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runningmp

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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2007 10:04:13 PM

On January 9, 2007 the State of Oklahoma executed Corey Hamilton for the 1992 execution-style slaying of four employees at Lee's Famous Recipe Chicken Restaurant in Tulsa 14 years ago. The four robbers took $2,200 and then forced the victims into the restaurant's walk-in refrigerator on August 17, 1992. They were each shot once in the back of the head.

Justice has been served.

Tulsa Killer Executed For Quadruple Slaying

[Edited by: runningmp at 1/9/2007 10:04:19 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 9:37:59 PM

On 22 January 2001 Jose Villegas went to the home of his X-girlfriend, Erida Perez and used cocaine with her. When Erida’s mother returned to the house she told Jose to leave. Jose then went to the kitchen took a knife and killed the mother, his X-girlfriend and her 3 year old son. Each of the victims had between 19 and 35 stab wounds. Jose was seen at the scene of the crime at the time the murders occurred, was caught driving one of the victims cars and admitted to police he had committed the murders. At the time of the murders Jose was on bail for assault of a woman and sexual assault of a child. He was due in court for these crimes on the day of the murders.

Today 16, April 2014 the State of Texas executed Jose Villegas, justice has been done.


Texas executes man for fatally stabbing 3 members of family
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2014 12:49:34 PM

On 9 April 2014 Texas executed Ramiro Hernandez for the 1997 killing of 49 year old Glen Lich.
Ramiro was in the U.S. illegally and had escaped from a Mexican prison where he was imprisoned for a murder there. Mr. Lich had given Hernandez work on his ranch and a room to stay in. One night Hernandez lured Lich out of his house and beat him to death with a piece of steel rebar. He then entered the house and repeatedly raped Ms. Lich while threatening to kill her daughter and mother who were sleeping in the house.
Texas executes man who escaped Mexican prison, murdered college professor.
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2014 11:59:22 AM

The death penalty needed to be used in this case......
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 11:05:28 AM

Can we send you Eugene Gall for a proper end to his miserable excuse for a "life" ???
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2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 6:18:01 AM

Texas does it right.
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 10:40:05 PM

Serial killer Tommy Lynn Sells, 49, was put to death Thursday in Texas after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected his lawyers' demand that the state release information about where it gets its lethal injection drug. Lawyers for Sells contended they needed to know the name of the pharmacy in order to verify the drug's quality and protect Sells from unconstitutional pain and suffering. Does avoiding cruel and unusual punishment mean that it has to be pain free and enjoyable? I think the founding fathers were trying to avoid drawing and quartering, crucifixion, and impaling. Giving someone a heavy dose of sedatives is about as pain-free as you can get.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2014 12:09:36 PM

. Bringing back chain gangs/hard labor would be better... Current 'Club Fed' system isn't working, most criminals don't much mind a vacation in a Club Fed... so they eventually get into murder... we need to change their thinking BEFORE they get that hardened... teach them how to be contributing members of society...

. Also, no talking in prisons, inmates only going to learn even worse thinking... inmates should only be allowed to talk to guards and on the phone to people outside of prison who know how to stay out of prison... make the phone calls cheap enough so that they can do that... local calls free... L.D. cheap...
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2014 1:38:35 AM

johnnyg1200 - "Today 27 March 2014 the State of Texas executed Anthony Doyle for the beating death and robbery of 47 year old Hyun Cho."

And more complaints about sourcing the chemicals. Just put a .22 in the back of the skull.

Or put a few of them in suicide vests and blow them up. That'll probably quiet down those who are objecting to chemical methods.
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2014 11:45:04 PM

"Good riddance and may he rot in Hell."

Wishing someone "rots in Hell," no matter what they did in life, is just wrong.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-2.

GTH
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2014 9:38:26 PM

Today 27 March 2014 the State of Texas executed Anthony Doyle for the beating death and robbery of 47 year old Hyun Cho.

2003, Doyle placed an order for delivery with the Chaha Donut shop, disguising his voice and saying his name was Mary. When Cho arrived to deliver the food, Doyle beat her to death with a baseball bat, put her body into a trash can, and attempted to clean the blood from the walls and floor. He took her car, cell phone, and credit cards and drove to meet his friends, to whom he indicated he had murdered someone, stating that he was not “playing” anymore. They attempted to use Cho’s credit cards to make purchases.


Today justice has been done.



[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 3/27/2014 9:45:59 PM EST]
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KansasGunman
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2014 8:56:47 AM

"Today Wednesday 26 March 2014 the State of Missouri exicuted Jeffery Furguson more than 25 years after he kidnapped, raped, and murdered a 17 year old girl from the gas station where she was working."

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Society would have been far better served had the hospital tossed the maggot into the bio-waste container and kept the afterbirth instead.

Good riddance and may he rot in Hell.
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2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2014 6:25:45 AM

A little late, but the Show Me State gets it right.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2014 1:53:49 AM

Today Wednesday 26 March 2014 the State of Missouri exicuted Jeffery Furguson more than 25 years after he kidnapped, raped, and murdered a 17 year old girl from the gas station where she was working.

Evidence against Furguson included eyewitnesses who saw Furguson at the gas station at the time of the abduction, witnesses who saw the victim getting into a vehicle identical to the one Ferguson owned. Ferguson attempted to have his vehicle painted by a friend because it matched the one police were looking for. Jewelry belonging to the victim was turned over to police by the person Ferguson tried to sell it to. Hair matching the victim was found in Ferguson's vehicle. Carpet fibers matching the carpet in Ferguson's car were found on the victim and sperm matching Ferguson was found on the victims cloths, on the victim and in the victim. This only represent some of the evidence used to convict Ferguson.

Ferguson's guilt is not in doubt.

After more than 25 years and twice being sentenced to death justice is done.

Convicted killer Jeffrey Ferguson executed



[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 3/26/2014 1:55:45 AM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2014 12:26:11 AM

I am a bit late with this one but here it is.
On Thursday 20 March the state of Florida put the man who killed two people.
Here are the details of the crime.

on November 1, 1987 firefighters and police officers responded to a fire at Cloth World, a fabric store on South Federal Highway in Deerfield Beach, Florida. Inside they found two of the store's employees. Phyllis Harris was tied up in the men's restroom, and Janet Thermidor was on the floor of the women's restroom. Each had been hit in the head with a hammer and set on fire. Phyllis was dead and her body was still burning when she was found. Although suffering from a head wound and burns over more than ninety percent of her body, Thermidor was conscious. After being taken to a local hospital, she told a police officer that after the store closed, she had gone to a back office to count the day's receipts while Phyllis and Robert Lavern Henry, the store's maintenance man, stayed on the sales floor. After first attacking Phyllis and tying her up with cord from the store's shelves, Henry had entered the office, hit Janet in the head, and stolen the store's money. Henry then left the office, but returned, threw a liquid on Janet, and set her on fire as she begged him not to do it, then did the same to Phyllis. Janet said she ran to the restroom in an effort to extinguish the fire. "I don't know why he had to do that to me. He didn't have to do that to me," she said on the taped interview. She died the following morning.

Justice is done.
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"There's no evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent, though it does keep those executed from doing more harm. Much of its failure as a deterrent may be due to the fact that it is rarely implemented, and then only after many years of appeals. "

RJhenn, I agree with that statement...

Death row inmates in the U.S. typically spend over a decade awaiting execution. Some prisoners have been on death row for well over 20 years.

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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2014 6:33:25 AM

The Lone Star State puts another animal down. Well done!
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:07:12 AM

On March 19, 2014, the State of Texas executed Ray Jasper for the 1998 robbery and murder of 33-year-old recording studio owner David Alejandro. According to prosecutors, Jasper used a knife to slit Alejandro’s throat from ear to ear, then held the man as an accomplice named Steven Russell stabbed him more than 20 times.

Evidence and testimony from the trial showed Jasper purchased large bags intended to carry stolen equipment from the studio, and that up to $30,000 worth of items were taken. Jasper’s girlfriend also testified that he told her of his plans.

Justice has been served.

Texas Executes Inmate

[Edited by: runningmp at 3/24/2014 12:07:40 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2014 1:28:05 PM

Happyherman - "If the death penalty is working why are there so many executions?"

Executions are quite rare. The average this century has been about 50 a year in the US, population well over 300 million, with over 10,000 murders each year.

"Canada hasn't had the death penalty for many years and the murder rates have Ben going steadily downhill."

While the murder rate in Canada declined by 36% between 1991 and 2004, the U.S. murder rate declined by 44%.

Much of this decrease can be attributed, in both countries, to removing lead from gasoline.

There's no evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent, though it does keep those executed from doing more harm. Much of its failure as a deterrent may be due to the fact that it is rarely implemented, and then only after many years of appeals.
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2014 8:45:59 AM

Good riddance to a scumbag.

Rot in Hell maggot food.

It ought to be law that his grave stone have the following inscribed epitaph: “Here lies a complete waste of DNA".
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 11:33:42 PM

Here is another killer who couldn’t be stopped by incarceration.
This one is from Briton. They don’t have a death penalty.

Robert John Maudsley (born June 1953) is a British serial killer responsible for the murders of four people. He committed three of these murders in prison after receiving a life sentence for a single murder.
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 11:17:43 PM

>>Happy, Canada hasn't had the death penalty for many years and the murder rates have Ben going steadily downhill...<<

Violent crimes are usually higher in the U.S. than in Canada. While some property crimes in Canada are higher than their U.S. counterparts.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 10:58:22 PM

The death penalty is the only way to insure that these cold blooded killers will never kill again.

Here are some excerpts from the bio of one recently executed animal.

>>>>>On July 17, 1974, Askari Abdullah Muhammad, then known as Thomas Otis Knight, abducted his employer, Sydney Gans, a wealthy Miami business man on his way to work, forced him to return to his home and held his wife Lillian hostage, demanding a $50,000 ransom. Gans obtained the money from his bank while Knight held Lillian hostage, pointing a semi-automatic weapon at her head as she circled the block in the car. Gans was able to speak to FBI agents while in the bank, and told them he preferred to pay the ransom rather than risk his wife's life. After returning to the car, Knight instructed Gans to drive to a secluded area, where Knight fatally shot Gans and his wife.<<<<<

No one can garentee that these animals can be kept locked up.

>>>>On September 19, 1974, while awaiting trial on two counts of first-degree murder, Knight escaped from jail with 10 other inmates. A massive, nationwide manhunt ensued and Knight was recaptured on December 31, 1974.<<<<<<

Now if this rabid animal had been executed in a timely manner this wouldn’t have happened. No one can guarantee that the monsters won’t kill even if they are in prison.

>>>>>>On October 12, 1980, Knight repeatedly thrust a sharpened serving spoon into the chest of corrections officer Richard Burke, 48 killing him.<<<<<<<<

It’s not that I am blood thirsty. I don’t want these animals to kill more innocent people.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 2/26/2014 10:59:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 10:41:17 PM

<<If the death penalty is working why are there so many executions?>>

Because there is a certain portion of our population that is pretty bloodthirsty. They scare the rest of us.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 10:06:58 PM

If the death penalty is working why are there so many executions? Canada hasn't had the death penalty for many years and the murder rates have Ben going steadily downhill.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 7:35:44 PM

>>>>>>>> That's an interesting thought. Perhaps procedural appeals, that have nothing to do with guilt or innocence, should be banned.<<<<<

If the defendant’s rights to a fair trial are violated we need to look into that. But if the only defense is that being put to sleep is cruel I ask people to look at how the victim died. None of the murders I have seen could be called humane. Raped and then stabbed and left to bleed to death, raped and shot, robbed and shot then having to watch your husband executed for a few pieces of jewelry.

I have more interest in the comfort of a sick dog that has to be put down then I do with the comfort of these so called human beings.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 7:24:05 PM

Today in Florida Paul Howell was executed for the 1992 murder of Highway Patrol Officer Jimmy Fulford.

In February of 1992 Paul Howell was concerned that Tamie Bailey could implicate him and his brother in an earlier murder. Howell, who was a drug dealer, made a bomb, placed it in a microwave oven and then gift wrapped it to look like a present. Howell then rented a car and gave the bomb and rented car to an associate, Lester Watson to deliver to Tamie. Watson who thought he was delivering drugs was pulled over for speeding. Watson did not have a driver’s license and gave the police a faults name. After checking it was discovered that the car was not rented to Watson and his real name was reveled. Police contacted Howell to insure the car was not stolen. Howell informed police that he had loaned the car to Watson but did not know he intended to travel so far from his home but did not mention the bomb. Watson was arrested and taken to jail. While checking the car Highway Patrol Trooper Jimmy Fulford was killed instantly when the bomb detonated.

After 24 years Justice has been done.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 3:16:32 PM

johnnyg1200 - "I believe in insuring that the person put to death has to have a fair trial and the proof of guilt should be incontrovertible. But once guilt is no longer in dispute, the sentence should be carried out in a timely manner. These long delays only serve to torment the family of the victim."

That's an interesting thought. Perhaps procedural appeals, that have nothing to do with guilt or innocence, should be banned.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 12:33:37 PM

Something to think about, the family of Ann Harrison got to spend a total of 15 years with their daughter. They had to spend the next 25 years waiting for the state to execute justice, ten year more time than they had with their daughter.

I believe in insuring that the person put to death has to have a fair trial and the proof of guilt should be incontrovertible. But once guilt is no longer in dispute, the sentence should be carried out in a timely manner. These long delays only serve to torment the family of the victim.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 6:07:36 AM

Number 2 this year for the Show-Me-State.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 4:08:06 AM

On March 22 1989 Ann Harrison, 15 was waiting for her school bus when she was approached by Michael Taylor and Roderick Nunley. The two men had stolen a car and using crack cocaine. The stated reason for approaching Ann Harrison was that the two men wanted to steel her purse. But Michael instead grabbed Ann and forced her into the car. The two men then took Ann to Nuley's mother's house were she was forced to crawl to the basement then rapped and sodomized. She was then tied up and forced into the trunk of the stolen car. Fearing that Ann would be able to identify them the two decided to kill the 15 year old girl. They went back to the kitchen and retrieved two knives and each stabbed Ann a total of ten times. According to the medical examiner Ann died about half and hour later. The car was then abandoned with Ann still alive but bleeding to death in the trunk.

Today after twenty five years justice has been done.
Missouri executes man in slaying of Kansas City teen
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2014 11:11:00 AM

I am 100% in support of execution being carried out in the very same manner their victim was murdered...

I'm betting that The meaning of the Death Penalty and whether is sends a message will become perfectly clear.

When it comes to punishment I'm to the right of Attila the Hun and my method of punishment would not only be creative, it would be lethal.
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 5:22:32 PM

>>>>Do you consider the death penalty to have "worked" when someone who is executed is later exonerated? What an interesting concept of its function!<<<<

I’m not going to say accidents don’t happen, the can. But with DNA evidence the mistakes are far and few between. The death penalty should be reserved for the cases where guilt is not in question. I in cases like Smulls where he killed a man as he begged for his life I have far more concern for the wife of the victim who had to watch as her husband was executed before her eyes after she was shot. She still has medical problems and constant pain as a result of being shot by Smulls. She has had to repeatedly testify through the original trial, the penalty phase and then through the appeals process. Then she had to watch as people were concerned about the method of execution being too painful.

This man needed to die and I don’t care about the method, he earned his punishment.
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 1:30:54 PM

>>>>Do you consider the death penalty to have "worked" when someone who is executed is later exonerated? What an interesting concept of its function!<<<<<<<<

In the most recent executions guilt was not a question.


12 Feb 2014 Juan Carlos Chavez led investigators to the body of a nine year old boy he abducted, raped, murdered and dismembered. His guilt is not in question.

3 Feb 2014 Suzanne Basso along with others killed a killed a 59 year old mentally disabled man for his insurance and other assets she was named heir. The victim was beaten to death with a base ball bat and steel toed shows. Her own children testified against her. Her guilt is not in question

29 Jan 2014 Herbert Smulls. He walked into a jewelry store with a 15 year old accomplice Smulls then shot the wife of the stores owner twice and shot and killed the owner of the store as he begged for his life. Smulls was caught 15 minuets later with the jewelry, the gun and wearing blood staind cloths. His guilt is not in question.

23 Jan 2014 Kenneth Hogan. Killed 21 year old Lisa Stanley by stabbing her 25 times, including slicing her larynx. Blood was found through the entire apartment. Her blood was found on her cloths and Hogan admitted his guilt in killing Stanly. His guilt is not in question.

22 Jan 2014 Edgar Tamayo. Edgar was arrested for robbing a man in the parking lot of a bar. While being taken to the police station Edgar retrieved a gun he had hidden in his waste band and shot the police office multiple times. Edgar was captured while still handcuffed and admitted to shooting the officer. His guilt is not in question.
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 10:47:19 AM

Do you consider the death penalty to have "worked" when someone who is executed is later exonerated? What an interesting concept of its function!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 7:48:05 AM

It doesn't always work to stop them from voting, however.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 7:14:23 AM

The guillotine used to work well back in the day.
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 11:29:20 PM

All the agonizing re. the method of execution seems so pointless. A bullet to the back of the skull would appear to be certain and quick, so what's the problem?
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2014 8:46:16 AM

While there are currently 121 people on Death Row here in AZ there are only 10 on death Row back home in Kansas but all trash none the less and the sooner the State sweeps them out from under the carpet of Society the better.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2014 6:34:11 AM

Kudos to the Sunshine State on a job.........done.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 9:05:28 PM

Today the state of Florida executed Juan Carlos Chavez by lethal injection. Chavez was convicted of the Sept 1995 murder of Jimmy Ryce. Chaves admitted to abducting the nine year old boy after he got off the school bus raping him murdering him then dismembering his body. Chavez was executed after the U.S Supreme Court rejected his last minute appeal. The appeal had nothing to do with the guilt of Chavez who led police to the body of the nine year old boy three months after he disappeared. Once again the appeal was over the method of execution. The state Supreme Court rejected the appeals because in their words it “constitutes a delaying tactic that is not supported by equitable considerations.”

Justice has been done.
Jimmy Ryce’s Killer Executed
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2014 10:13:43 PM

>>>>>>>>>One thing for sure - upon completion of sentence the rate of recidivism is zero.<<<<<<<

That's the whole idea.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 7:50:46 PM

One thing for sure - upon completion of sentence the rate of recidivism is zero.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 6:56:45 PM

>>>>Missouri is taking lessons from Texas.<<<<

I would like to see us reach the point where people will say Texas is taking a lesson from Missouri.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 6:04:09 AM

Missouri is taking lessons from Texas.
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>>>First off an appeal is not enough to stop an execution. I takes a stay of execution to stop an execution. At the time of execution there were no stays in effect.

Right. Nothing illegal happened. Personally, I favor the death penalty for the most heinous crimes but in such an instance I also favor playing it safe. It IS the death penalty -- I see no reason not to wait the few minutes it would've taken, which according to the article is at least somewhat customary...of course the article tries to claim the Smulls case was all about race, so who knows.

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 1:44:26 AM

>>>>>>>>>>>According to the article the last 3 executions were carried out while appeals were still pending. It would seem that Missouri is getting in the bad habit of executing people before courts have finished deciding.<<<<<<<<<<<

Now seeing as I am on a rant lets get to some of the facts in the case.
I have already explained why Smulls needed to die.

Now I will talk about the appeal that was not finished before this piece of garbage's execution. On the day of the execution his lawyers got a last minuet stay from the U.S. Supreme Court. That stay was cleared the appeal you are whining about was filled less than 30 minuets before Smulls was pronounced dead. Smulls lawyers had 22 years to argue everything from Smulls abusive childhood to his drug use to the color of the judges underwear. If we let these last minuet appeals stop an executed no one would ever have to face the death penalty, and that's exactly what the bleeding hearts want.

The whinny crying bleeding hearts have all the concern in the world for a rabid dog that butchers innocent people. The people you never hear them say a word about is the deceased victim, the wounded survivors or the family of the deceased.

Larry Flynt had to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair. He lived in excruciating pain for years and became addicted to his pain medication.

The wife of the man Smulls killed gave an interview to the St. Louis Post. She suffers from permanent injury and pain as a result of the attack. If that wasn't enough here is what she had to say about the long wait for justice. " "Make no mistake, the long, winding and painful road leading up to this day has been a travesty of justice," she said.""
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 11:43:44 PM

IammeCA - that Smulls guy had 23 years of appeals adn attempts to prove he should not be help accountable for his crime. How much time is enough? As far as I can see tha state did nothing wrong!!!!
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 11:35:51 PM

>>>According to the article the last 3 executions were carried out while appeals were still pending. It would seem that Missouri is getting in the bad habit of executing people before courts have finished deciding.<<<

First off an appeal is not enough to stop an execution. I takes a stay of execution to stop an execution. At the time of execution there were no stays in effect.

The article you linked to they pointed out the Smulls was black and convicted by and all white jury before they even mentioned Smulls name except in the headline. They did not mention the nature of the crime Smulls committed. Smulls walked into a jewelry store and executed the owner and tried to kill his wife. Read up on this monster he executed the man in cold blood as he begged for Smulls to stop and then shot his wife who only survived by playing dead. As for question of guilt, Smulls was caught 15 minutes later with the jewelry and the gun in his possession and wearing blood stained clothes.

One of the other case mentioned was a man Named Allen Nicklasson. What wasn’t mentioned in the race batting article was the fact that Nicklasson was white. On his way to buy drugs his car broke down. while his car was in the shop he used his time to break into a house robbed it. Warned that the car would not get very far he and his two companions continued until the car broke down again. When a man stopped to help, they kidnapped him, took him into the woods, make him kneel down and executed him with two shots to the head and stole his car.
Kincklasson then fled to Arizona where his stolen car broke down in the dessert. He went to a house for help and killed the owners wife, made the man drive him back to the broke down car and executed him. All of this was admitted to in jail house interviews.

The last case was Joseph Paul Franklin, also white but the race bating article didn’t mention that again. They didn’t even mention that Joseph was a white supremacist.
This guy was a real jewel. In 1977 he blew up a truck loaded with dynamite outside the home of a Jewish pro-Israel lobbyist. He didn’t kill anyone, nor for a lack of trying. Again in 1977 he firebombed a snagoge.
In 1978 he tried to kill Larry Flynt and his lawyer crippling Flynt. Again in 1978 he killed a man in Chattanooga and wounded the man’s girlfriend. The reason for this attack was the fact that they were a by racial couple.
1979 Joseph killed the black manager of a Taco Bell because he was in close contact with white women.
1980 Joseph shot and seriously wounded a civil rights activist again because was seen with white women. 1980 again he killed a 13 and a 14 year boys as he waited on an overpass to shoot racially mixed couples. He wasn’t done in 1980. He picked up two woman 19 and 26 and killed them after one of them told him she was dating a black man.

Joseph admitted to all of these crimes. He killed at least 6 including children and wounded I don’t know how many others.

With the last three executed in Missouri there was no question as to guilt. I am sick of the anti-death penalty folks using the last minute appeals to try to save the life of cold blooded killers where guilt and the heinous nature of the crime is not in doubt. They are worried about the comfort of the filthy dogs as they die. As far as I am concerned a bullet to the head is far more humane that they deserve considering the crimes they have committed. A low fire would be fine with me as long as they are dead in the end.

If the appeals are based on the evidence bringing the convicteds guilt into question I’m all for making sure we have the guilty person. If the reason we had these appeals is because the lawyer wants to know where the drugs came from, too bad. If the appeals are because some one feels that lethal injection it inhuman maybe they should think about what the victim went through when they were killed. I’m for bringing back public hangings.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 2/6/2014 11:36:56 PM EST]
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 11:32:02 PM

Tamme, I almost shed a tear for the convicted murderer who paid for his crime. As the article you posted stated there was NO STAY in effect at the time of execution.
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IammeCA
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 2:30:16 PM

"On January 29, 2014, the State of Missouri executed Herbert Smulls...
Justice has been served."

He was declared dead 4 minutes BEFORE his final appeal was denied.

According to the article the last 3 executions were carried out while appeals were still pending. It would seem that Missouri is getting in the bad habit of executing people before courts have finished deciding.
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