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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2013 1:11:56 PM

An investigation by the AP into corn-based ethanol is drawing much attention lately: from motorists who are required to partake in the program due to the RFS law, and ethanol producers who's livelihood is at stake.

The AP's story:

The hills of southern Iowa bear the scars of America's push for green energy: The brown gashes where rain has washed away the soil. The polluted streams that dump fertilizer into the water supply.

Even the cemetery that disappeared like an apparition into a cornfield.

It wasn't supposed to be this way.

With the Iowa political caucuses on the horizon in 2007, presidential candidate Barack Obama made homegrown corn a centerpiece of his plan to slow global warming...

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rich13251
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2013 6:09:45 PM

Looks like Obama was wrong yet again !!!!!!!!!!!!
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E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2013 8:54:06 PM

wayneroad protests:

"yeah right, good trade-off: only republicans can see the sense of burning corn as fuel and eating oil as food."

Your short lesson in geo-politics. Iowa has TWO senators, just like every other state. Grassley (R) and Harkin (D). BOTH support corn into ethanol. Its about the money. Money makes the gray mare run...
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gasmask78
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2013 12:19:32 AM

Mmm, corn.
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dongo50
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2013 4:06:31 AM

ok
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rouxnthehouse
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 11:23:57 PM

Sounds to me there no getting that big oil money in there pockets so lets make a statement.
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wayneroad
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 11:20:25 PM

yeah right, good trade-off: only republicans can see the sense of burning corn as fuel and eating oil as food.
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gordotat
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 12:05:11 PM

ethanol is no good for me
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fedupp
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 6:44:03 AM

Yea and Bush signing not one but two ethanol mandates into law(2005-2007)had nothing at all to do with slowing the economy down,and neither did his and Cheney's invasion of Iraq.So vote republican for some reason?
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 5:54:02 AM

what corn production has done is drive Iowa land prices through the roof. It's putting small farmers out of business and sending large mono-corporations like Monsanto in to buy out the smaller guys.
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cnygas
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 2:54:35 PM

yeah!
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indyjim
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 10:52:23 AM

"Barack Obama made homegrown corn a centerpiece of his plan to slow global warming".................an idiotic plan. What he managed to do is slow the ECONOMY, which seems to be a calculated move.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 5:52:55 AM

and animal feed has tripled and quadrupled in the past decade in the US while 1/2 - 3/4 of all corn crop goes to other uses than corn for food (but it's still used for direct food and indirect food).
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 7:24:20 AM

dar: EtOH is made from corn, which, last I checked was used as food for humans and animals. Additionally, it's depleting the soil, which could be better used to grow less demanding crop.
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rocky23hy
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 8:08:39 AM

The ethanol industrialists have engaged in years of lying, deception, misdirection by tricksters, charlatans, and downright liars seeking wealth from government and taxpayers.

Have ye forgotten?

[Edited by: rocky23hy at 11/16/2013 8:09:33 AM EST]
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Vette1967
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 12:18:47 AM

Can't be any worse than those messy old oil fields, way back when, in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
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BleugrassBoy
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 10:51:09 AM

I live in a rural part of corn country. I'm not a farmer but several friends and neighbors are. 15-20 years ago (even 5 years ago) Ethanol was thought to be a great new market for corn growers and would help with the oil problem. But it hasn't really been necessary for corn growers as there's already a good solid market for all the corn by-products in all the processed food. So it's not really helping there. And while newer cars have been engineered to handle ethanol fuels better than cars from the 60s 70s, 80s and 90s could there's a definite tradeoff in MPG when you start diluting your oil-based fuel with ethanol. Even my farmer neighbors will admit to that.
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OldMan322
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 8:04:54 AM

"dar 1" No one wants to hear that, but its true

[Edited by: OldMan322 at 11/15/2013 8:05:37 AM EST]
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KrsnaDragon
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:53:18 AM

Old 'news'.
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fskrot
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:19:10 AM

Stop ethanol as it has had a huge effect on food costs. Three years ago a dozen ears of corn cost $3 at any summer farm stand. This year everybody was $5. Not effecting food yea right. The weather was great in our area for growing it so weather was not a factor like three years ago. ethanol sucks in my gas get it out.
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2parrots
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:11:02 AM

It`s hurting us in the pockets & our engines.Never mind the increased cost of corn means more people go hungry .
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dar 1
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:09:45 AM

All lies ethanol is not bad and doesnt use food for fuel.....
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jflabbe96
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:08:36 AM

Stop this nonsense now. Ethanol has never been a good idea, just a way to get votes in th midwest.
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chuckohio
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:08:15 AM

News Flash: Drilling, refining and using petroleum hurting the envionment...
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neptune2008
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:08:08 AM

not to mention the food supply and the engines
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bikerWI
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:05:29 AM

Ok.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:01:29 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:59:53 AM

Everything has a cause and effect.
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friday21
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:59:19 AM

How true.
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vamike
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:58:26 AM

Three days old-I thought we only got this on the weekends.
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DerTaubman
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:56:23 AM

Ethanol was never a good idea in the first place.
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AESJOBLOM4
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:55:17 AM

MORE OLD NEWS
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NJColt
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:55:00 AM

Where are the greenies on THIS!?
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4064BORI
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:54:41 AM

Old, there is also another study that reflect the real fuel cost of the ethanol. It takes more fuel to make E10 - E85 than what we actually saving if any. The ratio was 1.5 gal of gas for every 1 gal of Ethanol.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:54:37 AM

GB users are well aware
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:53:11 AM

It is so lets do away with it.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:52:33 AM

This is a must read article.
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bradbeebe52
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:52:11 AM

We get too soon old and too late smart
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smqua
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:49:25 AM

Not to mention what it's doing to the cost of corn
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OnEmpty69
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:49:18 AM

What's next, rice based ethanol? Hey congress time to pass a bill to ban ethanol, not just a cutback.
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FrankTA2
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:48:56 AM

Ethanol is just making millionaire farmers richer at the taxpayer's expense, since they are subsidized.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:48:25 AM

ethanol is bad anyway.
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gravityhurts
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:47:52 AM

We've been telling them to get rid of ethanol...just another reason to dump it.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:46:29 AM

Everbody knows it's a losing proposition yet we still have it.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:46:01 AM

Just another example of the government trying to help us, where they should not. No ethanol in gas.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:45:48 AM

no kidding
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:44:22 AM

What isnt
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Jeffro61
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:43:17 AM

I don't need a study to tell me I don't like corn based ethanol.
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roger1315
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:42:32 AM

I still don't think we need Ethanol in our fuel
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Floridaman2013
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:42:19 AM

Switch to sugarcane ethanol like Brazil. Shell oil already has switched some of it's refining according to commercials, but don't where that fuel mix is being sold. Corn is for humans to eat, not cattle or gas.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:42:00 AM


aeroeng.... EXACTLY..... Another social/political experiment gone terribly wrong!
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