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btc1

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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2009 7:19:21 PM

US Politics Cafe? What does that mean? Well, I email the GM Mod and asked if we could continue to have a place where we could discuss, amongst ourselves, the problems that crop up time to time here on the US Politics Forum. The previous post that was locked yesterday had sort of turned into this. And as a place where we could converse with each other without the pretense of hard left or hard right positions interfering with our communication and the good friends we have developed on both sides of the fence.

The GM thought this might be a good idea and approved it today.

So here we go. We have a place to try to work out angst, or just visit amongst ourselves and JOKE around with friends. The Cafe' is now open for us. We just need to keep everything here civil. Can I set your drinks up for you, Buddy? What will you have? Cheers!
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 1:49:45 PM

"For those who are atheist, well, good luck to you and have a good day anyway."

Thanks AC!
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 1:43:51 PM

+ May the love of Christ fill your hearts +

Happy Easter everyone!
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 11:20:39 AM

For those who are Christian - I hope you find joy in celebrating your risen savior.

For those who are Jewish - Happy 6th day of the Passover.

For those who are atheist, well, good luck to you and have a good day anyway.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 9:46:20 AM

To those who celebrate, have a wonderful Easter!

Have a good day all.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 9:23:00 AM



Good morning everyone.

And HAPPY EASTER!

HE IS RISEN!

HE IS RISEN INDEED!

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btc1
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 9:04:34 AM

A1, "Are you going to be in Jerusalem - to prevent those "evil Jews" from tunneling under the al Aqsa mosque and collapsing it?" Never have I ever referred to Jews as "evil". To make certain everyone knows, that is YOUR terminology.

Have a wonderful Ishtar, Easter, Spring Feast! Someone died and rose from the dead to absolve our sins! I think Jesus actually wanted us to live life fully, as he did to attain the reward of everlasting life. Rebirth is ultimately up to each of us.

We had an unbelievable shortage of chocolate Bunny Rabbits here! I had to get my niece a stuffed Bunny Basket! Several days of looking led to that! She is 50 and needs the chocolate as much as I do! She did find the last one for me! It is 18" tall!!!!! She said she had to fight someone's Grandmother for that!!

[Edited by: btc1 at 4/20/2014 9:06:09 AM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 8:28:23 AM

Morning all, He is Risen in deed....

Thanks for the link on foods Ella

Happy Easter all.

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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 8:16:14 AM

Hallelujah!
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 8:09:35 AM

Good morning one and all. Happy Easter. Have a blessed day, Folks!
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 8:07:07 AM

Christ is risen! Truly He is risen!
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 7:51:05 AM

Happy Easter to all. He is risen.
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KansasGunman
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 7:15:59 AM

"Maybe as proof that Jesus created the second covenant which superseded the first, which required adherence to all those dietary and life restrictions. Just a guess."

.....

Someone gets it right first thing off! Jesus and the New Covenant

Happy Easter...He Is Risen... Matthew 28:6

12 lb whole leg of lamb today...not that we don't like ham as we love it...but we love lamb for Easter!

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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 6:33:20 AM

Happy Easter if it is meaningful to you. Have a great day if not.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 2:13:18 AM

"I am still trying to figure out why since Jesus was Jewish why is there Easter ham? Any ideas, other than it tastes good??"

Maybe as proof that Jesus created the second covenant which superseded the first, which required adherence to all those dietary and life restrictions. Just a guess.
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Elia_1
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 2:10:28 AM

"Easter food symbolism:
...(2) Those items traceable to pagan rites of spring (eggs=rebirth, ham=luck, lamb=sacrifice, cake/bread=fertility)"
Easter foods: history and symbolism

...Ooops! That link I posted a few mins ago didn't work, so I'll try again:

Happy Easter/Passover/Spring Peeps! :D

[Edited by: Elia_1 at 4/20/2014 2:16:27 AM EST]
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 2:02:41 AM

I am still trying to figure out why since Jesus was Jewish why is there Easter ham? Any ideas, other than it tastes good??
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Elia_1
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 1:59:37 AM

...Crikey! It's waaay too serious in here, sooo...to add a li'l levity...

Happy Easter/Passover/Spring Peeps! :D

[Edited by: Elia_1 at 4/20/2014 2:05:38 AM EST]
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HEDGEHOGS
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 9:39:01 PM

Happy Easter to all!
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 7:01:04 PM

Beautiful SoCal day. Cool and breezy. I hope whereever you are, the weather is being nice to you.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 6:52:05 PM



btc, "You do that every day, A1. That special brand of curcifixion [sic] you apply here, every day."

WOW!

The libs are really getting desperate for ways to make personal attacks!

ROTFL

But you have a VERY HAPPY EASTER anyway, btc!

Are you going to be in Jerusalem - to prevent those "evil Jews" from tunneling under the al Aqsa mosque and collapsing it?

SMH



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 4/19/2014 6:52:42 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 6:39:38 PM

You do that every day, A1. That special brand of curcifixion you apply here, every day.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 3:12:31 PM

"However, my problem comes with anyone saying the Jews killed Jesus. The great majority of Jesus followers, at the time of his crucifixion, were Jews. They were devastated--until Sunday."

And Jesus was Jewish as well. Unfortunately he was sold down the river by his own kind for fear of them losing their own power and glory. But what got you going down this path was a joke between me and a couple of friends. They tease me that I only get one Christmas...but then I tease them with pictures of pepperoni, ham, and sausage pizza. Which BTW, they will break with tradition and eat....LOL.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 2:32:01 PM



SE3.5, "Since Jesus laid down his life to reconcile sinners to God, we are all responsible for his death."

Exactly, SE.

*I* nailed Jesus Christ to the cross.

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 2:23:41 PM

"However, my problem comes with anyone saying the Jews killed Jesus."

While the Jews didn't nail his hands and feet to the cross, they did illegally try him and found him guilty and insisted that he be crucified (and letting Pilate know that if he released Jesus [as he was intending] they would go over his head [you are no friend of Caesar])...or as Jesus himself said:

"So Pilate said to him, “You will not speak to me? Do you not know that I have authority to release you and authority to crucify you?” Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.” From then on Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out, “If you release this man, you are not Caesar’s friend. Everyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar.” (John 19:10-12)
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 2:14:15 PM

Norm, I agree with you 100% on this matter.

However, my problem comes with anyone saying the Jews killed Jesus. The great majority of Jesus followers, at the time of his crucifixion, were Jews. They were devastated--until Sunday.

Since Jesus laid down his life to reconcile sinners to God, we are all responsible for his death.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 12:40:10 PM

It was all a part of God's plan, but that doesn't excuse illegal meetings of the Sanhedrin or unjust decisions made by them under the cloak of night:

"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men." (Acts 2:22-23)

Just my 2 cents...
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 12:22:00 PM

A very Happy Easter to all my Gas Buds south of the 49th. We all enjoyed a Good Friday holiday up here.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 10:38:03 AM

Morning all!
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 10:12:20 AM

Good morning, all. Have a lovely day.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 9:40:00 AM

Morning all. Too beautiful not to go out and have fun. Lots to do. Not much time for posting. Play nice and have fun!
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 9:23:31 AM

"I am confused. Are we a bunch of genuflects or not? "

Only if you want to be.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 9:22:17 AM



Elia and SE3.5, thank you. It is so true, He GAVE His life.

btc, I know what genuflecting is.

Just have never heard people being called "a bunch of genuflects" before.

Or have never heard that genuflect was a noun.

Happy Easter weekend everyone.

;-)

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reb4
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 9:14:21 AM

"Christ GAVE his own life so we could have life."

SE3.5, Amen...., though I didn't think this "debate" would go far...

"Must have been something in the air, because my eyes swelled up so bad I could hardly see" Se3.5, it's called spring... If I hadn't gone on vacation last week I might have gotten all choked up about the warm weather as well...

"genuflects" not sure how often I do that physically, but do so in spirit often.... Enjoy the Saturday...
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 9:10:49 AM

"Pilot was the governor. He decided who lived and who died."

Ultimately it was his final decision but he let the people decide after he was handed over by the Jews. He had faced a "court" of leaders, the Sanhedrin, which basically feared Jesus because he was the "King of the Jews" and he questioned their manner of running things in Israel. He saw them as people of greed and not people of faith. After he was "tried" and found guilty and recommended for crucifixion he was then turned over to Pilot. Pilot, I believe it was 4 occasions, refused to crucify Jesus. It was finally after their insistence that he did it. The only reason he did was Rome had adopted a policy of allowing the Jews to have a semi-autonomous governing body to try to keep things peaceful.



[Edited by: AFSNCO at 4/19/2014 9:14:09 AM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 8:56:30 AM

"I must be speaking a foreign language"

Mars/Venus, libs/cons all need interpreters when speaking to each other.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 8:26:47 AM

I must be speaking a foreign language to A1, lately.

Good Morning! Thanks Elia, right back to you!

Everyone enjoy the day!!
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 8:18:16 AM

Good morning. I apologize for making an incorrect statement yesterday. ["He (Pilot) decided who lived and who died."]

Christ GAVE his own life so we could have life.
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Elia_1
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 1:44:52 AM

...Just wanted to take a moment to wish all of you a:

...Happy Easter weekend ...or...

...Happy Passover weekend ...or...

...Happy Spring weekend...

...Have fun every bunny! :)
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 9:11:36 PM



btc, "I am confused. Are we a bunch of genuflects or not?"

???????????????????????????

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btc1
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 9:03:58 PM

I am confused. Are we a bunch of genuflects or not?
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 7:00:45 PM

If you engage a +troll+ because he/she occasionally posts something with which you agree, you may be a "knee-jerk".
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 6:57:56 PM

"When given the chance of crucifying a murderer or Jesus who did the Jews decide to let walk?"

Pilot was the governor. He decided who lived and who died.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 5:43:55 PM

Good Friday is a National holiday here in Canada.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 5:01:00 PM

"It was Pilot who crucified Christ. Only the Romans had authority to administer the death penalty."

Yes he did, but who sent him to the Romans? When given the chance of crucifying a murderer or Jesus who did the Jews decide to let walk?
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 4:18:35 PM

"I usually send them a message thanking them for what the Jews did to Jesus."

It was Pilot who crucified Christ. Only the Romans had authority to administer the death penalty.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 4:05:19 PM

It is Easter weekend and probably will not get a chance to say Happy Easter to those of you that do celebrate. If you don't, I hope you just have a great weekend and buy some chocolate anyway...it does make you feel good!

BTW, I have some fun with two of my best friends on Good Friday. I usually send them a message thanking them for what the Jews did to Jesus. It is all in good fun....they usually respond in kind with a "screw you" (or worse).

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 11:13:17 AM



Good morning everyone.

Still a lot of the 18 inches of snow left here!

I agree SE3.5 and AFSNCO. ["I can't believe he is even ALLOWED to speak here!"]

Have a GREAT Good Friday!



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 4/18/2014 11:14:43 AM EST]
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 11:02:18 AM

AFSNCO said: <<sgm, and that never happens for a liberal to a conservative? I have always argued on these boards that those types of conversations are a two-way street.>>

and

se3.5 said:<<AND vice versa.

Is one of us being a "knee-jerk"? <<rimshot>>>>>

Relax, you two. I was speaking for myself. Just myself. Not responding in a policy-type way, how does this affect everyone. Take it easy.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 10:54:56 AM

Rainy day here in Alabama reb....so take your beautiful weather and....enjoy it. :-)
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 10:52:22 AM

Morning all!
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