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PegasusAT
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2007 10:04:13 PM

On January 9, 2007 the State of Oklahoma executed Corey Hamilton for the 1992 execution-style slaying of four employees at Lee's Famous Recipe Chicken Restaurant in Tulsa 14 years ago. The four robbers took $2,200 and then forced the victims into the restaurant's walk-in refrigerator on August 17, 1992. They were each shot once in the back of the head.

Justice has been served.

Tulsa Killer Executed For Quadruple Slaying

[Edited by: runningmp at 1/9/2007 10:04:19 PM EST]
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malcm
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2015 5:59:58 PM

Doesn't it seem ridiculous to agonize over how to carry out the death sentence when, daily, our air force is applying it overseas with missiles and bombs? Painful? Arbitrary? Certainly. Deserved? Of course - if it is strictly limited to the scum with their beheading knives in their belts. But was there a trial jury? A governor with second thoughts and his hand near the phone? Domestically, we can make the killing physically immediate and painless with the simple application of a bullet to the back of the head. Obviously, this cannot be done with an arbitrary blanket of explosives from the sky. But the killing will, of course, continue - we're only human.
flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 11:14:21 AM

Well its quick and no one has complained about it not working. Sure beats the heck out of a botched drug one.
randog
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 10:56:01 AM

Nice to see that Utah reinstituted the firing squad in response to the shortage of lethal injection drugs - used mostly by Texas
ShanC
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2015 3:01:00 PM

The Debra Mike case: "Her conviction was based entirely on a confession Milke gave to the now-discredited detective, Armando Saldate"

Was her confession videotaped or at least audio-recorded?
If not - there *was no* confession.
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2015 1:54:30 PM

Another case in which the death penalty does not work.
ShanC
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2015 1:18:30 PM

That is why I only support the death penalty for "smoking gun" cases. The Willingham case in Texas was not one. Instead, conviction was based largely upon one of the worst possible points of evidence one can have - witness testimony.
lawnmower357
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2015 12:24:05 AM

Hell yeah it works! If you kill a murderer than he can't kill any more people!
flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 10:40:39 PM

I agree johnny - if that lawyer purposely withheld evidence that resulted in an innocent man being executed he is guilty of premeditated murder and needs to pay the penalty. No ifs ands or buts.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 9:42:50 PM

By the way Missouri put another murder down this week. I havent gotten around to posting it.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 9:41:07 PM

Based on this story and providing that it is correct I will stand behind what I have said before. This prosecutor needs to charged with premeditated murder. I have also said that any law enforcement official who withholds evidence or creates evidence to get a conviction should be sentenced to the same sentence the innocent person was sentenced to. In this case the prosecutor should receive the death sentence.

One or two prosecutors sentenced to death for this type of crime and I think the urge to do it will go away.
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 9:26:53 PM

Baloney if the death penalty works!
gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2015 8:48:42 PM

If ever there was a poster child for the death penalty, it was Charles Manson, sentenced to death for the horrific Tate-LaBianca murders but spared by a Supreme Court 1972 decision that commuted the sentence of every US prisoner then on death row.

GTH

[Edited by: gas_too_high at 2/17/2015 8:49:11 PM EST]
rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2015 12:45:31 AM

Rough figures I find in a search, a person serving a life sentence for 60 years would cost taxpayers four million five hundred and sixty thousand to keep them in jail. Manson is a special case, I believe it is close to $250,000 per year. Pretty crazy, he should have been executed, in my opinion. By the way, he isn't getting married after all.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 2/17/2015 12:47:09 AM EST]
BigJake
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:20:06 PM

I am curious, does anyone know the cost of keeping Charles Manson alive in prison? Imprisoned since 1971 and next parole hearing will be in 2027.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:01:46 PM

>>Death needs to come 6 months after a guilty verdict when there is a slam dunk amount of evidence.<<

In cases like the Ft. Hood Shooter they should be taken out back and shot before the sun goes down.
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2015 6:17:30 AM

Death needs to come 6 months after a guilty verdict when there is a slam dunk amount of evidence.
wbacon
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2015 6:01:51 AM

I agree
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2015 2:29:01 AM

malcm - "So, what's the problema"

Indeed.
malcm
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2015 8:00:16 PM

A prolonged existence in one of our overcrowded prisons is, basically, torture. It often includes a certain amount of "solitary" as well - more torture. The death penalty, on the other hand, can be carried out quickly and painlessly, by a bullet to the back of the skull. So, what's the problema/
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2015 12:45:12 PM

In 1990 Walter Storey received a divorce petition from his wife. At the time he was living with his mother. That night Walter proceeded to get drunk. When he ran out of booze and money he took a knife from his mother's kitchen and climbed into the second floor balcony of his neighbor's apartment. The resident was a 36 year old special needs school teacher. Once inside Walter beat the teacher breaking six of her ribs also inflicting several face and head wounds. She was also stabbed in the side. Walter then raped the woman and slit her throat twice. One of the cuts was so deep it hit her spine.

Walter then stole money and the victim's car and money. The next day using her key Walter let himself back into the apartment and tried to clean up any evidence. Walter missed one palm print and was caught.

Walter was tried and convicted three times and sentenced to death three times.

After a quarter century of legal games and attempts to avoid his well deserved punishment this inhuman vermin has now been taken out of the population permanently and will never harm another human being again.


Missouri executes Walter Storey for 1990 St. Charles murder
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2015 9:55:51 AM

A robber who helped in Texas’ biggest prison break was executed Wednesday for killing an Irving police officer while on the run. The man, Donald Newbury, 52, was the third of the so-called Texas 7 executed for the shooting of Aubrey Hawkins, 29, who interrupted their robbery of a sporting goods store on Dec. 24, 2000, seven days after the convicts escaped from the prison system’s Connally Unit. They broke into a prison armory and stole weapons and a truck, and were captured in Colorado. Mr. Newbury lost a last-day appeal to the United States Supreme Court; his lawyers had argued that previous lawyers were deficient and that the courts had not provided enough money for a defense expert to show how Mr. Newbury’s abusive childhood had influenced his violent behavior.

Well done!!
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 6:05:21 AM

Hopefully Texas can get on a roll.
PegasusAT
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 12:24:35 AM

On January 21, 2015, the State of Texas executed Arnold Prieto for the September 1993 murders of Rodolfo Rodriguez, 72, his wife, Virginia, 62, and Paula Moran, their 90-year-old former nanny who lived with them. Each victim was stabbed or cut multiple times with an icepick, screwdriver or knife.

The attackers took jewelry and about $300. Prieto turned down a plea deal of less than life if he would testify against one of his companions.

Justice has been served.

Arnold Prieto Executed In Texas For Screwdriver Slayings
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2015 10:44:47 AM

The Peach State starts off the new year with a bang!
PegasusAT
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2015 12:12:01 AM

On January 13, 2015, the State of Georgia executed Andrew Brannan, a decorated Vietnam War veteran for the murder of Laurens County Deputy Kyle Dinkheller in 1998. In the video of the gun battle. Dinkheller and Brannan are shot and wounded in the battle. Brannan advances on the deputy, and off camera, you hear the deputy scream before Brannan repeatedly shoots him and then flees the scene. Dinkheller died, leaving behind a wife and child.

Justice has been served.

Georgia Executes Vietnam Veteran for Murder of Deputy
malcm
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2014 4:56:46 PM

A "lifer" was quoted as saying, "My worst day outside was better than my best day in here." So life in an overcrowded prison is actually a form of TORTURE! Well deserved, but expensive. Modern technology enables us to correct mistakes many years later - a point in favor of the life sentence "torture". Not an easy choice sometimes. As for the pain in connection with execution? Easily avoided with the quick death afforded by a bullet to the head.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 9:12:26 PM

>>>They also said Holsey was mentally disabled, but the U.S. Supreme Court denied the stay of execution. <<<

Anyone who kills a man in front of his daughter is mentally disabled.
He is also to dangerous to be kept alive.
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 4:10:34 PM

LibertyGuardian - "The better word would be 'animal'"

Now, now. According to pro-life dogma, all that's required to be a "man" is human DNA.
LibertyGuardian
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 7:55:19 AM

"I wonder if Prince "drank large quantities of alcohol each night after the proceedings" because he knew he was defending a guilty man."

.....

Now there's the rub..."guilty man".

The better word would be "animal" and being farm raised we were very quick to put bad animals down.

Too bad in this animals case it took the State of Georgia far too long at the taxpayers expense.
TuNnL
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 5:41:02 AM

On Dec 10, 2014, therder wrote:

>>> Holsey's attorneys argued against his execution in part because he was represented at trial by Andrew Prince, who they said drank large quantities of alcohol each night after the proceedings. They also said Holsey was mentally disabled, but the U.S. Supreme Court denied the stay of execution. <<<

Ridiculous reasoning! If Prince showed up in court the next morning on time, how much alcohol Holsey’s lawyer consumed the previous night is completely irrelevant. Mentally disabled?! This murderer simply had an IQ of 70 — obviously mentally ENABLED enough to plan and execute a robbery complete with firing a loaded weapon at a sheriff’s deputy at point-blank range.
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 1:37:27 PM

I wonder if Prince "drank large quantities of alcohol each night after the proceedings" because he knew he was defending a guilty man.
therder
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 1:33:13 PM

Hours before Goodwin's execution, 49-year-old Robert Wayne Holsey was put to death in Georgia by lethal injection for fatally shooting Baldwin County sheriff's deputy Will Robinson in the head after a convenience store robbery in 1995. Holsey's attorneys argued against his execution in part because he was represented at trial by Andrew Prince, who they said drank large quantities of alcohol each night after the proceedings. They also said Holsey was mentally disabled, but the U.S. Supreme Court denied the stay of execution.

Good job Georgia. I'm tired of simple-mindedness being used to mitigate punishment for wicked acts.
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 9:31:36 AM

A Missouri inmate was put to death early Wednesday for fatally beating a 63-year-old woman with a hammer in 1998, the state's record 10th lethal injection of 2014 to match Texas for the most executions in the country this year.

Paul Goodwin, 48, sexually assaulted Joan Crotts in St. Louis County, pushed her down a flight of stairs and beat her in the head with a hammer.

Well done MO.
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 6:12:20 AM

A man who killed a suburban Kansas City gas station attendant in front of the worker's young stepdaughter in 1994 was put to death early Wednesday — the ninth execution in Missouri this year.

Leon Taylor, 56, was pronounced dead at 12:22 a.m. at the state prison in Bonne Terre, minutes after receiving a lethal injection. With Taylor's death, 2014 ties 1999 for having the most executions in a year in Missouri.

Mizzou is starting to Show-Me something. Well Done!
2ovrpar
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A Florida man who fatally shot his sleeping wife and then raped and killed his young stepdaughter 22 years ago was put to death Thursday for the child's slaying.

Chadwick Banks, 43, was pronounced dead at 7:27 p.m. EST Thursday after a lethal injection at Florida State Prison, the office of Gov. Rick Scott said.

Banks ordered a last meal of fried fish, French fries, hush puppies, banana pudding and ice cream, said spokeswoman Jessica Cary with the Florida Department of Corrections. Fourteen family members visited him and he spent time with a spiritual adviser.

Florida uses a three-drug mixture to execute prisoners: midazolam hydrochloride, vecuronium bromide and potassium chloride. The drugs are administered intravenously and are intended to first induce unconsciousness, then paralysis and finally cardiac arrest.

Nice job for the Sunshine state. Makes me want to have a glass of orange juice,
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2014 5:10:14 PM

Kudos to Texas on a job done.
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 7:09:52 AM

A former gang member was put to death on Tuesday night for the fatal shootings of three rivals 14 years ago in San Antonio.

Miguel Paredes, 32, was convicted along with two other men of the murders in September 2000 of three people with ties to the Mexican mafia. The victims’ bodies were rolled up in a carpet,dumped and set on fire.

His execution was the 10th this year in Texas, the nation’s most active death penalty state. One other Texas inmate is scheduled to die in December and at least nine are scheduled for execution in early 2015,.
rdamurphy
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 10:46:56 AM

as a lifelong repub n conserv a death penalty supporter here

but for different reasons then been listed my main reason being this
i dont want them enjoying 1 more moment
not by reading a book
not by watching a movie
not by enjoying their thots (maybe reliving their crimes)
not by self pleasure
not in any way in any form at any time

the end
mnjrfan
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 7:06:38 AM

rumbleseat: "There is no honour in barbarians carrying out the death penalty."

Complete nonsense!

If we as a society can put down a bear, wolf, dog, etc, that has been deemed a threat to society, why not a human being? The death penalty works for me!
2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 6:22:32 AM

A Texas woman convicted of the starvation and torture death of her girlfriend's 9-year-old son a decade ago was executed Wednesday evening.

Lisa Coleman, 38, received a lethal injection about an hour after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a last-day appeal to spare her. She was pronounced dead at 6:24 p.m. CDT on 9-17, 12 minutes after Texas Department of Criminal officials began administering a lethal dose of pentobarbital.

Another notch for the Lone Star State.


[Edited by: 2ovrpar at 9/25/2014 6:23:08 AM EST]
flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2014 5:58:02 PM

RJ - "There's no intelligence in leaving a demonstrated threat alive to kill again." Amen to that statement for sure.....

One thing for certain --- the rate of recidivism is zero when the Death Penalty is properly applied.

Rumble if you feel that I or we are barbarians - I suggest you dont live near us and for sure dont break the laws that we, as a society, have determined rate the Death Penalty.
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2014 5:48:32 PM

therder - "Judge orders Kentucky penitentiary to hold powwow for deathrow inmates"

Considering that the first and third paragraphs contradict each other, this doesn't seem like a particularly competent judge.

Or maybe there's more to the story.

[Edited by: rjhenn at 9/23/2014 5:48:53 PM EST]
therder
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2014 5:33:35 PM

Judge orders Kentucky penitentiary to hold powwow for deathrow inmates

Death row inmates demanding privileges. I hope they also get to smoke the peace pipe. Wouldn't want them to be "irreparably harmed".

2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 8:27:58 AM

A Texas death row inmate, Willie Trottie, convicted of killing his former common-law wife and her brother more than two decades ago in Houston was executed by lethal injection Wednesday evening.

As the lethal dose of the powerful sedative pentobarbital kicked in, he closed his eyes and breathed quietly. After about eight breaths, he opened his mouth to exhale, then closed it. There was no further movement.

Kudos to Texas on a job.......done!
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 1:13:59 AM

rumbleseat - "There is no honour in barbarians carrying out the death penalty."

There's no intelligence in leaving a demonstrated threat alive to kill again.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 11:21:06 PM

"I really dont give a fig how comfortable the killer was during the execution."
There is no honour in barbarians carrying out the death penalty.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 8:59:35 PM

>>I really dont give a fig how comfortable the killer was during the execution. Kill him fast and efficiently and call it good. <<

A few years ago I did some reading on midlevel and roman era execution methods. Those people truly believed in punishment.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 8:51:18 PM

Johnny - I really dont give a fig how comfortable the killer was during the execution. Kill him fast and efficiently and call it good.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 8:33:37 PM

Today Missouri administered justice for two workers of the Ruby Tuesday restaurant chain.
Earl Ringo, Junior and an accomplice robbed a Ruby Tuesday restaurant in Columbia Missouri. During the course of the robbery the two executed two store employees. The first victim was a company delivery truck driver who was shot in the face from about six inches. The second victim was forced to attempt to open the safe and then also shot in the head. All of this for $1,400 dollars.

As with the other seven executions in Missouri this year the guilt of the low life piece of garbage was not in doubt. The only questions were about the racial makeup of the jury and the comfort for the killer.


Earl Ringo Jr. Executed
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2014 1:19:37 AM

sgm4law - "I think I'll just put this here, in noting another exoneration."

Does that actually mean anything other than that the justice system keeps getting better?

Not perfect, but better.
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I think I'll just put this here, in noting another exoneration.
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