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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2014 9:47:49 AM

In February we alerted you to a horrible accident that occurred in Bradenton, FL. A senior driver thought her SUV was in drive. But it was in reverse and she killed three people in her church's parking lot and injured five others. FL woman kills three with SUV in reverse
But the deadly accident was not the first time 79-year old Doreen Landstra lost control of her Chevy Tahoe. Three years ago she drove her Tahoe into a McDonald's...

Police reports show Doreen Esther Landstra drove her 2009 Chevrolet Tahoe into a McDonald's in Bath, Mich. Police reported that, when she pulled into a parking space, she hit the gas pedal instead of the brake.

“We did have a car go into the lobby,” said a supervisor at the fast food restaurant...

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ranger1169
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 12:09:41 AM

no
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gasmask78
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2014 12:15:09 PM

I agree, despite a bit of hesitation. It's a tough thing to restrict a person's autonomy, but when lives are at stake, the law must intervene and do the right thing.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2014 5:55:53 AM

if it had been committing homicide with a deadly weapon, she'd be in jail. Why is a vehicular homicide different?
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 5:55:44 AM

endy: I think a medical evaluation of the evaluator would be perhaps more in order?
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 5:55:38 AM

time to pull her license. Period.
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Twinnie22
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 2:59:23 AM

Is this woman going to have to take any tests to judge her ability to drive a vehicle and her ability to retain rules of the road? maybe it's time to give up the license.
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Farquon
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2014 12:13:48 AM

She should give it up.
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endymion
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 5:01:46 PM

She killed THREE and injured FIVE. Also has a "medical condition" and went into a building lobby.

Just a six month suspension? Maybe a medical evaluation would help assess her fitness to drive.
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LeftLane1
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 3:57:04 PM

Once---Maybe just an accident
Twice--Indication of a PROBLEM.

Time to HANG UP THE KEYS.
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JOHNJOEYJOE
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 7:22:29 AM

In a word "NO"!
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baddog58
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 2:57:55 AM

Remove her from her car AND from the public!
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agrico
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 9:49:33 PM

don't let her drive anymore
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Pete12
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 8:43:25 PM

It's hard to believe they are still letting her drive.
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SkooterG
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 7:19:12 PM

NO!
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Gia Huy
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 5:43:01 PM

BarbieLoveJax, do you expect people who are going to school there, or working there temporary have to have FL license then ? You must be out of your mind
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BarbieLoveJax
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 5:20:45 PM

She may have always been a bad driver & age has nothing to do with it. I'm a native Floridian and there are tons of people here driving on out of state licenses. How do you really monitor it??
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camusblowers
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 4:45:53 PM

Let's see...No?
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LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 2:41:10 PM

Tomok: "...**Doreen, Doreen, Doreen - time to wake up and smell the roses, park that Tahoe beast and seriously consider other forms of transportation! ****You sure get around, from Michigan to Florida! **Seriously, hang it up girl and be done with it!..."

Dude, that's the best post you've made in weeks! I'm with ya all the way bro! She needs to stay off the streets and others like her who've done the same thing so others don't have to die and so that people and families don't have to suffer.

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qwerty17
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 2:40:47 PM

3 strikes & you're...
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 2:20:42 PM

Careful folks. There are 75+ million baby boomers plus the millions of older citizens who tend to voter at each and every election. If we make it too tough on the senior drivers, we will probably pay a price and perhaps a high price.

If we are going to put "special" driver license renewal requirements on those over say 70, then why not put the same "special" driver license renewal requirements on those younger than 31? Removal of the driving privilege must be done on a case by case basis and not by age.
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fonz08wrx
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:56:04 PM

old people need to just chill in a retirement home
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NotmeuQc
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:47:29 PM

Seniors over 65 should have to take a drivers test every two years (that includes me) and every year once you reach 75 (that includes my dad who has never had an accident and drives everyday).
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:31:17 PM

Two different states definitely complicates the legal issue - but she should have either given up her keys, sought retraining, or at least changed vehicles to something more ergonomically suitable after the first incident.
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cobeng10
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:15:24 PM

When you come to a certain age or disabled. You should be smart enough to stop driving.
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bluebird1
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:13:57 PM

It's not just an age thing but also health (mental & physical). I think Doreen should have hung up her keys after the drive-into McD's. Besides, she's driving a large SUV, guaranteed to be damaging to others & harder to control.
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w4kh
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:05:39 PM

It is *NOT* simply a function of someone's age... it seems pretty clear that old Doreen is in competent to be behind the wheel, and Florida is not willing to fail her driving test (or probably even to require that she be re-examined)

As full disclosure, I am 71, almost 72, and when I have trouble driving, I am DONE with being behind the wheel... it would be nice for me to be driven rather than being everyone's "designated driver"
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Dennisjk
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 1:01:09 PM

Maybe she needs to take the senior bus. Some people, REGARDLESS OF AGE, should not be driving. This should not condemn all older drivers.
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Discovery02
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:50:01 PM

Sounds like there's a pattern of behavior that's been identified. I guess the real question is what's the "bag limit" in Florida for killed pedestrians or "killed" McDonald's restaurants.
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mageetp
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:42:01 PM

Not on any public road.
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Kinglemuel
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:40:26 PM

To add to my previous post: Not just your typical drivers training for new drivers, something more intensive.
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LedWings
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:39:48 PM


No way. Give her a walker.
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macike
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:38:54 PM

If she can pass a driving test, yes.
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IMLURCH
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:38:43 PM

Take her drivers license away.
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Kinglemuel
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:38:41 PM

pricechecker08 is right. Licenses should not be taken away at a certain age.
I would also like to add that if you have had more than one such accident and one resulted in fatalities, you should have your license permanently revoked, unless you go to an intensive driver testing class to make sure that you are competent; you should have to do that every year thereafter as well.
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wayne1066
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:38:03 PM

Yes she should be allowed to drive, but only peddle powered cars.......
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YPSI
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:37:11 PM

With that record and she still have a licence? Unbelievable
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:36:51 PM

k
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kzrooster
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:36:24 PM

So she went to Florida where she took the written test and was good to go. No actual driving test was required. . . that's how she is still driving.
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packards42
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:35:18 PM

Older people probably need anual doctor approval to drive after 80.
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mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:35:14 PM

so she is out to cause more mayhem...till when? and who pays for it?
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Lologogo
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:32:27 PM

NO she shouldn't have a license!
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:31:53 PM

If it was me no one would have to ask. I would have quit after the McDonald's incident.
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:31:31 PM

My father in the UK just turned 75 and had to be assessed before they would renew his license for the next couple of years. Thankfully he passed, as he drives my disabled mother around to her appointments. This should also be the case in the USA.
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DarthDadJr
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:29:23 PM

This is tough...how and when does a state DMV determine a senior is no longer fit to drive?
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FusionCa
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:28:46 PM

No.
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CorvairHaven
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:28:19 PM

Not for me to decide.
A judge has to do it.
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niceguytx
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:27:30 PM

That is very debatable.
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:26:33 PM

ok
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CocoPaz
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:25:52 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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LostAgain2009
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 12:24:56 PM

Take her keys - then have her write a gas related article for this site.
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