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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2008 12:12:22 PM

Got solar? Got wind?

Do you think that the government should be subsidizing the cost of solar panels for homeowners that want them on their houses? How about windmills?

If you have them, how many do you have? Do they cover all of your electricity usage?
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 5:17:23 PM

Solar Power Material Converts 90% of Captured Light into Heat
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 4:02:39 PM

Chief, apparently it isn't illegal in Idaho. Pay attention.
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:27:21 PM

SAVMOR
They can't stop them. They try by making you paint them the color of the house. That was thrown out. Call your power company or state commission and they will notify your association that they are breaking the law.
Good luck.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 8:46:07 PM

"Made it much better. "

Not for the neighbors.
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SAVMOR
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 8:31:54 PM

Unfortunately our HOA here in Idaho will not allow them.
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 7:14:31 PM

borsht
Arizona had some neighborhoods that the homeowners association would not allow anything on roofs. Solar could not be outlawed, neither could satellite antennae. Made it much better.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 12:54:12 PM

The topic is supposedly:” Do you think that the government should be subsidizing the cost of solar panels for homeowners that want them on their houses? How about windmills?”

Unfortunately the government makes decisions based on lobbying companies. Government politics gets funded by these companies therefore they return the favors by financing their projects.

oSoylanda is a classic example of politics vs. good science. Politics wins.
The science behind soylandra was bogus. But it got a guaranteed half billion dollar loan, that lined the pockets of the politicians and the tax payers lost big.

oNo subsidies, because it is run by corrupt, inefficient politics.

oWind mills for the homeowner? Now that is a great idea, How much should the government subsidize this?
Many places won’t even allow a TV antenna on a roof top.



[Edited by: borsht at 10/28/2014 12:55:33 PM EST]
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 9:11:35 AM

Anything to direct attention away from the fact that you made a statement that you can't back up yet again, eh, chieffy?

Maybe you should stick to something that you're good at, like pretending to have solar panels.

[Edited by: ldheinz at 10/28/2014 9:12:13 AM EST]
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 11:27:13 PM

flyboy
My meds are fine but yours sure need a tune up!
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 1:05:43 PM

BTW, chief, we are still waiting for your "figures"...
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 1:05:14 PM

"Only the Liberal Democrats are calling names"

Once again Chief, all you are doing is proving your extreme left leanings...
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 1:00:29 PM

Chiffey chile it is sounding more and more like you need to see the doc and have your meds adjusted. Either that or that nasty ol Alzheimer's is really getting aholt of you.

Either way the babbles are getting less and less coherent and devoid of reason or meaning
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 12:46:55 PM

IDHeinz
At least you believe something? Did not know you had it in you. OH, wait you don't, just another liberal lie.

[Edited by: Chiefaz at 10/27/2014 12:47:17 PM EST]
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 12:43:50 PM

Shock
Got news for you. Us conservatives call liberals like you every name in the book! Why? Because you do the same to us. Don't believe it. Watch TV.
Only the Liberal Democrats are calling names the conservatives talk policy.
So Mr Liberal suck it up!
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 8:09:11 PM

"To all you A-Holes!"
"Only liberals call people names"

Once again, by Chiefs own definition, he's identified himself as a raging liberal...
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 6:51:32 PM

Solar Energy Prices See Double-Digit Declines in 2013

At least we'd know that you didn't just make them up, chieffy.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 3:09:03 PM

Shock - why does the lack of a coherent logical intelligent response from chieffy not surprise me?

Maybe because he really dose not have any logical answer to a pertinent question about his assertions.

Maybe because he still believes that he is right and the rest of the world is wrong but he wants us to keep on subsidizing his hobby.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 3:02:13 PM

"Shock and the other genius'
Nope no figures"

Of course, because they are made up, just like your other figures...
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 1:45:37 PM

You mean no figures because you made them up, right? We don't deny links.
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 12:27:04 PM

Shock and the other genius'
Nope no figures, you would not believe them anyway so why waste my time. You can read and look for yourselves.

[Edited by: Chiefaz at 10/26/2014 12:27:33 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:01:36 AM

"Solar power may indeed be an answer to our energy needs, but it won't happen overnight..."

50+ years and counting and it's STILL not economical... Yeah, it's not going to happen overnight.
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 2:35:15 PM

We're still waiting for those "figures", chief.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 1:03:20 PM

So in other words Chief, your unable to provide proof because, once again, you have made something up...
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 12:47:06 PM

Shock
There you go, acting dumb again!
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 12:45:51 PM

Flyboy
The genius to talking again. Everyone stop and listen !
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:36:58 PM

TD if we had an efficient and cost effective and WORKABLE way to store solar and wind power they might be much more practicable but not until then. Those who think otherwise just do not understand the problem. Best way for them to get a feel for it is to go off grid and see exactly what I mean.

Then we have to deal with the question of base load and peaking load and the balancing of the grid. Things most solar fans dont wish to think about.
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 9:20:47 PM

Solar power may indeed be an answer to our energy needs, but it won't happen overnight...

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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 6:29:49 PM

"The figures show that in Arizona both company and consumers benefit from solar energy"

What figures? If you have figures, please show a link to them...
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:12:22 PM

Shock
Where do you get your figures. The figures show that in Arizona both company and consumers benefit from solar energy.
Come on, are you doing that Chicago shuffle again. Nice try. it won't work.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 1:14:06 PM

"Shock, this Concrete Liberal contributes to the people of Arizona a
savings on their power bills by lessening their power bills during high usage times"

As I and several others have shown, placing Solar panels increase your fellow power users bills, not lessen it....

"I did this by accepting a rebate from uncle Sam"

Accepting and advocating handouts from uncle sam. Isn't that one of the primary definitions of a liberal?

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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 1:11:51 PM

"Shock
Ever the jester!"
"Only liberals call people names"

Thankks again Chief for proving, yet again your liberal leanings...
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 1:09:45 PM

Flyboy
Another Bleeding Liberal heard from. Do you guys hold meetings to hold hands and come up with witty saying. Must play hell with your budget.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 1:01:55 PM

Chief you seem to have a different view of reality than others. You also seem to have a different view of the idea behind conservative and liberal.

Enjoy your delusional day now ya hear.
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:26:55 PM

Shock, this Concrete Conservative contributes to the people of Arizona a
savings on their power bills by lessening their power bills during high usage times. I did this by accepting a rebate from uncle Sam and spending my own money, far more than uncle Sam gave me. My actions and the actions of like minded citizens save the people of Arizona millions of dollars during high usage times.
What have you contributed to your fellows citizens, Jokes?
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:21:42 PM

Shock
Ever the jester! Only your jokes are getting old.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:31:56 PM

"Only liberals call people names"

Well Chief, if what you say is true, then since you, by far, use name calling as a tactic, that speaks volumes about your political leanings...
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:29:10 PM

"A taxpayer from Illinois?????"

What an ignorant statement. How does being a resident of Illinois preclude one from paying Federal income taxes?

"And as I have stated before I am a concrete conservative"

Not so concrete since you accept and advocate liberal handouts such as the one's you received for your supposed solar panels....

A more accurate description for you may be a "concrete liberal"...
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:16:45 PM

When was the last time you posted anything about solar panels, chief?
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:14:41 PM

IDHeinz
It looks like you don't want to talk solar either. You are too caught up
making accusations you forgot the topic.
Nothing I have said was wrong and I am a conservative. Only liberals call
people names like you. Trying to hide something?
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 10:45:36 AM

Chiefaz, you say the opposite of the truth so much, I don't think that you even have any solar panels. You claim to be old, so you're probably young, you accuse others of lying, as that's what you have been caught doing so many times, you accuse others of being liberal, so that's what you are sure to be (you support liberal policies, after all).

Now, can we talk about solar panels?
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 11:07:02 PM

YOu know chiffffey it sure would be nice if yo would stop trying to pla silly games here and get back on topic. I really dont care what your opinion is of other posters or anything else except the subject here - solar energy.
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 10:28:07 PM

Shock
A taxpayer from Illinois????? I don't believe it. With your" president" and your democratic governors "mostly still in prison" bleeding your state dry.
I have to prop you up with my taxes.
And as I have stated before I am a concrete conservative. Unlike your kind that blow in the wind?
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 10:21:10 PM

IDHienz
It appears that as a liberal you refuse to take responsibility for your statements.
I'll talk about solar as soon as you stop your child like behavior?

[Edited by: Chiefaz at 10/20/2014 10:22:25 PM EST]
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:49:06 PM

Chiefaz, I take it back. The way you make up clearly false nonsense and then accuse others of what you're doing, you seem more like an 8-year-old pretending to be somebody else. After all, you keep getting the details wrong.

Now can we talk about solar panels?

[Edited by: ldheinz at 10/20/2014 4:50:45 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:07:37 PM

Oh I'm positive I'm not chief. But liberals like yourself, want to rob taxpayers, like myself, to pay for their foolish endeavors...

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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:06:13 PM

IDHeinz
I have told the truth and apologized for any incorrect data I have put on the topics.
You however, as a dyed in the wool Liberal , have spun tales and lies continuously.
We try to discuss the merits of solar power while you try to tear it down. As all Liberals, when you are against something, you do not want any one to have it.
Shame that people like you voted for O-Vomit.

[Edited by: Chiefaz at 10/20/2014 4:07:15 PM EST]
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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:00:56 PM

Shock
Are you sure that you are not on welfare and using my money to pay for everything?
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:49:21 PM

Chiefaz, your temper tantrums are getting tiresome. Remember, YOU are the one that keeps getting caught in lie after lie. Nobody else here has.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:44:53 PM

"Chicago is not the world"

Who said it was?

"You and Shock seems to be a few from Illinois"

Illinois is a BIG state Chief. Living in Illinois doesn't mean you live anywhere near or are in any way associated with Chicago.

"So if you and shock don't like solar, fine. But don't put it down for the other states!"

The only reason I dislike Solar is because I'm forced to help pay for your uneconomical power system. If you want to waste your money on it Chief, be my guest. I just take umbrage to being forced to pay for a portion of it...

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Chiefaz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 11:36:42 AM

IDHeonz
Pay Attention!
Number 1 liar
Number 2 liar
number 3 liar.
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