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runningmp

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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2007 10:04:13 PM

On January 9, 2007 the State of Oklahoma executed Corey Hamilton for the 1992 execution-style slaying of four employees at Lee's Famous Recipe Chicken Restaurant in Tulsa 14 years ago. The four robbers took $2,200 and then forced the victims into the restaurant's walk-in refrigerator on August 17, 1992. They were each shot once in the back of the head.

Justice has been served.

Tulsa Killer Executed For Quadruple Slaying

[Edited by: runningmp at 1/9/2007 10:04:19 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 5:19:58 PM

Of course it works, they are dead. D'oh
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 12:54:45 AM

On May 7th, 2013, the State of Texas executed Carroll Joe Parr for the Jan. 11, 2003 murder of 18-year-old Joel Dominguez. Parr had bought marijuana from Dominguez and came back to rob him and an associate.

Justice has been served.

Texas Inmate Executed
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 12:29:25 AM

On May 1, 2013, the State of Ohio executed Steven Smith for the September 29, 1998 killing of his live-in girlfriend's daughter, 6 month old Autumn Carter. Smith had recently tried to get his sentence reduced to life in prison, arguing that he was too drunk to realize that his assault was killing Autumn and didn't mean to hurt the baby.

Justice has been served.

Steven Smith Executed by Lethal Injection
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 9:55:23 AM

"Convicted killer suing murdered victim's family"

After the judge tosses out this frivolous lawsuit, which hopefully will happen forthwith, he should discipline the attorney involved in filing this lawsuit. If that doesn't happen, the victim should sue the attorney.

Any lawsuit where the criminal sues the victim, for anything even remotely arising from the crime committed against the victim, is reprehensible.

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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 11:13:42 PM

On April 16, 2013, the State of Texas executed Ronnie Threadgill for the April 15, 2001 murder of 17-year-old Dexter McDonald. McDonald was sitting in the back seat of a friend's idling car near Corsicana, about 60 miles south of Dallas, when Threadgill started shooting then jumped inside the vehicle and drove off. He threw McDonald from the car; the teenager died of a gunshot wound to the chest.

Texas Executes Convicted Killer for 2001 Slaying
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:44:24 PM

>>They should have executed this SOB...<<

This convict Larry Shandola is probably pretty pleased with himself right now. What a piece of trash!
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 10:30:39 AM

They should have executed this SOB...

Convicted killer suing murdered victim's family

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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 11:51:35 PM

On April 10, 2013, the State of Florida executed Larry Mann for the Nov. 4, 1980 murder of 10-year-old Elisa Vera Nelson, whom he abducted one morning in 1980 as she rode her bicycle to school in Palm Harbor.

The next day, two men searching an isolated, weed-choked orange grove west of County Road 39 found her body beneath an avocado tree.

Her throat had been cut, an autopsy showed, but she died from a single blow to the head from a concrete block.

Justice has been served.

Larry Mann Executed
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 12:34:42 AM

On April 9, 2013, the State of Texas executed Ricky Lewis for the September 17, 1990 murder of 45-year-old George Newman, raping Newman’s fiancée and stealing her truck after breaking into the couple’s home.

Justice has been served.

Punishable by Death
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2013 3:06:38 PM

Two Kentucky hospitals have rejected requests to perform a $56,000 hip replacement surgery on a Death Row inmate whose execution date could come this year.After more than a year of efforts to find a hospital to perform the surgery on Robert Foley, 56, the University of Louisville Hospital and the University of Kentucky Medical Center turned down the state's entreaty.The decisions are noted in a court filing Tuesday. They leave Foley's immediate future in limbo, but he is one of two Kentucky death row inmates whose executions are waiting to be scheduled.Foley was convicted of killing six people in Eastern Kentucky in 1989 and 1991, making him the most prolific killer on the state's Death Row.

Kentucky is trying to restart executions after a nearly four-year delay and it can't come soon enough.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 1:28:00 AM


runningmp, that sure cuts down on recidivism.

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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 1:07:13 AM

On March 12, 2013, the State of Oklahoma executed Steven Thacker for the 1999 murder of Laci Hill. Laci Hill was newly married and wanted to start a family. She was kidnapped, raped and murdered. Her body was found a few days after Christmas in 1999 in Mayes County.

In the ten days following her murder, Thacker stabbed a man to death in Missouri and killed a service station worker in Tennessee.

Justice has been served.

Steven Thacker Executed
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 10:53:15 PM

Amen there Greentre - solve the problem for once and for all.
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 10:01:25 PM

When I worked as a Corrections Officer at the state prison, we (officers) hated dealing with the 'lifers'. Ones who were life without the possibility of parole. They didn't care what they did before or while they were our 'guests'. They weren't going anywhere and whatever you did for additional punishment was just a change of pace or location.

My opinion, if they are convicted of a capitol offense they get three years to provide new evidence or bye-bye. The cost for food, medical, housing, corrections staff is staggering. The United States has the highest
per capita incarceration of any nation. Privatized prisons are BIG business.
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 9:30:16 PM

“The main argument against the "DP" seems to be the possibility of error in the conviction.”

I don’t think there is much room for error in this one.
He should be put down the day after his conviction.
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New York man charged with having child pornography cut monitoring device off his ankle before, fatally stabbing a woman and raping her 10-year-old daughter.
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 7:16:41 PM

The main argument against the "DP" seems to be the possibility of error in the conviction. Around the globe, however, errors in our military actions produce death - and we continue, trying all the while, of course, to avoid errors. Why should it be different here at home?
As for the truly guilty, what are we denying them by the application of the DP? A happy family life in cheerful surroundings? No - and death itself is, of course, inevitable. We will spend many dollars worth of medical treatment to postpone that, but it's there.
In the meantime, it is claimed that we will save money by denying further appeals and trials. Perhaps some of that can be used to console families of future victims, both in and out of prison. As for those to be denied the extra legal appeals, some of the saved funds can be used for flowers for their cells.
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 3:21:53 PM

runningmp - "Not too sure why....it would make sense, but the victim probably isn't using critical thinking. They are probably dealing with the shock of being set on fire."

True. I doubt too many people have thought about it ahead of time, unless they see it happen to someone else.

Even then, most people will try to avoid thinking about it.
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 12:31:28 PM

>>rjhenn, A bit off-topic, but I've always wondered why those are attacked by being set on fire don't immediately try to hug their attacker...<<

Not too sure why....it would make sense, but the victim probably isn't using critical thinking. They are probably dealing with the shock of being set on fire.
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 12:28:20 PM

On March 6, 2013, the State of Ohio executed Frederick Treesh for the 1994 murder of Henry Dupree in Eastlake east of Cleveland on Aug. 27, 1994. He and a co-defendant were suspects in the shooting death three days earlier of Ghassan Danno, a Livonia, Mich., video store co-owner.

He also apologized for the death of Dupree, but said he wouldn't say he was sorry to family members of Danno, who sat a few feet away watching through a window. Treesh said he'd never been charged or tried in that slaying.

Justice has been served.

Frederick Treesh Executed
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 12:09:05 AM

mnrick041, when was the last time that Minnesota executed someone? It was 1905. The person who was executed was William Williams in 1906. The botched execution which took over 14 minutes for him to die was the catalyst for it's repeal. Since I lived in MN for 18 years some further history is that it also holds the record in the U.S. for the largest mass execution of 38 Dakota Indians in 1862. Some of those trials lasted less than 5 minutes.

[Edited by: runningmp at 3/2/2013 12:10:39 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 8:12:57 PM

MNRick, I don’t see the death penalty as a deterrent or a form of punishment. I see it as the only we to insure that the animals that commit the most heinous of crime never get the opportunity to kill again.

How many people have been killed by murders that have either been released on parole or escaped?
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A SHORT LIST OF MURDERERS RELEASED TO MURDER AGAIN
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At the link says this is just the short list.
As you can see if a murder is released everyone in the general public is at risk.

Even if the killer gets a life sentence every other prisoenrWhen lifers kill in prison, is it a waste to prosecute them? is at risk.
Every guard Inmate beats female prison guard to death
Even the medical staff that the system gives them to extend their miserable lives are at risk.Vigil to honor nurse killed by jail inmate
Now if you still have a problem with the death penalty read this one.Some of the details of this crime are so gruesome that they were not publicized.

If these men are allowed to live and kill again who is to blaim?

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 2/28/2013 8:14:39 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 8:39:53 PM

mnrick041 - Minnesota also has a culture that is quite a bit different from Southern or Western states. Or most parts of the country.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 6:05:46 AM

It works on that one particular individual, insures that he will never get paroled from prison and commit another crime but it is questionable as to whether or not it is a deterrent, if it is worth the cost and if it is worth the damage it does to our standing in the international community.

About 15 years ago I did a paper in school where I did a lot of research, it was relevant to the crime stats at that time (so don't compare this to 2012 crime reports). I Think I used Louisiana, Missouri, Arizona and Minnesota as examples which at the time were close to each other in the population rankings of the states.

Of those 4 Minnesota is the only one without a death penalty and Minnesota also had (at the time) the lowest per capita incarceration rate of any state while Louisiana and Arizona had two of the highest incarceration rates. Minnesota largely relies on community corrections, meaning they usually put the offenders back out on the streets, into programs rather than send them to prison.

In the report I used BJS crime stats from the 4 States and Minnesota had the lowest crime rates of any of those 4 similar sized death penalty states.

I realize MN has a advantage because we have a low minority population, less poverty and other positive factors but it is hard to say that the death penalty really "works" when you look at a example like that. It was like Minnesota is the softest on crime State out there and Louisiana (at the time) had a off the chart incarceration rate but yet MN was far safer as far as there being less crime.

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:25:22 AM

runningmp - "He then doused Richards-Sanders and set her ablaze."

A bit off-topic, but I've always wondered why those are attacked by being set on fire don't immediately try to hug their attacker.

And, preferably, knock them down, jump on them and roll over so the attacker is on top.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:31:25 PM

"Topic: The Death Penalty Does Work"

Yes, it does, but it works on both the guilty and the innocent.


When it works as it should it is very, very, good.

When it doesn't it is no less than State sanctioned murder.


The question that remains (and I have no answer as I am not against Capital Punishment) are the trade-offs worth it? Many here (and in the World of Sharia Law) say, "Yes"; and many here say, "No" (as well as most the the Western "civilized" countries).







[Edited by: Passer at 2/23/2013 10:32:44 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 2:39:48 AM

On February 21, 2013, the State of Texas executed Carl Blue for the September 1994 murder of his ex-girlfriend, Carmen Richards-Sanders. Court records said he waited outside Richards-Sanders' apartment, then when she opened the door, rushed in and told her: "I told you I was going to get you." He then doused Richards-Sanders and set her ablaze.

When Blue discovered Larence Williams at the apartment, he threw what was left of the gasoline on Williams, setting him on fire. Williams survived and testified against Blue.

Justice has been served.

Carl Blue Executed
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 2:37:17 AM

The date for Andrew Cook execution should have read February 21, 2013.
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:27:08 AM

On February 21, 2014, the State of Georgia executed Andrew Cook for the murders of two Mercer University students in 1995.

Justice has been served.

Andrew Cook Executed

[Edited by: runningmp at 2/22/2013 12:29:19 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:57:30 PM

On January 17, 2013, the State of Virginia executed Robert Gleason murder of his cellmate. He hogtied, beat and strangled 63-year-old Harvey Watson Jr. in May 2009 and remained with the inmate's body for more than 15 hours before the crime was discovered.

While awaiting sentencing at a highly secure prison for the state's most dangerous inmates, Gleason strangled 26-year-old Aaron Cooper through wire fencing that separated their individual cages in a recreation yard in July 2010. As officers tried to resuscitate Cooper — video surveillance shows had been choked on and off for nearly an hour — Gleason told them "you're going to have to pump a lot harder than that."

Prior to those two murders he was serving life in prison for the 2007 fatal shooting of a man

Justice has been served.

Man Who Killed Fellow Inmates Executed

[Edited by: runningmp at 1/17/2013 11:57:53 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 9:37:05 AM

runningmp, clearly the prosecutor made the call. But given the heinous and obvious capital nature of the crime, and the fact that Breazel's accomplice did in fact receive the death penalty, the call should have been made by a jury.

At the very least, if the prosecutor felt a plea deal was absolutely necessary, the deal should have been for no less than life without parole, not a 20 year second degree murder sentence that let Breazel back on the streets where he is today. But better that there should be no plea deals in capital cases. That allows some murderers arbitrarily to escape a just punishment, and the public to be endangered by their presence outside of prison.

Plea deals while widely viewed as necessary are in fact one of the biggest defects of our criminal justice system, for this and other reasons.

GTH
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:52:53 PM

On December 11, 2012, the State of Florida executed Manuel Pardo for the 1986 murders of six men and three women. Manuel Pardo was a decorated Florida police officer before he was fired for lying and turned to life as a vigilante, slaying nine people during a three-month crime spree.

"They're parasites and they're leeches, and they have no right to be alive," he said in court. "Somebody had to kill these people."

Justice has been served.

[L=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/text deleted Executed for Murders[/L]
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:50:16 PM

GTH, that call as made by the Prosecutor.
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 11:48:46 PM

runningimp, with respect to Richard Stokley, justice has been served.

But with respect to Randy Brazeal, who is alive, out of prison and free to kill again, justice has not been served.

GTH
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 11:30:46 PM

GTH, was Richard Stokley executed? He will never commit another crime again so justice has been served.
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 11:12:40 PM

Richard Stokley was executed, but what happened to his accomplice, Randy Brazeal?

According to the article:

"Brazeal, who was 19 when the girls were killed, was released from prison July 2, 2011, after serving his full 20-year sentence.

"While Stokley said both men participated in the slayings, Brazeal denied involvement in the killings. However, he pleaded guilty to second-degree murder, avoiding a trial that the then-county attorney feared could result in an acquittal because DNA evidence was not yet ready."

Both men were guilty of a heinous and capital crime. But while one man received the death penalty as the verdict of a jury of his peers, the other got off due to a plea bargain, and is alive and at large today.

It would have been different had Breazel been exonerated or given a lesser sentence by a jury. But instead, a prosecutor lacking in courage, took a jury trial, and therefore the death penalty, off the table.

Justice has not been served.

GTH
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:35:25 AM

On December 5, 2012, the State of Arizona executed Richard Stokley for the July 8, 1991 murders of Mandy Meyers and Mary Snyder. Richard Stokley and Randy Brazeal kidnapped the 13-year-old girls near Elfrida in Cochise County and took them to a remote area, where they raped them. Fearing the consequences, they agreed to kill the girls, and each man strangled one of the girls. To ensure that the victims were dead, Stokley repeatedly stomped on them, and stabbed each of them in the right eye. Stokley and Brazeal then threw the bodies down a water-filled mine shaft.

Justice has been served.

Richard Stokley Executed
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:27:20 PM

Death penalty might work but you are cutting lawyers out of repeat business.

Soon there will be prison personell laid off.

Anything to create more unemployment.
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 8:56:29 PM

On December 4, 2012, the State of Oklahoma executed George Ochoa for the July 12, 1993 murder of Francisco Morales, 38, and Maria Yanez, 35, on Oklahoma City’s south side. Investigators say Morales was shot 12 times and Yanez 11 times in their bedroom on July 12, 1993. Three of the couple’s children were inside the house at the time of the shootings and later testified at trial.

Justice has been served.

George Ochoa Executed
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:50:29 AM

YDraigGoch - "Because of that, hundreds of people who were sentenced to die have been shown to be not guilty after all."

According to the Death Penalty Information Center, "As of October 1, 2012 there have been 141 exonerations in 26 different States."
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 2:38:38 PM

Kentucky has finally moved one step closer to resuming executions by sending new rules for lethal injections to lawmakers. Once approved, the state will ask the judge who halted executions more than a year ago to lift his order. It has taken too long to get to this point.
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 1:47:12 PM

The Death Penalty Does Work

For guilty and innocent alike. It truly is a non disciminating punishment.

Fortunately, most states did not meekly submit to the radical right's call to execute them quickly. Because of that, hundreds of people who were sentenced to die have been shown to be not guilty after all.

Killing innocent people just so you can sleep a little better at night is pretty disgusting.

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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:56:38 PM

On November 15, 2012, the State of Texas executed Preston Hughes for the September 1988 murder of Shandra Charles, 15, and her cousin Marcell Taylor. The September 1988 attack on the young cousins Hughes was convicted of killing happened in a field behind a Houston apartment complex where Hughes lived. A man walking along a trail found Charles and called police. Officers found her 3-year-old cousin already dead from a stab wound that passed completely through his neck.

Charles was still alive but severely injured with knife wounds to her neck and chest, police said. When an officer asked who was responsible for the attack, she gave a name, "Preston," and said he tried to rape her. She died moments later.

Justice has been served.

Texas Executes Preston Hughes
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:59:53 PM

On November 14, 2012, the State of Texas executed Ramon Hernandez for the kidnapping, rape and strangulation death of Rosa Maria Rosado, 37, a single mom who was snatched from a Southwest Side bus stop on March 31, 2001.

During the investigation into Rosado's homicide, authorities linked Hernandez through DNA to another high profile case from the mid-1990s.

In that case, Sarah Gonzales, 13, and her cousin Priscilla Almares, 12, were reported missing on Dec. 16, 1994, then found the next day in Rodriguez Park. They had been raped, beaten and strangled.

Justice has been served.

Ramon Hernandez Executed
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:56:37 PM

On November 13, 2012, the State of Ohio executed Brett Hartman for the 1997 murder of Winda Snipes, 46, who was stabbed more than 100 times in her Akron apartment, her throat slit and her hands cut off, the television station reported.

Justice has been served.

Ohio Executes Brett Hartman
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:25:23 PM

On November 8, 2012, the State of Texas executed Mario Swain for the murder of Lola Nixon at her home in East Texas' Longview two days after Christmas in 2002. Evidence showed Swain threw the 46-year-old Nixon's body into the trunk of her BMW after killing her, drove to a remote area outside of the city about 120 miles east of Dallas and dumped it in the back seat of an abandoned car.

Justice has been served.

Mario Swain Executed
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:21:44 PM

On November 6, 2012, the State of Oklahoma executed Gary Allen for murder of his fiancée, Lawanna Gail Titsworth, 24, on Nov. 21, 1986. Three days after Titsworth left Allen with their two sons, Allen confronted the victim outside of the children’s day care and shot her in the chest. He left, and then returned, shooting Titsworth three times in the back. When police found Allen in an alley, Allen fought with an officer, attempting to force the officer to shoot himself with his service weapon. The officer moved the weapon, causing the bullet to strike Allen in the left eye.

Justice has been served.

Gary Allen
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 10:14:56 PM

rjhenn, thanks for pointing that out. Didn't scroll down far enough. There was an execution that day...just not Donnie Roberts. He was already dead and buried.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 3:26:25 PM

At about 10:30am Ohio put to death Brett Hartman 38. He was convicted of the 1997 murder of Winda Snipes who he stabbed 138 times.
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Ohio executes man who stabbed woman 138 times
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 1:27:02 AM

runningmp - "On November 8, 2012, the State of Texas executed Donnie Roberts for the 2003 murder of his girlfriend, Vicki Bowen."

You posted that one over a week ago. The execution date was October 31.
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 12:20:41 AM

On November 8, 2012, the State of Texas executed Donnie Roberts for the 2003 murder of his girlfriend, Vicki Bowen. Authorities said he apparently met Bowen, a dental assistant, at a bar and moved in with her at her Lake Livingston home, about 75 miles northeast of Houston. Their relationship soured because Roberts wasn't working and was abusing drugs and alcohol, investigators said, and he shot Bowen after she refused his demand for money.

Justice has been served.

Louisiana Ex-Con Executed
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