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ldheinz

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2010 5:17:33 AM

This topic is for a discussion on whether or not Marijuana should be legalized.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2014 2:25:56 PM

NHTSA Report: Evidence Fails To Support Proposed DUI Impairment Levels For Cannabis

[Edited by: ldheinz at 12/14/2014 2:28:42 PM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2014 1:55:55 AM

ldheinz - "Yes, TuNnl, let's stop funding the street gangs and drug cartels, and the world will be a much better place."

Not to mention the Taliban and other terrorist organizations.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2014 12:57:43 PM

SemiSteve, you left off your list those who use marijuana for medicinal purposes, where it's more of a need than a want.

Yes, TuNnl, let's stop funding the street gangs and drug cartels, and the world will be a much better place.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2014 8:14:31 AM

You're right TuNnL but the bot doesn't seem able to understand such a simple concept.
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TuNnL
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 6:01:56 PM

The simple answer, of course, is yes. Prohibition of weed only serves to drive up the price — much like prohibition of alcohol made the mafia filthy rich for the same reason.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 11:52:38 AM

Yes, but idh, we did that to learn and confirm if a bot was being used.

Now that we know we can disregard what it posts.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 11:44:40 AM

LibertyGuardian,

What the heck does that mean?

'Potheads' suck?

Well, I guess everybody has an opinion; among other attributes...

Ahem.

So please do enlighten us.

Who is a 'pothead'?

Would that be an individual who uses cannabis all the time? (such as an abuser)?

Would that be an individual who uses it only when they are at home and primarily for relaxation?

Would that be an individual who uses it occasionally, perhaps in the company of friends?

How about someone who does not typically use it as a frequent habit but might indulge once in a while?

Would that include anyone who tried it but doesn't really care for it so typically does not?

Sounds to me like you think once somebody has 'been addicted' that they have to have it all the time and that their life becomes destroyed over it.

Such as the fictitious characters created by Cheech and Chong.

Contrary to that very limited view is the fact that when most Americans use cannabis it is done in a responsible way, much as when they drink alcohol.

Is there irresponsible use? Of course there is, much as there is with many things.

Is it greater than the irresponsible use of alcohol?

Hardly!
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 11:36:04 AM

Howeverr, SemiSteve, botts due yuse keewurdz 2 uhtempt 2 deeturminn whoatt iz beeing sayd, sew knot uzing thehm leevz da bot with nutheeng 2 reespond 2. Eyev alsew notised thatt FU reesponsays cum mutch mor slewly iff weir tawkeeng lyke thiss.

LibertyGuardian, how do you tell? Most people don't use pot in public.
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LibertyGuardian
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 11:07:00 AM

After 71 years kicking around this planet we've very much come to appreciate associating with people who don't suck...that would exclude potheads.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 9:04:45 PM

There is no point in using notbotspeak.

The bot doesn't really understand us anyway.

It just makes random unrelated posts trying to draw us out.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 7:20:01 PM

Jes. Thet duz seam owd four eh who-man. Ecksept du reelidgous wuns butt thay dun't yuz lawjick eethur.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 6:55:02 PM

Survey: Physicians Endorse Cannabis Therapy For Epilepsy

Und u may nowtice thut hee duzent folow leenks, eether.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 12:13:36 AM

Eye ughgree ldheinz. Thet seams to be a guid eyedeea. It wourked beefour und wee whirr freey uv sutch stoopid postes four ugh while und cud haav reel if sumwatt heard two reed diskusshuns.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 8:59:14 PM

Sew, shud wee starred tawkeeng en miss speld wurdz ugan? Att leazt un till da prowgramer showz upp...
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 8:47:15 PM

Fuel, what right do you have to ask questions if you never answer any?
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 7:01:57 PM

In four years it's only responded to what I've said perhaps a half dozen times and it has never, EVER answered a direct question. Not even one simple enough to require only a "yes" or "no" answer.

The closest it's come to response has been to pick out a couple of specific words and use them in a whine about being so hard done by that "we don't debate with it", and yet the one not debating is FU.

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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 4:44:48 PM

See?
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 1:41:23 PM

Here we go "Legalize Marijuana?" classmates another year of lovely and lobbying conversation to be fed with.



[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/9/2014 1:42:26 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 12:41:04 PM

irrelevant and/or incoherent...
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 12:11:00 PM

Yes, definitely a Chatbot. Can't respond to what you say, and changes the subject to something irrelevant.
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 11:35:53 AM

And a second question are some in here who appear to be pro cannabis in nature? Could some maybe not look at you as lobbyists to a certain degree?
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 11:26:08 AM

Shockjock: Some define themselves by the actions that they chose to do around others in public. Then you have the bartenders who have to be drink management specialists?
I'm not a power drinker. IE for example chasing a shot of something with a beer and doing it 5-7 times in a row or someone driving around in their car with a supply of beer and tossing the glass or can along the side of the road somewhere for the rest of society to see?
A big question.. Who's tricking who about cannabis?

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/9/2014 11:33:42 AM EST]
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2014 6:24:07 PM

A computer has no use for alcohol.
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TexBob
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2014 10:11:38 AM

yes
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2014 10:01:32 AM

I find it ironic that FU has such a stated aversion to intoxicating substances, and yet he's hanging out at bars...
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 3:19:13 PM

You could be right Sneakers. It might not even need 50% of the states before the feds finally see the writing on the wall.

However, they are politicians after all, so no matter which party they pay their membership dues too maybe we shouldn't expect too much intelligence out of them.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 3:16:47 PM

FU, I really don't care what your story is about the guy in the bar or what you claim you did or did not do. It's what's called "anecdotal".

When combined with your past history of presenting imaginary situations as if they were fact, the end result is something and that carries very little weight in a discussion of this sort.

Now if you want to present REAL incidents that you can back up with some sort of proof that that's what really happened and that it's not just another imaginary story that you've dreamed up out of thin air then maybe it can be taken seriously.

But we already know you're not capable of doing that. Somehow you're the only person on GB who hasn't yet figured out how to make a hyperlink to something. That alone is very telling.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 2:58:22 PM

The bot's back.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 1:43:50 PM

I predict as soon as more than half the states allow medical marijuana we will repeal Tricky Dick Nixon's prohibition.
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 11:39:43 AM

BT: I looked the other way last night. I could have called attention to the bartender right? But then his wife might have gotten upset at her hubby for not listening to her about smoking the device outside where the weed smoke would have been a lot less obvious.
But we have become an overly tolerating and bending over backwards society for the benefit of some wanting to get high whenever the need suits them right? This is what the past going on six years now has taught me.. weed first life second.. maybe right?
People drink and drive and lives get changed.. Yeah ending prohibition did some of us a favor?


[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/7/2014 11:43:38 AM EST]
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 11:33:55 AM

And how do we know that you were two feet from him FU?

Did you take a photo that you can post on here for us to see?

Was there a newspaper article about it that you can link to for us? (if you were able to figure out how to make a link that is)

No, you can't post the CCTV images here FU, so without proof what you say is pure BS. (no surprise there)

You have absolutely no way to prove to us that this isn't just another one of your made-up stories. And we have no way of knowing if it's imaginary or not.

That's what makes it 'hearsay' FU. It's unsupported and unsupportable by any means. So it's just crap. YOUR behind indeed!

YOU don't believe anything we say, even when we post proof of it. So don't for a second think that you can post anything you want without proof and we're going to give you a pass on it.

I know it works that way with RBR but it doesn't work that way in real life.

No proof? Then it's just made up crap. Apply the same standards to yourself that you apply to us.

[Edited by: BabeTruth at 12/7/2014 11:35:54 AM EST]
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 11:26:27 AM

BT: WERE you there with me? Hearsay my behind.
I was TWO feet away from the guy and every-time he took a puff of of his vaporizer he passed a glance my way wondering if I was catching on to what he was doing?
I could go back to the bar where they have CCTV cameras there and ask them to pull up the footage from last night, does that give you some clarity?
OMG give the law a break.. some people mindfully ignoring the law is not the law not working. Maybe some just don't give a crap about the law and that's how some view it?
If some people need defense attorneys to speak for them in a court of law for ignoring a law.. what are you words for that expressed observation?


[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/7/2014 11:32:27 AM EST]
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 11:08:13 AM

FU “I've been educated by two sources of information providers in relation to Cannabis in general..|

No, you haven't been educated FU.

Being educated implies learning something new and modifying your opinions based on that new information, not just sticking to your own perceptions regardless of the facts presented to you.

What you should have said was “ I've been exposed to two sources of information providers in relation to Cannabis in general, but I've rejected everything in favor of my preconceived notions.”

In short, you weren't “educated”. You merely learned that yours wasn't the only opinion.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 10:57:29 AM

FU “Allegedly was a patron at a bar wrong for smoking weed in his vaporizer and then acting paranoid about it in the process?”

Another of your bits of hearsay commentary which can't be substantiated with actual proof that it happened anywhere but in your imagination.

Sorry, but unless you can prove it it's crap.

FU “I see people smoking weed in plain view from time to time..”

So obviously the law banning marijuana is working, right? NOT!

But you aren't “seemingly” able to see and understand that failure.

FU “Maybe we are living in a time when benefit of doubt outweighs a lot of things in how they are viewed and have opinions expressed about them and maybe we look the other way tell ourselves that things are just fine?”

Another of your strings of disconnected convoluted words that “seemingly” don't appear to mean anything.
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 10:04:17 AM

I've been educated by two sources of information providers in relation to Cannabis in general.. The casual user and the pro cannabis side speaking on its behalf.

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/7/2014 10:06:45 AM EST]
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 9:50:27 AM

Allegedly was a patron at a bar wrong for smoking weed in his vaporizer and then acting paranoid about it in the process?
Direct answer. I see people smoking weed in plain view from time to time so I maybe guess I'm wrong for not saying something about it to someone then?
Maybe we are living in a time when benefit of doubt outweighs a lot of things in how they are viewed and have opinions expressed about them and maybe we look the other way tell ourselves that things are just fine?


[Edited by: fueluser10 at 12/7/2014 9:57:00 AM EST]
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 9:04:03 AM

But then they would have to admit they were wrong. Some people can never do that.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 7:56:50 AM

Yes, it is.

Too bad some people aren't smart enough to figure it out though.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2014 5:43:27 PM

Sure is good to see stupid laws being discarded. Lives are being improved. Government budgets are getting a shot in the arm. Fear is being displaced by respect for good government. Gangs are getting less money and power. Good stuff all around.
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2014 9:57:31 AM

Good one SemiSteve.

Anybody want to take bets?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2014 8:15:15 AM

Looks like the chatbot.

A complete disregard for direct questions; coupled with an attempt to shift the discussion. This type of post is not a response to anything you have said. This type of post can be pre-written and used at any random time in the discussion.

Fueluser, you were asked a direct question. Here is another one; but before you answer, please understand that if you do not begin your post with a yes or no answer then we will be forced to conclude that you are incapable of giving a straight up answer to a direct question. OK? So here is my direct question for you: Are you or are you not capable of giving a direct answer to a simple question?
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2014 11:27:54 PM

Chatbox, or meds?

Hard to tell.
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2014 10:16:58 PM

BT: Refuting.. or as I like to call it IN HERE.. Pro Cannabis filibustering.
If a website is provided in here that is non pro cannabis in nature is gets bemoaned like a "rash" and some of you all in here at the ready with your "verbal skin cream."
Or this website or that website is getting government funding to operate on the internet. Like that occurrence isn't unknown about.
That is a LOGICAL excuse to express to complain and decry a website?
In the 70-80's excuses held about as much water as porous sand does and kids and teenagers got called out for it.
So what some adults are teaching to some young people since the 90's until now about the word "excuse" and what is means I have no idea.
But if the websites that are mentioned in here by the pro cannabis side are mentioned you can almost see some mimed applause being exercised behind the very words that are being used to further more hype about a story, poll, or study that was done in the organized and constructed caring about cannabis being legalized and then is being disclosed via this very topic forum.
When it comes to the law of cannabis being illegal.. and some will treat that law as they may.. IT affects us all, whether some may think so or not.
Could it not be said that those who look the other way when indulging in casual cannabis are maybe not having their way with society?



[Edited by: fueluser10 at 11/27/2014 10:25:10 PM EST]
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2014 11:49:28 AM

So then FU, tell us where you've responded directly to a question or a point that has been made? Or where you've gone back and defended one of your points that we've refuted?

I don't think you can because I don't recall any time you've ever done so. Never!
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fueluser10
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2014 11:23:24 AM

To not respond back, would be feeding into the notion that not saying something is SOMEHOW agreeing with the majority.
Laughing out loud.. right.
Chatbox, or the CLASSICS.. Troll and Strawman. Where would the annuls of debate filled conversation be without those beautifully used words to be added like a lazy spice to enhance the spontaneity of the other words used?
I enjoy the made up names that some use in response to how they view others who express themselves. I feel like I'm back in high school when I see things like that.
Its funny how history can repeat itself with certain words being reiterated. (The front of the middle or high school, homeroom, the cafeteria, and sometimes in the men's room.)

[Edited by: fueluser10 at 11/27/2014 11:31:55 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 3:11:39 PM

malcm - "Care to tell us, ldheinz, - with your tacit approval, what has been the eventual TJ usage of your family members? Generally speaking,is there a tendency to join in? "

Join in with what? My opinions? I've said several times that I don't typically smoke pot anymore.

SemiSteve - "Sounds like a chatbot talking... "

Yes, I think that the bot is back. Note how it doesn't respond to anything that we say.

[Edited by: ldheinz at 11/26/2014 3:12:52 PM EST]
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 2:18:02 PM

You're not the first one to wonder about that SemiSteve.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 1:30:04 PM

Sounds like a chatbot talking...
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BabeTruth
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 1:23:23 PM

FU “Words that get nearly abused in today's view of some words.

1) LOGIC – ok, why don’t you start using it?

2) COMMON SENSE – unless by “common sense” you mean “agrees with FU”, then it doesn’t seem like you use that either.

3) INTEGRITY – and just how do you figure that?

4) MORALS – I think keeping a law where people get killed because of the law is immoral. So is taxing people extra to pay for a failed war on drugs. So does keeping a law that creates a situation that makes it easier for kids to get marijuana than regulation would.
So far you’ve never come up with an answer to any of the above.

Seems like the moral choice is the opposite of yours.

5) SOME FEDERAL LAWS – so another way of saying “the law is the law” and therefore it can never be changed.

FU “Why are these words viewed in such ways?”

Perhaps because you so obviously don’t understand them?

FU “Some have even come to label these words as "placebo hindrances."

Never seen anybody use that term here. I’ve never seen anybody use that term anywhere. In fact I have no idea what it means. Is it something you just made up?ee

FU “For they do not "add" individual verbalized credibility to some who self create ideological dynamics for wanting something to be self serving in their favor.”

You claim that you write normal English and that you’re so easy to understand.

So why is it now that you’ve written two sentences in a row that I haven’t got a clue what you mean?

That’s following some words that you appear to be using incorrectly or have different meanings for than what the dictionary gives.
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 12:38:31 PM

FU, if people have been doing as you say for 2 generations, WHILE marijuana is against the law, what makes you think that keeping it against the law would make any difference?

You talk about rationale, so what’s your rationale?

Why do you think 50 years of something will suddenly change direction when the more time goes on the more it looks like marijuana WILL become legalized?

FU “Or one of these days we're going to change the federal law to have it see things the casual users way instead of society as a whole way of seeing things.”

Look around you. Open up your eyes. It’s already happening in several states.

FU “For one of these days we're going to figure out a develop a voice that SOCIETY will be slowly implied upon and will tolerate listening to because the internet will become our PROTEST and attitude expression device.”

Uh, that’s probably one of the biggest reasons that states are moving towards legalizing marijuana instead of away from it.

Is that the kind of being rational you're talking about?
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