments disrespect for the very concept of law and order. Breeds violence.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 9:55:39 AM

Yeah, doesn't it?

Almost anything can be a poison if you ingest enough of it. Even water.

An overdose of caffeine can kill you. There's no known amount of marijuana that can do that.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 9:32:31 AM

"The stuff is a subtle poison - from its growing to its consumption"

That sounds like a line directly from 'Reefer Madness,' malcm.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 8:31:15 PM

Yes
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malcm
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 5:18:37 PM

The stuff is a subtle poison - from its growing to its consumption - in numerous ways we'd (and weed) be much better off without it! That said, it appears to be a losing battle. At least here's one extended family with NO
connection whatever.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:33:27 PM

SE3.5, it sounds to me like parents need to keep in mind that kids will try to steal brownies. Since pot can't harm the kids, there shouldn't need to be a law.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 8:55:23 AM

"Sales of infused edibles make up about 45 percent of the legal marijuana marketplace, said Dan Anglin, the chairman of the Colorado Cannabis Chamber of Commerce." . . . "accidental ingestions have sent children to the hospital, caused an increase in calls to poison-control hotlines and become one of the key measures lawmakers use in discussing whether legal marijuana sales can fit harmoniously in society."

(soure)

[Edited by: SE3.5 at 10/22/2014 8:55:57 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 3:49:37 PM

Legalize it. Tax it. Free-up our judicial system...
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 3:47:57 PM

Correction: The Florida election date is Nov 4th.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 1:28:55 PM

"Why don’t they pass a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as good as Prohibition did, in five years we will have the smartest people on earth." - Will Rodgers
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 9:29:58 AM

The medical marijuana constitutional amendment is up for general election vote in Florida Nov 2nd.

It enjoyed a commanding advantage in the polls until recently when the deep-pocketed forces against it threw millions into a PR campaign. Now it is running at 48% yes among likely voters. That is not even close to the 60% required for passage.

Groups opposing include big pharma (cuts into their pain medication profits), corporatized prison (profits again), prosecution groups (same reason), and prison worker unions (you guessed it).

Money outweighs compassion; as many of those who would qualify for a prescription are the terminally ill.
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