Not Logged In Log In   Sign Up   Points Leaders
Follow Us    12:35 PM

Message Forum - Read Message

Category: GasBuddy Official Blog > Topics Add to favorite topics   Post new topicPost New Topic
Author Topic: Officials want cars to be able to talk to each other Back to Topics
PD
Moderator
Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 4:18:52 PM

Talking cars? It may happen soon if government officials have their way. According to an AP story, the government said equipped cars might see a deadly crash coming even if the driver doesn't. Officials are moving to require automakers to equip new vehicles with technology that lets them warn each other when they're plunging toward peril.

The action, still a couple of years off, has "game-changing potential" to cut crashes, deaths and injuries, officials said Monday.

A radio beacon would continually transmit a vehicle's position, heading, speed and other information. Cars would receive the same information back from other vehicles, and a vehicle's computer would alert the driver to an impending collision. Some systems may...

Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article
REPLIES (newest first) Post a Reply
JOHNJOEYJOE
Champion Author Texas

Posts:2,499
Points:629,820
Joined:Oct 2013
Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 7:13:52 AM

Better off to invest this kind of money in mass rail transit. This is just a program to make somebody rich off an unnessary mandate.
deant99
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:179,313
Points:527,640
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Mar 28, 2014 10:45:10 PM

If this saved one life it would be worth it.
magpie2013
Champion Author Milwaukee

Posts:4,918
Points:150,775
Joined:Apr 2013
Message Posted: Mar 23, 2014 9:25:13 PM

Just something we can pay for extra, and just think about the cost to repair or replace. The Government should stop thinking of stupid ways to spend our money that we don't have!
greycat65
Sophomore Author Florida

Posts:228
Points:8,920
Joined:Mar 2014
Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 9:00:26 AM

It's all part of the government agenda to "dumb down" and control society. It worked for Mr. Hitler...the more the government controls the less freedom we have. Cars are a big part of the Info Tech and security tracking of individuals. Is anyone paying attention?
bazportalice
Champion Author British Columbia

Posts:1,623
Points:695,570
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Mar 3, 2014 11:39:31 AM

install a real bumper on all vehicles.
gasmask78
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:4,882
Points:1,110,150
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Mar 1, 2014 1:53:54 PM

yay
riggers711
Champion Author Washington

Posts:2,421
Points:831,830
Joined:Jan 2013
Message Posted: Mar 1, 2014 3:30:37 AM

"Don't blame me its obamas fault"
gasmask78
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:4,882
Points:1,110,150
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Feb 28, 2014 3:08:07 PM

But they'll never take...OUR FREEDOM! *maniacal laugh*

[Edited by: gasmask78 at 2/28/2014 3:08:19 PM EST]
Houckster
Champion Author Atlanta

Posts:11,134
Points:770,080
Joined:Sep 2003
Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 2:52:25 PM

JOHNJOEYJOE writes: I'm just going to stick to the old cars. The government wants something or someone to control every facet of our lives.
______
This is just silly. The more intelligent our cars are, the safer we are. The kind of information that the cars will exchange will be of little if any use to the government but that information may save your life. There are limits to our ability to respond to sudden dangers and cars that can monitor their surroundings and talk to other cars will avoid those situations. Intelligent cars will take a huge bite out of the 30K dead we have each year and the billions of dollars lost in property and hospital care for the injured.

It should be noted that these systems will only override driver input if that input would lead to an accident. Otherwise your car will drive exactly as a dumb car.

With so much to gain, it's unfortunate that so many can only see a negative side that probably doesn't exist.

[Edited by: Houckster at 2/26/2014 2:56:08 PM EST]
gasmask78
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:4,882
Points:1,110,150
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 2:08:43 PM

yepyep
JOHNJOEYJOE
Champion Author Texas

Posts:2,499
Points:629,820
Joined:Oct 2013
Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 6:29:16 PM

I'm just going to stick to the old cars. The government wants something or someone to control every facet of our lives.
gasmask78
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:4,882
Points:1,110,150
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 7:43:06 AM

geez
gasmask78
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:4,882
Points:1,110,150
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 7:42:56 AM

nothing new
wrmedic
Champion Author Nebraska

Posts:3,646
Points:1,097,055
Joined:Apr 2012
Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 9:34:32 PM

How can they say would prevent 80% of the crashes many of the cars on roads wouldn't have this technology for many years and how do you get wildlife to wear one of these units. People just need to pay attention and learn to drive.
tiny1oh
Champion Author Akron

Posts:1,914
Points:1,163,635
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 7:41:47 AM

where will it all end?
Robert44
Champion Author Columbus

Posts:4,932
Points:1,826,610
Joined:Mar 2004
Message Posted: Feb 11, 2014 9:48:01 AM

So it would say, Stop you moron don't see that other car, and other car have same message. So in practice every car would get a message at every occurrence of coming onto another car??? This would drive me CRAZY!!! So I say HE'LL NO to this stupid idea!!!
JOHNJOEYJOE
Champion Author Texas

Posts:2,499
Points:629,820
Joined:Oct 2013
Message Posted: Feb 11, 2014 9:25:50 AM

Era of the Silons and the Borgue. Big Brother will be watching you.
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

Posts:24,091
Points:2,393,340
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 5:54:05 AM

lori: Let's see... there once was a large country, it was the top of the world. And it felt secure enough to become a bit arrogant in the eyes of other countries. And one day, there was an unexpected attack on said country. Suddenly, the people all were thrilled to give up their rights for fake promises of security. And the rest, as they say, is history.
TheeRedRam
Champion Author Hartford

Posts:6,318
Points:1,450,095
Joined:Jun 2011
Message Posted: Feb 9, 2014 12:07:48 PM

Old Old News
lorimarie36
Champion Author New York

Posts:1,226
Points:269,335
Joined:Sep 2013
Message Posted: Feb 9, 2014 8:41:40 AM

"Talking cars? It may happen soon if government officials have their way."
What ever happend to a country governed by the people and for the people?
So, what people are asking for the government (Big Brother) to watch our every single move we make?
Also "...vehicle-to-vehicle communications could prevent up to 80 percent of accidents that don't involve drunken drivers or mechanical failure."
Isn't it the drunk drivers that we would want car communication to protect us from an accident if we chose to have Big Brother take over our cars?
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

Posts:24,091
Points:2,393,340
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Feb 9, 2014 7:43:18 AM

sky: I agree with you on that one.

This isn't making driving safer.
skybiker
Champion Author South Carolina

Posts:9,548
Points:2,290,450
Joined:Jul 2008
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 11:57:44 PM

No thanks, I've lost enough privacy!!..
JimL1
Champion Author Phoenix

Posts:11,187
Points:1,921,170
Joined:Jul 2003
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 6:59:20 PM

Stick it!
GatorGuy
Champion Author Columbia

Posts:4,334
Points:1,913,805
Joined:Jan 2009
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 4:34:24 PM

and are those officials going to pay for this technology? I didn't think so.
geezrtek
Champion Author Michigan

Posts:5,153
Points:910,575
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 4:15:35 PM

Submitted Yesterday
TXryder
Champion Author Texas

Posts:6,203
Points:1,139,150
Joined:Jan 2012
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 3:11:16 PM

If I got one that talked, I would do some wire snipping
sydb7
Champion Author Atlanta

Posts:5,943
Points:2,605,560
Joined:Mar 2003
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 3:05:59 PM

My car needs to keep to itself and only talk to me!
CiVX
Champion Author Oakland

Posts:10,036
Points:2,114,310
Joined:Feb 2009
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 3:01:21 PM

Yep!Yep!Yep! I posted this one yesterday.
daqw
Champion Author Mississippi

Posts:1,241
Points:307,255
Joined:Jul 2013
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 3:01:00 PM

K
RetiredREMF
Champion Author Louisville

Posts:2,736
Points:1,689,550
Joined:Jun 2007
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 3:00:50 PM

I wonder if "My Mother the Car" would talk to "Kit"..?
daviscw1117
Champion Author Pensacola

Posts:1,999
Points:597,535
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 3:00:12 PM

of course they do. the prices of cars will go up quite a bit and then they can track us. the people do not want the government in it.
moneyuser
Veteran Author London

Posts:340
Points:547,685
Joined:Aug 2013
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:58:34 PM

do not need more tech. in cars. cost to much, and you know the car companies will always pass the cost and more on to us. i do not want my car talking to other cars, what control will the other car have over yours???
leraar2
Champion Author Massachusetts

Posts:6,984
Points:1,562,835
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:58:04 PM

would inhibit proper passing maneuvers
such as "slingshot" passes on one lane roads.

[Edited by: leraar2 at 2/7/2014 2:56:55 PM EST]
Jb4588
Champion Author Mississippi

Posts:1,500
Points:493,150
Joined:Apr 2013
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:56:37 PM

K
PrinceLH
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:5,977
Points:1,321,520
Joined:Jun 2011
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:56:28 PM

Maybe they should learn to text each other!
oldiesman
Champion Author New York

Posts:9,449
Points:2,927,955
Joined:May 2006
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:55:38 PM

??????
tutaw
Champion Author Kentucky

Posts:6,530
Points:1,606,785
Joined:Sep 2008
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:52:57 PM

very interesting
Panama Red
Champion Author San Diego

Posts:13,108
Points:2,960,380
Joined:Jun 2004
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:50:32 PM

This sounds like a really bad idea to me.
BigDenOH
Champion Author Cincinnati

Posts:4,180
Points:1,005,600
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:50:23 PM

old
nwhawk
Champion Author Kansas

Posts:4,889
Points:1,307,150
Joined:Nov 2010
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:50:10 PM

Kit will have other cars to chat with!
caddilac
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:20,244
Points:2,921,710
Joined:Apr 2007
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:45:18 PM


The more gadgets you add to a vehicle the more there is to go wrong and cost hundreds to repair.

Then there is the added weight to decrease gas mileage.

I've been driving since I was 16, I'm now 70 and haven't had an accident in all of those years, so I don't think I need my car to tell me of a potential accident.

Drive at the posted speed, don't follow too close, and look at the road ahead (not at your texting device) and you won't need your vehicle to tell you that there could be an accident.


[Edited by: caddilac at 2/7/2014 2:45:24 PM EST]
PeteOhki
Veteran Author Honolulu

Posts:330
Points:495,170
Joined:Mar 2010
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:44:29 PM

@ WZ: Nah. From what I have read and know before, the established high-speed distance between cars was based on the drivers' reaction time. The idea of computers keeping the distance was to keep cars safely closer together at high-speeds and therefore put more cars on the road without congestion 'because' computers can reaction far more quickly than human drivers.
24RaceFan
Champion Author Saskatchewan

Posts:2,689
Points:2,433,530
Joined:Jun 2007
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:44:08 PM

How many vehicles could it track simultaneously? What about privacy issues regarding the data? Would this system be used in a court to determine guilt or innocence? What about the insurance companies using this data to determine fault? Who has access to the data? There are a lot of questions about this besides the above mentioned benefits.
ron14619
Veteran Author Rochester

Posts:281
Points:1,320,445
Joined:Sep 2006
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:35:52 PM

One more thing to take your eyes and mind off the road.
dcone2
Champion Author Los Angeles

Posts:3,091
Points:810,025
Joined:Jul 2012
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:33:21 PM

ok
wz
Champion Author Twin Cities

Posts:5,715
Points:2,059,645
Joined:Feb 2009
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:31:14 PM

If the cars are talking to each other, including location, speed and direction, then the government can listen in and issue tickets accordingly.

As for automatic braking, sometimes the way to avoid that collision is to accelerate and get out of the way. The picture shows a range of about 5 feet. The real range will need to be about 100 yards to prevent high-speed collisions, which means isolating an individual vehicle from dozens within range. Then who decides which car stops (or slows down) and which continues or accelerates?

BeeDee53
All-Star Author Ontario

Posts:609
Points:438,380
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:30:12 PM

Will they insult each other over aggressive driving?
bluetruck54
Champion Author Quad Cities

Posts:3,936
Points:981,855
Joined:Apr 2010
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:29:43 PM

Is it me or does this just sound like a disaster in the making????
wu123
Champion Author Miami

Posts:2,830
Points:1,608,905
Joined:Nov 2009
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:28:39 PM

I talk to my cars so I don't need other cars talking to my cars.
Point__man
Champion Author Raleigh

Posts:7,483
Points:1,600,525
Joined:Oct 2010
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:28:08 PM

mine already does . . . horn, screeching tires, loud mouth, etc; however, I do not drive distracted and rarely need to use my warning systems. I see the advantage for many others though and some day for me to
McMutt
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:4,533
Points:2,024,390
Joined:Nov 2007
Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 2:27:57 PM

Someone's been watching the Jetsons again.
Post a reply Back to Topics