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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2013 3:50:02 PM

In a draft report released to the public last week, the U.S. Chemical Safety Board (CSB) proposed recommendations for substantial changes to the way refineries are regulated in California. Entitled “Regulatory Report: Chevron Richmond Refinery Pipe Rupture and Fire,” the CSB draft calls on California to replace the current patchwork of largely reactive and activity-based regulations with a more rigorous, performance-based regulatory regime – similar to those successfully adopted overseas in regions such as the United Kingdom, Norway, and Australia – known as the “safety case” system.

The draft report is the second part of three in the CSB’s investigation of the August 2012 process fire in the crude unit at the Chevron refinery in...

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gasmask78
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2013 5:52:01 AM

if there was more oversight, there might not be so many fires and otherwise damaging events...
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2013 8:13:40 AM

all refineries need a safety overhaul and inspections to ensure there is no problem with the operations. Too many "accidental" events happening, shutting down refineries for several weeks or even months.
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2013 1:51:27 AM

Old News
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 6:44:42 PM

I can't believe there are so many here against more stringent regs on refineries. Yet you all scream when gas goes up because of refinery mishaps. The fire in question caused our gas prices to spike from about $3.80, to $4.66. I for one am tired of these refinery "incidents".
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 5:49:34 PM

And it means higher tax revenue.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:46:09 PM

Great, now they'll be shutting down for safety inspections every 6 months.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:44:28 PM


"Feds propose overhaul of refinery safety system in California"

"CSB draft calls on California to replace the current patchwork of largely reactive and activity-based regulations with a more rigorous, performance-based regulatory regime – similar to those successfully adopted overseas in regions such as the United Kingdom, Norway, and Australia – known as the “safety case” system."

Why just in California?

Why not overhaul refinery safety systems IN ALL STATES that have refineries????

It's just like the feds to do things in a patchwork kind of way.

[Edited by: caddilac at 12/18/2013 2:44:45 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:41:59 PM

Safety is important.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:38:53 PM

This should be done everywhere.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:33:49 PM

Why just CA?
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:30:42 PM

A lot of talk that will not see much done
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:28:49 PM

here we go another reason to increase prices
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:28:16 PM

Believe it when I see it.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:27:16 PM

Great, now they'll be shutting down for safety inspections every 6 months.
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ok
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:23:44 PM

safety first
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Interesting.
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ok
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:17:30 PM

Old news but California needs to change.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:16:09 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:15:50 PM

fat cat bureaucrats trying to get fatter
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:15:15 PM

More costs, and up at the pump.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:13:43 PM

needs 2 be a countrywide takeover on safety >>>
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:13:40 PM

a lot of talk that will not see much done
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:12:42 PM

Wonder who Odumber will appoint to lead this regulatory rewrite.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:11:28 PM

Anything the state of California can do to raise gas prices they will do it.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:10:09 PM

Is this something that is really needed, or even beneficial, or just more government meddling and over-reach? I am kind of inclined to suspect the latter.
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ok
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 2:02:22 PM

This is done as a safety measure. Since the refinery operators seen unable to run their facilities in a safe manner.
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ok
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:57:46 PM

Do it.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:55:50 PM

I hardly think we need to follow foreign countries including California and Gov. Moonbeam. We can do it better here on most anything we set our minds to.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:55:44 PM

Good
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:52:43 PM

Great, now they'll be shutting down for safety inspections every 6 months.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:52:33 PM

Safety... good.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:49:27 PM

Better yet: how about getting your act together and building some more refineries.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:48:04 PM

Badly needed
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:45:04 PM

Better late than never...
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:43:17 PM

good news
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:41:01 PM

Oh, sure....the horse is out of the barn. Let's shut the door.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:33:59 PM

good
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:33:19 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:33:10 PM

The same feds who said off-shore drilling was safe - oh wait that was the President who said that - less than 1 week before the Gulf disaster.
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Good
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:25:00 PM

Just California?
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:24:44 PM

Feds propose overhaul of refinery safety system in California. Replace the current patchwork of largely reactive and activey based regulations with a more rigorous, performance-based regulatory regime - similar to those successfully adopted overseas in regions such as the United Kingdom, Norway, and Australia - known as the 'safety case' system.
Something has to be done, there are too many refinery fires and 'accidents.' If the federal government proposes it, it will be done. Taxpayers and consumers will pay for it in the end.
Drive vehicles with high mpg, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:22:05 PM

The only thing they are going to overhaul is how to get more money.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:19:40 PM

don't need more regulations
too bad the companies can't do it by themselves
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:19:11 PM

We need new refineries… but there is no money in it.
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