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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 4:40:03 PM

The American Petroleum Institute (API) is taking its message that the federal Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) is costing consumers, The Hill reports. The ads, which are running in the Washington, D.C., area, as well as in several states, are on radio and television, plus print and online.

The “significant campaign” talks about how consumers will pay for RFS. “By mandating higher ethanol content in gasoline than is safe, it threatens American consumers, the investments they’ve made in their vehicles, and our economic well-being,” said Bob Greco, downstream director for the institute.

Biofuel groups are hitting back: “This is just more of the same from Big Oil. They will stop at nothing to maintain their near monopoly on...

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twinfanMN
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:24:20 AM

I get so tired of the mandates. Find a different way to make ethanol other than with corn. I don't know of anyone other than farmers who support food for fuel
FMREALTOR
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:21:57 AM

Ethanol ruins engines. This is a known fact! The EPA has finally realized this. Why push to E85.
merlinCO
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:13:43 AM

When the oil companies are making obscene money for the use of ethanol, I only see a smoke screen.
SteveMartin
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:09:31 AM

It is time to get rid of ethanol.
WanderDan
All-Star Author Dayton

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2013 10:53:13 PM

oh yeah - expect the tea-baggers and big oil to look out for consumers.. they both would like every organization that does that to be banned
MplsMickey
Sophomore Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 10:04:33 AM

"Costing consumers." That's good, I'm going to use that sometime when someone doesn't pay me what I want.
99dakota
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 6:57:55 AM

Less regulations, not more.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 12:02:41 AM

silver: guess who pays a lawsuit against the government?
silvereb
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 7:26:41 AM

More ethanol in our fuel lowers
MPG in vehicles. If the 15% law
does go into effect the government
should be responsible for damages
caused by it!
Me thinks class action lawsuit.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 6:06:02 AM

cehollis: you probably already are pumping 15 or more % EtOH. Best thing is to get a product that helps mitigate the EtOH.

Yes, I know, it's produced by Pig Oil, to counteract a product that they put into the fuel in the first place. Can make ya go crazy, eh?
gd83goldwinger
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 12:59:41 AM

Big oil wines but they get kick backs for mixing it. They just want to complain to keep fuel costs up at the pump. Common sense on the consumer to know what they pump in there cars.
cehollis
Rookie Author Dallas

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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2013 10:30:51 AM

My vehicles are rated for E-10 gasoline or lower. So, regardless of all the propaganda from either side of this issue, if E-15 or higher gasoline are my only options in the future, my vehicles will be damaged.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2013 6:54:24 AM

DustyHorse: in part b/c it's not just 10% EtOH. Everyone in the supply chain adds some EtOH to the mix to stretch profits. In the end, it's a lot more than 10%.
rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 6:57:14 PM

GBFWB72 ethanol subsidies were cut some time back. BIG OIL receives billions in subsidies, tax breaks, deferrals etc. If gasoline is so great, why can't it survive in the marketplace without them?
GBFWB72
Sophomore Author Florida

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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 10:17:38 AM

If corn ehtanol is so good, why do we the taxpayer have to support it with subsidies? And it also raises the cost of our food corn in the process too, along with raising the price of everythign since it makes fuel cost more to deliver everything.

Let ethanol survive on its own without subsidies. Then give me th echoice of what I want to buy at the pump based on the supply and demand of the free market and consumer choice, not what some politicians think is best for me!
fedupp
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 8:23:30 PM

the code was broken long ago its called hemp it makes ethanol,methanol and biodiesel that runs better than diesel with no sulfur-it is grown with no insecticides herbicides fertilizer,it grows in bad soil and low water conditions.The problem? It makes way too much sense and big oil & big chemical companies hate it(read A little history on it-our government loves it during war)it also has at least 40,000 other uses.
Donatelo
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 5:23:35 PM

ethanol comes from food products, and until they break the cellulose code and get a greater yield of ethanol from crops, I think limited food for fuel is a good idea.
mac007
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 12:03:43 PM

Henry Ford designed his cars to run on Gasoline or ethanol. It is big oil and API that now has the engine manufacturers making it so they can run on straight ethanol.
DarthDadJr
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 11:12:40 AM

No surpise...the oil company lobby group doesn't support higher ethanol levels in gas...I would be surprised if they didn't come out with a campaign against this change. They aren't looking out for the consumer...they are only interested in what is best for the oil industry, which is to keep demand for oil high.
williamcabot
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:55:19 AM

Another reason to raise gasoline prices.
F81M
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:42:26 AM

Facts haven't changed on this story since Friday! At least it could be updated.
trombo31
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:39:04 AM

Kill the RFS!
wilsmoke
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:30:38 AM

old
NashGas
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:30:36 AM

Need to end corporate welfare!
walkit1
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:29:10 AM

Corn gas worst product ever foisted on the American public. Like extending your fuel with water that will burn.
Wolfwings
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:28:26 AM

ANY ethanol is WAY OO MUCH ethanol.
donny47
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:28:08 AM

old
Buffalo Joe
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:27:44 AM

More politics.
BudsterMO
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:27:18 AM

Corn is for feeding people and animals, not gasoline. If the current RFS requirements remain, then the blenders should buy sugar cain ethanol which is 45% less expensive than corn ethanol and pass the reduction on to customers.
Lologogo
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:26:55 AM

we should make the oil companies pay for the subsides :O)
GorillaMN
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:26:39 AM

Corn is better used as feed than fuel
WGW1
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:23:35 AM

spin doctors on both sides.
bigsranch
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:22:56 AM

ok
THEDodgeman
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:22:56 AM

big deal
jdances
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:22:34 AM

not only our car`s but our lawnmower`s,weedwacker`s, ect. tell you no more than 10% ethanol can be used in them.
satinsilver
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:21:51 AM

sounds corny.
Boilermat
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:21:07 AM

ethanol should be banned.
truckpdlr
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:18:40 AM

On big oils side for a change
eye-spy
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:18:35 AM

Get rid of ethanol.
yeehaw1073
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:18:32 AM

old post
nskmda
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:18:24 AM

get rid of ethanol in my gas...
EVBuddy
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:17:49 AM

OK
INBwana
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:16:37 AM




Got any new news to post.
BlueVanGroup
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:13:58 AM


Why would progressive politicians care what happens to the peasants?

We're supposed to be riding buses instead, anyway.
checkitnow
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:13:53 AM

get ethanol out of gasoline
Goatroper47
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:13:44 AM

A bunch of know nothing morons telling everyone how to live!!!!
CTarp
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:12:25 AM

Battle
lewpuckett
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:11:19 AM

really
WmHalliday
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:10:23 AM

This story has grandchildren.
Bill100
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:10:00 AM

Is this really still here?
kpacey
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:08:58 AM

old news
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