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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2014 2:51:26 PM

California motorists filling up after January 1, 2015 are likely to experience sticker shock as a result of a state agency-mandated gas "fee". Remember recent talk about cap-and-trade? Yep, that's the culprit!NACS reports that Jay McKeeman, vice president of government relations and communications for the California Independent Oil Marketers Association (CIOMA), penned an article for the Sacramento Bee last week congratulating the state Legislature for passing a budget on time. He also pointed out a troubling aspect of the state’s cap-and-trade system that most residents are unaware of. Beginning January 1, 2015, revenues from cap and trade “are expected to jump from the millions to between $3 billion and $5 billion” because gasoline and diesel will be included in the cap-and-trade program. “This means those ‘polluters’ who will be footing the financial windfall for the state aren’t smokestack industries, but California drivers,” McKeeman wrote. ...

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J Eric
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2015 3:40:53 AM

As of this morning, the price for USA Gasoline had risen 8¢ per gallon overnight. Chevron and Mobil at Sherman Way and Whitsett Avenue in North Hollywood remained the same. Guess Tesoro (refiner of USA) must have been hit with a load of carbon tax fines this past year. But I expect all the other brands to similarly rise within a few days.

Sure is a nice time to be an Indian, in forest management. (They receive some of the increased funds as payment for being nice to the world.)
clpassenubye
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2014 6:10:52 PM

If you thinking about moving to CA the negatives outweigh the positives stay where you are
JOHNJOEYJOE
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2014 6:56:11 AM

Go figure!
altima2008
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 3:06:39 PM

Another nobama mess
jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2014 8:50:56 PM

honda0105 said: "it spiked diesel to >$5/gal in the US when Bush was in office"

I'd prefer another short-duration spike like that to the many YEARS now we've been paying well over $3/gallon.

But remember...the Bush administration didn't do ANYTHING to cause that spike, whereas the Obozo administration has been quite clear that they want Americans to pay high prices for energy. Obozo had blocked drilling on federal lands. Obozo put a moratorium on Gulf drilling for 2 years.
J Eric
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2014 8:04:22 PM

Guess we'll find out pretty soon now. I'll get my Carbon Dunce Cap out. I've heard the Indians are the major recipients of the money, as they foster green forest management plans.
clpassenubye
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2014 12:33:42 AM

Yep I've been dreading this
FieroGT
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Message Posted: Dec 24, 2014 10:49:51 PM

I'm learning that I'm glad I don't live in California.
gasmask78
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2014 11:18:04 AM

?
gasmask78
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2014 11:17:53 AM

Yay
Tundralimited2009
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 3:08:39 AM

Go CA
lostsoul
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2014 7:13:18 AM

nothing new
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2014 11:12:04 AM

It is not a surprise to me. I have predicted, as have others, that prices would skyrocket after cap-and-trade was passed in this state, and it is the fault of the DemocRAT-controlled state legislature.
Tundralimited2009
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2014 1:21:41 AM

Time is getting short...
Robert44
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2014 2:39:49 PM

Good! They voted for liberal jerks in office so get coming back at them. I know I won't be visit CA anytime soon!!!

gdale6
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2014 1:48:54 PM

Screw CA, I split that miserable place over a decade ago and have never looked back. At some point the people of CA will overthrow those in office and all this crap will end.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 6:58:39 AM

excellent assessment. Unfortunately the proletarii are breeding too much, crowding out the rest...
Tundralimited2009
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2014 1:57:33 AM

Time will tell...
fedupp
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2014 7:49:59 AM

That is one of the biggest problems with this country today,Honda-reality has become opinion,not fact----and politics,and propaganda,for most- have far more influence than truth.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2014 6:04:56 AM

fed: too bad, most people don't want to be reminded that their "memory" of history is not correct.
wompasscat
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 10:26:33 PM

Really.
fedupp
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 10:14:36 AM

Anyone that knows anything about oil/fuel will blame Bush and Cheney for sky high oil/fuel prices from now on--Obama gets some blame also---but the main damage was done long before we even knew who Obama was----Just so you know, 6 months before Obama took office oil was $147.00 per barrel and gasoline was $4.25 where it had climbed steadily since the start of the second invasion of Iraq-and the shutting down,and splitting up of Iraq's huge cheap oil fields after march 20 2003---and the only reason it was cut in half by the time Obama took office is because the market had melted down,and with it most commodities,including oil/fuel-in large part because of the Iraq war and the quadrupling of the price of fuel from 2003-2008-----the only thing that has happened since Obama got in was the market came back up,and with it the high,or sky high prices we have seen since 2003.Well that, and just in the last couple of years,EPA restrictions,mileage requirements,trying to expand the 2005 and 2007 ethanol mandates-and now cap and trade,in California-talk of new taxes,etc. that is Obama's part-and it will add great cost---but before the last 2 years---almost all a direct result of the near retarded actions of "W"/Cheney.
the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 8:31:14 AM

breathing license to follow?
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 5:54:18 AM

lunen: and it spiked diesel to >$5/gal in the US when Bush was in office in August 2008.
lunenburg12
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 7:10:20 PM

Before you blame Bush/Cheney, remember that gas was $1.84 a gallon the day that Obummer took office.
Fahking
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 10:56:01 AM

ok
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 7:49:23 AM

so, what will CA use the extra billions for... other than wasting the money?
Tundralimited2009
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 1:15:35 AM

Time will tell...
Venom2014
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2014 5:52:31 PM

California is a different world.
RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2014 10:30:44 AM

MAC48 - bear in mind that cap and trade was a Republican idea.
LongPlay
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 9:24:16 PM

California government loves taxes on anything so they can spend, spend, spend!
MAC48
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 7:48:28 PM

One wonders how long the voters in California will continue to put up with the agenda of the political party that has been in control of the state legislature for the last few decades.

Bear in mind that a national "cap and trade" tax on all sources of any greenhouse gases is exactly what the Obama administration has wanted for their environmental legacy since the day they assumed office.
Kinglemuel
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 7:17:33 PM

Maybe there should be 6 or 7 article on this blog, to give folks a choice of articles, and as I already read this yesterday.
gmanor
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 7:15:48 PM

wow! tax and spend....that hurts!
GryphonX
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 4:08:41 PM

I wonder if they know a revolt is brewing ...?
lgwhitlock
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 2:10:23 PM

I guess California found a way to make up for the lower taxes since the great recession hit. Not good...
3940
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 2:05:47 PM

One drop in the pond, now th tidal wave will hit the rest of us, Thank You, Calif
Rockola
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 1:37:37 PM

California - Beautiful state, bad government.

dlemma
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 1:23:31 PM

exactly, fed up..
slvrdo_dsprdo
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:35:39 PM

Because California could use a good spike in gas and diesel prices, right? Are they determined to drive out all the smart people to Arizona and Nevada, or what?
fedupp
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:24:39 PM

Obama sucks,and now he can be tied to ridiculous oil/fuel costs-but anyone giving Bush and Cheney a pass on the high or sky high oil/fuel costs the last 11 years is just not paying attention-from the start of the Iraq war in 2003 to the summer of 2008 crude oil per barrel went up $115.00 per barrel--straight up without interruption from under $30.00 per barrel where it had stayed for two decades--to the all time high price in history of $147.00 per barrel just before the market crashed-----the market crashed,and with it oil/fuel prices for a few short months--and just as soon as the market came back up so did oil/fuel prices-----and the $115.00 per barrel increase in those 5 years-and still to this day,and from now on for that matter--were the direct result of US foreign and domestic policy.
bston
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:23:29 PM

Sticker shock may happen before that.
mageetp
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:21:36 PM

Probably only the start of pump price increases for all states.
bobsalwaysmt
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:16:40 PM

Fire OBAMA!
tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:14:50 PM

Very troubling and where are the conscious voters in that state?
SRcyclist
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:14:27 PM

Gas prices are so volatile that I wonder whether this will make much difference at the pump. It is likely to cut into oil company profits and that's what they're worried about.
ttfn5tigger
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:08:42 PM

ok
JMW1942
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:08:23 PM

Give California to Mexico so the rest of us won't have to pay to bail them out. Our tyrant wants something like this for all of us as part of his plan to fundamentally change America.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:08:19 PM

You don't know gas tax till you come north of the border!!! As for shock, here in Tor. we hit a new high of nearly $1.44 /L ( that's 6.53 /gal Cdn). I unfortunately had to fill up after doing a half fill earlier thinking the spring runup would have to end. My little sub-compact took over $55 to fill from above 1/8th of a tank - that's right wasn't empty. My guess, our small 4-cyl SUV will likely take about $100 to fill from empty now.
PS: prem. fuel differential is also up so I feel sorry for those with high-perf. engines.
arnerator
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:07:44 PM

So.... what's new.
MarAzul
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 12:07:16 PM

Old news.
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