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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2014 1:45:25 PM

Missouri motorists may soon be able to fill-up with E15 as early as this summer because of new policy being pushed through by Gov. Jay Nixon, even against objections of some lawmakers.

Missouri has long taken a leading role in promoting ethanol, the corn-based alcohol that has been mixed with conventional gasoline. Back in 2006, Missouri was among the first to require nearly all gasoline be mixed with 10% ethanol, also called E10.

However, Missouri lawmakers have been nervous to adopt a higher concentration of ethanol against concern from car manufacturers, gas stations, motorcycle makers, and small equipment manufacturers, who've said it could increase liability for station owners, harm engines, and caused voided warranties...

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Tundralimited2009
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2014 5:01:27 AM

avoid at all costs
magpie2013
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2014 3:06:09 PM

I would not buy it, as I understand it is less favorable and harmful to our engines, not to mention we will probably be spending more than we would for the other gas. Also wont be traveling thru missouri, so I guess they are willing to give up the tourist money also. This action by their Govenor will be leading to a few new problem definatly.
JOHNJOEYJOE
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2014 6:38:31 PM

I think I will do every thing I can to detour and drive around Missouri when I plan future trips.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 5:45:07 AM

good thing I don't have to travel to Missourah any time soon...
falcons
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 10:09:22 PM

Ok.
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 5:55:37 AM

it's not complicated: stop EtOH in fuel. EtOH never was the answer. Never will be.
lesndave
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 11:12:45 PM

Ugh!!! Get rid of the ethanol!!!!
remay
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 10:54:29 PM

Detour time...
endymion
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 10:25:06 PM

No surprise - it's a farm state.
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 7:01:43 PM

Does E15 provide any net reduction in consumption of oil products, or is it just a way to skim more profits to a small part of the farming sector, while increasing the costs for the rest of us?

By "net", I mean not only gasoline used by the end consumer, but any increase in oil products used to plant, grow, harvest, transport and process the corn used to make the ethanol.

While E15 may cost a bit less than E10, mpg will also be less, so will the cost per mile driven be more or less or about the same?
MadFueler
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 6:26:11 PM

As an option in addition to E0 and E10? Yes - if clearly marked with a separate hose, and also labeled that it's for flex-fuel vehicles only. Instead of those grades, being forced to buy it because there's no other choice? No!
36IHBinder
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 5:43:29 PM

I like green energy. Ethanol being one of them. But you can't force me to buy something that will harm the vehicle or small engines. You need to start by having the motor manufactures make flex engines if it burns gasoline.
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 4:25:17 PM

Eliminate ethanol!
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:40:50 PM

ok
singlemom27
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:35:55 PM

It's about time they realized the downside of their silly ethanol regulations. We need to end ethanol mandates and corn subsidies!
BAJALRRP
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:13:44 PM

It's not complicated....get rid of it!
jimedB
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:08:13 PM

I was born in Missouri but if they start selling E15 I will never visit my home state again. With cars that are cleaner than ever do we still need the current RFS that is much changed from the original bill? It is time to repeal the RFS and get the ethanol removed from gas. If some want to run E10, E15 or E85 sell it in clearly marked seperate pumps but do not force Egas on everyone.
pecos
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:02:28 PM

No its not… ethanol must go.
carefrey
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:00:18 PM

We do not want Ethanol!
bobcatfan
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:00:09 PM

Put ethanol in an oak barrel for 7-12 years, not in a gas tank.
danreino
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:57:42 PM

Big Corn is the debacle of the decade !!
crmedic
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:56:49 PM

I agree with GatorGuy corn is food, fuel for the body not the car!
katmandue
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:55:40 PM

And hard on smaller engines
GatorGuy
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:55:06 PM

It's not really that complicated. Corn goes on your grill and on your plate. Gasoline goes in your tank.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:54:04 PM

Ban ethanol!
StarkForums
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:52:17 PM

I'm glad my area limits are E10.
fuzziWA
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:48:15 PM

ok
MoWhite
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:47:59 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:44:09 PM

old
grab4it
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:43:28 PM

Not good
9C1
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:42:57 PM

Another tree hugger
Jumpmaster82
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:39:28 PM

too bad for missouri - another reason to stay away
honkerman
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:38:46 PM

It's NOT complicated. Just ban ethanol.
lyons681
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:36:23 PM

He must be getting some payola.
skysteve1
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:32:35 PM

O K
Timons
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:32:19 PM

Interesting - Considering MO already has some of the cheapest gasoline in the nation.
Mowerman08
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:31:09 PM

What is Missouri - the J...... State!
ItisAJeepThing
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:29:45 PM

We DO NOT want or need E-15. E-10 reduces the amount of poisonous CARBON MONOXIDE produced by all internal combustion gasoline engines. But MORE IS NOT BETTER!!!
dudleydolittle
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:27:34 PM

VOTE THIS JERK OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
MV_cmtr
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:27:32 PM

no kidding.
satrn38mpg
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:26:12 PM

not much we can do about what the fed will mandate >>
forteras
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:26:06 PM

Get rid of ethanol.
GCmennorunner
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:26:02 PM

Not a fan of E15 or Nixon.
daqw
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:25:30 PM

k
5Golfer8
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:25:24 PM

Idiots!
CrazyQ
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:24:22 PM

Why? E-10 is bad enough.
cssco
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:22:39 PM

I don't vote in Missouri any more but, if I did there is no doubt as to who I would not vote for, Jay.
Jb4588
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:21:42 PM

ok
snoooper
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:18:23 PM

Ethanol is terrible for both vehicles and the environment and it costs more to produce than refined gasoline. Ethanol is also heavily subsidized, that's why it's cheaper then regular.
VB_Richard
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:17:19 PM

Are there any engineers here???
donny47
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 1:15:57 PM

ethanol lobbyist pay off the scumbag politicians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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