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btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2009 7:19:21 PM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse US Politics Cafe? What does that mean? Well, I email the GM Mod and asked if we could continue to have a place where we could discuss, amongst ourselves, the problems that crop up time to time here on the US Politics Forum. The previous post that was locked yesterday had sort of turned into this. And as a place where we could converse with each other without the pretense of hard left or hard right positions interfering with our communication and the good friends we have developed on both sides of the fence. The GM thought this might be a good idea and approved it today. So here we go. We have a place to try to work out angst, or just visit amongst ourselves and JOKE around with friends. The Cafe' is now open for us. We just need to keep everything here civil. Can I set your drinks up for you, Buddy? What will you have? Cheers!

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US Politics Cafe? What does that mean? Well, I email the GM Mod and asked if we could continue to have a place where we could discuss, amongst ourselves, the problems that crop up time to time here on the US Politics Forum. The previous post that was locked yesterday had sort of turned into this. And as a place where we could converse with each other without the pretense of hard left or hard right positions interfering with our communication and the good friends we have developed on both sides of the fence.

The GM thought this might be a good idea and approved it today.

So here we go. We have a place to try to work out angst, or just visit amongst ourselves and JOKE around with friends. The Cafe' is now open for us. We just need to keep everything here civil. Can I set your drinks up for you, Buddy? What will you have? Cheers!

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btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 6:30:21 PM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Was her name Disaster Debbie, airfresh? She needs to notify all authorities, your right! I hope she never has an interest in KY! TT, I have to say, I liked that. But, I like puns anyway. Drink up, Tim. [Edited by: btc1 at 5/22/2013 6:32:44 PM EST]
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,212 Points:826,095 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 4:49:31 PM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse Yes sgm. It started across the river from the city of Springfield. Crossed over the north end bridge hit the Ct River and just gorged itself on moisture to pick up power then crossed Route 91 and into the south end of Springfield. It finally lost power 39 miles east. video shot from a high rise One of the best stories was a woman who was in her car on the West Side and saw it coming and didn't have time to move. She put her hands over her face because the glass in her car was breaking and flying all around her. When it passed and she looked up trees were down and buildings destroyed but she was alive. She had just moved here from NYC. It was her first day on the job. 10 years earlier she had moved to NYC to start a new job. Her first day there was 9/11. I hope she notifies the authorities the next time she moves and starts a new job.
sgm4law Champion Author Maryland Posts:18,811 Points:2,378,630 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 4:21:50 PM Ignore sgm4law Report Abuse airfresh, wasn't that the tornado where a couple of guys filmed it using their phone while they were driving on either 128 or the turnpike?
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 9:39:18 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Wow, airfresh! Funny, t_t.
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:19,651 Points:1,597,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 9:32:27 AM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse Morning room!
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,731 Points:744,585 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:49:40 AM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse Been close to four twisters in my life, one in Kentucky and three in Maryland. Sheltering under a counter while the wind rips the porch off the building is VERY scary. On a brighter note: Anyone heard what the scandal du jour is today? How many people does Obama want you to think it takes to target Conservative groups? One, and the Fifth. Have a great day!
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:31:05 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse airfresh, it is good for all of us to know this devastation can occur anywhere. It is just that "Tornado Alley" has perfect conditions more often than the rest of us. And ours are less powerful for the most part. I can tell you an F1 is scary.
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,212 Points:826,095 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:24:01 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse Twisters can be pretty devastating. We had one not nearly as big as the one in OK. Reports say that was approx a mile wide. Ours was closer to 1/4 wide but as the one btc mentioned it went up and down over hills and mountains. Not sure how long in minutes but it went 39 miles across the state and spurred several micro bursts and smaller twisters of 30-60 seconds that were pretty devastating. before and after satelite photos of the 30 mile scar across the state The most amazing part was that even as it went through a moderate city and through main street Monson and a couple other heavily populated areas there were only 3 deaths. [Edited by: airfresh at 5/22/2013 8:29:10 AM EST]
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2013 6:38:33 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Good Morning! Gotta run! It is all self service, this morning. Hot coffee is on. Enjoy the day!
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 4:51:41 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Wow, btc! 90 minutes AND in hill country?!?! Holy mokes! I would never had guessed that to be possible!
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,850 Points:1,011,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 4:49:52 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Having a home to live in and store the planes in counts for a lot too plastic.
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 4:46:02 PM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Well, last March 2, plastic, there was an F3 that completely destroyed the town of West Liberty,, Kentucky. It was on the ground for 90 minutes, a record length of time for a tornado. It went all the way to West Virginia. And this is a very mountainous area, east of Lexington. So, no place is really safe from these in the US.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 4:12:18 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I just thought it was so you could have wide-open spaces and good updrafts to fly your planes.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,850 Points:1,011,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 4:07:47 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Plastic - why do you suppose I like living in the desert so much? We get an occasional flood out here but if one chooses where to buy his home that is not a major concern either.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 4:00:17 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I was in SF for the Loma Prieta. I've lived in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and a few places in Virginia and have endured numerous hurricanes. Oh, and one big gas hurricane out at sea in the Atlantic. (Everyone should experience 75' waves, dude!) We've had a few EF0 and EF1 tornados here but I really don't think I'd want to live in the flatlands of KS, NE or OK with those monster killer 'nados. That was some scary stuff.
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:19,651 Points:1,597,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 3:49:22 PM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse If have heard the rumble of several earthqukes. I am not sure if I want to hear a tornado going by. Thanks for the link plastic.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 2:39:16 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Wow. My friend's nephew's house is leveled. Just a pile of lumber and debris sitting at the end of a driveway. Family is safe.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 2:32:55 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I just watched a 5-min video that some guy took of the tornado forming, growing and running through town. Very frightening. The sounds actually started to unnerve me. Incredible.
sgm4law Champion Author Maryland Posts:18,811 Points:2,378,630 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 2:29:43 PM Ignore sgm4law Report Abuse The news from Oklahoma is so very sad. The enormity of the destruction is astounding.
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,731 Points:744,585 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 1:34:51 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse Sometimes it takes the worst to bring out the best in people. Thoughts and prayers to Oklahoma today.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 1:00:34 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I can't imagine it either but she has my full respect as one tough cookie. All of her fb posts are very positive and very compassionate.
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 10:53:25 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Wow, plastic! I just cannot imagine what your friend, the nurse, has been through since yesterday afternoon.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 10:32:35 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse >"Sure puts our own problems into perspective, doesn't it?" Amen, Pan.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 10:31:40 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Talked to both of my OK buddies last night. One is ok but a lot of her clients are without a home. The other is living in her cellar with her kids because of all of the damage. She's a nurse so she was at ground zero helping all that she could; her kids by her side. She collected up displaced kids and comforted them and held them until parents were found. Each reunion that she made was tearful and super emotional for her. She's completely drained but she was able to share much good news among the tragedy and devastation and the loss of her own home.
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:19,651 Points:1,597,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 9:28:16 AM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse Morning room!
Panama19 Champion Author Louisville Posts:25,320 Points:2,544,285 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 8:29:25 AM Ignore Panama19 Report Abuse btc1, "Wow! What happened in Moore, OK is just astounding!" Sure puts our own problems into perspective, doesn't it?
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,731 Points:744,585 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 8:11:44 AM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse Wow! Take a couple days off for family and fishing and look what happens. Truly tragic in OK. My wife has relatives there but not in tornado area. Her cousin is in charge of emergency response in Guymon and is on standby now for any assistance/equipment which is needed. If you want to do something useful, wherever you are, call the Red Cross to donate blood. It's always needed and supplies are low from the disasters in Boston and West, TX. Ran a drive last week at my school and collected 23 units. Got 9 keeper [over 12.5 inches] sea bass and a 16.5 inch tautog yesterday. Good eating tonight at my house. Maybe top the filets with some jumbo lump crab meat. Yum! If you ever want to fish a nice, uncrowded headboat, try The Morningstar out of Ocean City, MD. They also do great work with reef building in the area to help protect the spawning areas for the near-shore species. Well OK, thirty miles out is a bit far for near shore ;-) [Edited by: teacher_tim at 5/21/2013 8:13:14 AM EST]
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 21, 2013 6:47:58 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Wow! What happened in Moore, OK is just astounding! My heart is with those families and especially the families who lost children in the schools or elsewhere. SO devastating.
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:26,019 Points:3,136,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:54:02 PM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse honey wagon load #28 was spread about an two hours ago. 80,000+ gallons of fresh country air.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:03:14 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I just heard of the tragedy in OK. So heart breaking.
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 2:19:04 PM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Snnnniiiffff! Ahhh...air freshener does wonders! That and PineSol. No offense meant airfresh! But, the bill for that sewage sucking service is outrageous! [Edited by: btc1 at 5/20/2013 2:19:45 PM EST]
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:19,651 Points:1,597,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 1:53:04 PM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse Smells better here. Much improved.
NickHammer Champion Author Maryland Posts:16,183 Points:2,580,960 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 12:07:35 PM Ignore NickHammer Report Abuse >>...and when you do, all you do is hurl insults and spew hatred; and yet claim to be a believer<< Maybe he's a believer in hate. He's sure not a believer in spelling. The moniker he took for his latest trolling - "John_Bunyon" - is a misspelling of "John Bunyan", the man who wrote "The Pilgrim's Progress". And if he's holding himself out as someone comparable to THAT pilgrim, he's only deluding himself.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,850 Points:1,011,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 11:18:31 AM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Cliff - so now the aroma near you is pungent? Too bad ;-) Try this on for size ---- . . New American Standard Bible When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.
RNorm Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:44,819 Points:778,485 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 11:17:53 AM Ignore RNorm Report Abuse What's disturbing is that some people can't let things go. Why keep coming back to a place where you've been banned; and when you do, all you do is hurl insults and spew hatred; and yet claim to be a believer??
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:26,019 Points:3,136,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 11:02:32 AM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse Slow news day. A ways off on the spreader size. Tandem axle unit . 2,500 to 3,000 gallon honey wagon.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,825 Points:2,839,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:58:11 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Is fly even still around? -- >"Always best not to feed the trolls." Where's the fun in that, Zim :) [Edited by: plastic at 5/20/2013 10:59:56 AM EST]
Zimcity Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:65,399 Points:3,692,535 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:48:47 AM Ignore Zimcity Report Abuse "Next time the best thing to do is ignore him/her. Many of us took the bait and bit. In the future we must resist and ignore him/her." Always best not to feed the trolls.
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:41:28 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse RNorm, yes fly is the only one I have on ignore. The rest is pure sarcasm, though.
RNorm Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:44,819 Points:778,485 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:33:36 AM Ignore RNorm Report Abuse "fly is the only one I have on ignore. Has he not come after JB yet?!! I am shocked! Yeah, shocked..." Please tell me you're kidding.
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:19,651 Points:1,597,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:27:55 AM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse This person whom I will not name has come here for one reason only, to spew hatred. He/she will be gone soon enough. He/she will be back at some point. Next time the best thing to do is ignore him/her. Many of us took the bait and bit. In the future we must resist and ignore him/her. This person got more than his/her 15 minutes of fame. Time to move on.
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,212 Points:826,095 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:43:10 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse Been staying out of politics lately. Still around in the sports threads a little. Stopped in today to check on this thread. Hafta say I'm really saddened and very troubled. I learned as a young boy of the power of words to cut and hurt. I remember a family member saying something when I was around 11 that just paralyzed me. Hit me right in the gut. That relative had very little idea what he was doing. He didn't say what he said to purposely hurt anyone. He just didn't know any better. It's 47 years later and it still has impact. The difference here in this topic is that it's purposeful and with malice and hatred. Times may have changed but people have not. James 3:3-6 "3 When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4 Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell." Pil I thought I understood where your anger came from. Obviously I was mistaken.
Zimcity Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:65,399 Points:3,692,535 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:34:46 AM Ignore Zimcity Report Abuse Well, I see someone's mom left the net nanny off and they got on the computer to troll a bit. One would think a "family" site would have a little filtering for bad language, but I guess not. Unfortunately with it being Victoria Day and all, IT may get an extra run before being sent back to it's room.
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:19,651 Points:1,597,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:26:58 AM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse Morning room!
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:26,019 Points:3,136,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:09:51 AM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse I now have a bigger sewer to put up with. I was raised on a farm so this should not have been a surprise. The state built a new freeway bypass around our city and it opened last year. Part of the building process is that they levelled the untillable 80 behind my house for sand and gravel for building the road. Last year the 80 had a first year crop of alphalfa. The 80 has been under water for the past few weeks but the farmer is now into field. His main cattle operation is about a mile and a half west-northwest of us and we would sometimes get a whiff of his liquid manure storage but it was not that strong. Today is different. I just watched him spread his fifth 800 gallon tank of liquid on the lot line 50 feet from my house. By the end of the day we may have all 10,000 gallons of his winter storage on the field. Uff-Da can you spell crap? [Edited by: Cliffisher at 5/20/2013 9:12:24 AM EST]
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:26,019 Points:3,136,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:58:05 AM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse I'm shocked. No crap police. KG, you are correct. Those of us that posted our outrage in the Pilgrims sewer should have known better.
KansasGunman Champion Author Kansas City Posts:21,434 Points:2,104,400 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:49:57 AM Ignore KansasGunman Report Abuse Morning Café Lurkers...just dropped in for a quick cuppa joe and caught a glimpse of all the filth strewn about...good grief! Looks like quite the storm blew through the politics Forum and btc1's Café as well over the weekend and the MODS cleanup ahead appears about like the cleanup around Kansas after weathering all the tornadoes and severe hail storms and straight line winds. With just 40 some regulars making up 98% of the forums I wonder how large the debris field around the forum would have been had no one felt compelled to jump into the fray and just let him rant knowing the MODS would take out the trash and clean up the site come Monday morning anyway. Heard from a neighbor a large tree blew down and fell across the road blocking it just a ways past the entrance to our property so I'm meeting him this morning after breakfast with a chain saw and wench and see if we can't get it cleaned up. I'll be several days before the county road maintenance crews make it around to our area and we'd kinda like to be able to get to town, need be. Hope everyone has a great week in spite of the weekend storms here on the GB site...now I'm off to breakfast and then fire up the Gator and take a drive around the property and see how much damage control ahead of me from the straight line winds last night.
Panama19 Champion Author Louisville Posts:25,320 Points:2,544,285 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:08:29 AM Ignore Panama19 Report Abuse reb4, this one fits the situation too... [Edited by: Panama19 at 5/20/2013 8:13:07 AM EST]
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:17,812 Points:792,930 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:08:19 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse fly is the only one I have on ignore. Has he not come after JB yet?!! I am shocked! Yeah, shocked...
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:26,019 Points:3,136,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: May 20, 2013 7:57:16 AM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse No problem. The language cop will soon clean up the crap.