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btc1
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2009 7:19:21 PM

US Politics Cafe? What does that mean? Well, I email the GM Mod and asked if we could continue to have a place where we could discuss, amongst ourselves, the problems that crop up time to time here on the US Politics Forum. The previous post that was locked yesterday had sort of turned into this. And as a place where we could converse with each other without the pretense of hard left or hard right positions interfering with our communication and the good friends we have developed on both sides of the fence.

The GM thought this might be a good idea and approved it today.

So here we go. We have a place to try to work out angst, or just visit amongst ourselves and JOKE around with friends. The Cafe' is now open for us. We just need to keep everything here civil. Can I set your drinks up for you, Buddy? What will you have? Cheers!
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 9:35:04 PM

Well, that was a fun run while it lasted. No way did I think UCLA would've gotten this far.
btc1
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 7:31:15 PM

SE with all the commotion, I forgot to tell you how hurt I was that as you flew by on the interstate, that, I did not even get a wave....
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 6:00:48 PM

"Speaking of hurt, "super kid" went on vacation with his parents, WITHOUT ME. How could that happen?"


LOL, it might be that the parents think you're the one behind superkid using his powers all the time...
SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 5:32:15 PM

"The only thing I hate more than irrational arguments and name calling is smug know-it-alls."

I love it when the "know-it-alls" post some nonsense, and I can just post a statute or court case in response.

[Edited by: SE3.5 at 3/27/2015 5:32:32 PM EST]
SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 5:23:59 PM

"that guy who had almost EVERY conservative around here on his ignore list..."

Someone might have me on ignore? I am so hurt. {;>)

Speaking of hurt, "super kid" went on vacation with his parents, WITHOUT ME. How could that happen?
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 5:08:11 PM

"AND to engage in light hearted banter with folks of the same and/or different political persuasions."


And to hear the latest escapades of "superkid"...

LOL, *wink*
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 5:07:32 PM

"But one should not be surprised to be insulted after continuing to talk to someone who has a habit of insulting."


There is a difference between biting sarcasm and ugly insults. I don't mind someone disagreeing with me and slapping me with sarcasm; but at the same time, I don't have time for people who thin whoever can come up with the biggest insults wins the debate.

You may have not noticed, but I don't join every debate and I don't respond to every post direct to me either. Just because I see someone acting stupid, doesn't mean I have to acknowledge their stupidity by enjoining a pointless, never-ending debate.







"I, with a substantial ignore list..."

Careful bro, you're starting to sound like that guy who had almost EVERY conservative around here on his ignore list...

LOL

[Edited by: RNorm at 3/27/2015 5:09:21 PM EST]
SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 4:47:47 PM

"I thought the whole point of these forums were to discuss various political subjects from differing and contrasting points of view?"

AND to engage in light hearted banter with folks of the same and/or different political persuasions.
SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 4:41:52 PM

Well, of course it is, Normie. But one should not be surprised to be insulted after continuing to talk to someone who has a habit of insulting.

That is like asking for it.

Trash me once shame on you.

Trash me twice, shame on me.

How many times do you need to be bitten by a snake in the hole before you stop reaching into that hole?

I, with a substantial ignore list, enjoy plenty of highly stimulating conversations with conservatives and liberals of widely differing views who are very respectful of proper manner and decorum. One need not give up opposing political views in the desire to converse with ladies and gentlemen.
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 4:31:27 PM

"Simply make yours more clever and enticing than the other and it will dominate. "


Actually, I thought the whole point of these forums were to discuss various political subjects from differing and contrasting points of view?
sgm4law
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 4:27:42 PM

The only thing I hate more than irrational arguments and name calling is smug know-it-alls.
flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 3:32:38 PM

Marty says - "Followed by signs on drinking fountains that read "Conservative Only". Nah.

Fouls of a feather will flock together anyway; leave them to their own devices."

Have a nice day Marty your efforts to insult folks are not very productive.
SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 3:23:20 PM

That is a somewhat unfortunate consequence. But it is as much the loss of the troll as it is yours. Their topic is deprived of your input and thus has fewer responses. And since you are not posting there, then those who would respond to what you say also don't.

All the more reason for posters to see that the best practice is to conduct oneself in a respectful manner.

You are at all times free to begin topics on any subject you wish to discuss anyway. Simply make yours more clever and enticing than the other and it will dominate.
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 2:17:41 PM

"I know what the concern is. You worry about what other people are saying about you."

Not really; there are ways to keep up with what others say behind your back (as it were). My concern is that I cannot see or respond to the posts of everyone else participating in a topic started by a person I'm forced to ignore.

SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 12:28:51 PM

I used to oppose 'forced ignore' but now that I use the ignore feature willingly I support the action.

I KNOW it 'punishes' the victim of abuse. (what did I do except get attacked???)

But really, that is what the victim should have done willingly. If a victim does this it instantly solves the problem.

I know what the concern is. You worry about what other people are saying about you. Well, the fact of the matter is you have no control over that in real life so there is no expectation that you should have it here.

The best thing to do in this place and in real life is to simply conduct yourself in a manner which is above reproach. That way, anything somebody makes up about you is certain to be false and will not stand the test of time. And those who know you and know of your character will not fall for cheap concocted stories about you. So you really have nothing to worry about.

What I have found from using the ignore feature is that once you stop seeing posts from immature petty minds and subsequently stop responding to such drivel they tend to either just forget about you and quit saying things about you, or they just repeat the same old shallow baloney that people of refined character see right through and don't believe. Either way, you remain respected by those who count. I know this because after I began experimenting with the ignore feature I would sometimes unignore all, out of curiosity, for a while. (but still not respond) Then I could see if they were talking about me.

And what a pleasure it is to visit here and never be insulted!

Try it, you'll like it.

But if you do, make sure you give it a good long try. Several weeks at least. It takes a while to realize the beauty of it. I think if you do you will never want to go back.

The Power of Poof.

Wonderful.

Wish it could be had in real life!
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 12:06:40 PM

I love Sam the Sheepdog!
SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:56:17 AM

<<Maybe they're cousins?>>

Clones?
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:48:27 AM

"Ralph looks a lot like Wile E Coyote to me?"


Maybe they're cousins?

LOL!
SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:44:29 AM

"Sam Sheepdog and Ralph Wolf"

Ralph looks a lot like Wile E Coyote to me?
SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:36:59 AM

"Now there is a second cafe to which I do not have access."

Are you blocked from A1?
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:36:11 AM

The mods could have left things as they were, too. The decision is ultimately theirs to make.

RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:35:45 AM

"The original cafe could work if the moderators didn't use forced ignore as their main tool of moderation."


There would be no need for forced ignore if some people grew up and stop stalking others...
sgm4law
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:29:14 AM

The original cafe could work if the moderators didn't use forced ignore as their main tool of moderation.

And the dual cafe system was working fine until one of our number decided it was needlessly duplicative. The mods don't want to get involved until someone asks for something like that.

Now there is a second cafe to which I do not have access. I am not pleased.
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:17:42 AM

You know, the Original Cafe could work if everyone, Conservatives and Liberals alike, treated it like Sam Sheepdog and Ralph Wolf treated their daily grind; i.e., they never made anything personal...
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 11:08:28 AM

If you say so; I don't remember it. Speaking of drama, here's an excellent example:


mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 10:10:30 PM Ignore mexicomaria Report Abuse
I am just going to throw out what I think.....(nothing new there)....I do not think any libs got the Troller cafe closed. I think it is the same person who moved topics from the Christian forum to the Political forum or all over the place. ie no1docs topic, "Is it time for Christians to leave the Democratic Party?"

For the record, I am the person who requested that no1doc's topic be moved to the politics forum... I've never made any secret about that. He has even thanked me for doing so. I resent being falsely accused by a gossiping fellow Christian who wouldn't even bother to contact me via whiteboard to inquire whether I had anything to do with it. Someone should tell maria that the mod imposed block doesn't mean I absolutely cannot see what she posts about me. (I had nothing at all to do with Troller Diesel or his topics or his posts. I've had him on ignore since I last smelled his foul stench.)





[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/27/2015 11:11:28 AM EST]
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 9:55:23 AM

April 6th is the best day of the sporting year, Opening Day!
I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 9:41:04 AM

Marty, there WAS a thread called "Conservative Corner" back in 2012, and it got disappeared. Very strange. I guess it was an Us vs Them thread. Evidence that it existed? It was started by smooth7984 and I posted on his WB on Nov.28 2012 asking him what happened to it.
Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 9:34:44 AM

Well at least there were a couple entertaining basketball games last night.

Now on to the NCAA hockey tourney. Go BULLDOGS!
SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 8:43:25 AM

Yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!

Friiiiiiidayyyy!!!!

Whoopee!

Sorry, retirees. I know this day is meaningless to you. But for those of us who pay your SS checks it is FREEDOM DAY!

Ahhhhh.

Bring on the weekend.
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 8:41:43 AM

"I just hope there is no drama over this."

There are one or two who will vie for Academy Awards with the drama they'll perform. The rest will take comfort in vicarious dramatics.


SE3.5
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 8:41:09 AM

Good morning, and good advice for all from a philosopher of the past. {:>)

"Children behave . . ."

--Tommy James

[Edited by: SE3.5 at 3/27/2015 8:41:28 AM EST]
btc1
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 8:21:40 AM

RNorm, buddy, Kentucky did not start the trash talk. We just put an end to it.

Marty, yeah they do. I just hope there is no drama over this.
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 8:04:06 AM

"That may be best anyway....."

I don't think so.



"You know this problem could be solved if a conservative like say flyboyUT, would create a Conservative Cafe or a Conservative Corner. That would do it."

Followed by signs on drinking fountains that read "Conservative Only". Nah.

Fouls of a feather will flock together anyway; leave them to their own devices.

RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 7:34:03 AM

That was an ugly win by the Wildcats...man, poor Mountaineers...Posterized! LOL!
btc1
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 6:54:46 AM

Well, the Wildcats had a little Mountaineer Mush last night.

You know this problem could be solved if a conservative like say flyboyUT, would create a Conservative Cafe or a Conservative Corner. That would do it.

In the mean time all that can make it here are welcome. Just like a lot of places we accept all as long as they can open the door.

I will have to think on this dilemma a bit more.
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 4:09:27 AM

Good early morning all!
sgm4law
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2015 12:56:20 AM

"those that wish are free to jump on in this topic"

No, we're not.
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 11:31:26 PM

Norm, agreed. If you recall, this place started out as btc1 intended. It was those who couldn't restrain themselves that now and then turned this place into a boxing ring. Those who only want to talk with like minded individuals, let them have their own place.

btc1, please don't ask to shut this one down.
SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 10:59:01 PM

I'm only on forced ignore with one poster; but if it wasn't forced it would certainly be voluntary.
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 8:50:52 PM

I don't think this one should be locked.

This is the original Cafe and should stand. Not to mention many of those who choose not to come here tried in times past to make it a political thread and boxing ring...
btc1
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 7:34:39 PM

sgm, you are right. It is not fair for anyone who is on forced ignore with me not to be able to participate in a Cafe'. If the Mods will not reopen the other, I will ask that this one be locked too, so someone else like you sgm, can start another where everyone can join in.

That may be best anyway.....
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 7:01:02 PM

I can't see that topic. Probably started by a member I have on ignore.

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 3/26/2015 7:02:08 PM EST]
flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 6:51:52 PM

Not to worry - those that wish are free to jump on in this topic - "THE PLACE Where Everybody Knows Your Name - And Where You Are Free To Talk Politics Unhindered "
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 6:12:26 PM

Ugh, summer has arrived once again...
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 5:49:44 PM

"Oh right, allegedly. And the one who started that topic is now gone for the 3rd time."


Um, its more like 5th or 6th time...
Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 5:48:08 PM

"The problem is that some of the people who frequented that cafe are on forced ignore with btc1, so they cannot participate in this one. "

And why were they on forced ignore??? Oh right, allegedly. And the one who started that topic is now gone for the 3rd time.
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 5:37:14 PM

"The problem is that some of the people who frequented that cafe are on forced ignore with btc1, so they cannot participate in this one. They shouldn't have closed it."


Well, maybe it might be time for rethink the forced ignore protocol? I think many of the forced ignore situations are the result of over zealous moderation that just doesn't want to be bothered...
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 5:32:28 PM

Agreed. The other cafe should've stayed open.
sgm4law
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 5:24:26 PM

<<No they didn't need to, but the reason stated was it was a duplicate topic. I fail to see the need to segregate members based on their politics, we are all (allegedly) adults.>>

The problem is that some of the people who frequented that cafe are on forced ignore with btc1, so they cannot participate in this one. They shouldn't have closed it.
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 4:43:11 PM

"I'm sure it was due to a pack hunting cabal of liberals who just can't handle the "truth". </sarc>


Or perhaps Obama had it closed?

*ROTFL*





"I fail to see the need to segregate members based on their politics, we are all (allegedly) adults."

I'm going to need some proof for that allegation...

*ROTFL*
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2015 4:40:25 PM

"we are all (allegedly) adults."

Allegedly. {:>)
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