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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2013 2:34:39 PM

A new study from the American Clean Skies Foundation (ACSF) finds that a transition to natural gas-fueled heavy duty and light duty vehicles over the next decade will have a minimal impact on natural gas prices, according to a press release.

The report, “Driving on Natural Gas: Fuel Price and Demand Scenarios for Natural Gas Vehicles to 2025,” used three scenarios to calculate potential natural gas demand and price impacts attributable to natural gas vehicles (NGVs).

“We found that the estimated level of natural gas demand from NGVs, even under the most optimistic scenario, accounted for only about 2 percent of the overall market by 2025,” said Gregory C. Staple, ACSF’s CEO and co-author of the report. “And the incremental...

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Donatelo
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2013 12:08:38 AM

all diesel engines should run on cng now. it is an easy engine conversion, and we know where all the truck stops are, and we have huge natural gas reserves.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2013 11:37:38 PM

natural gas has downsides too,... do some research
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2013 5:21:10 PM

all diesel engines should be ran on cng.
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lyanMI
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2013 1:30:40 PM

US has large NG reserves
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garynga
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2013 8:35:00 AM

there are benefits to using NG. insure safety issue and lets move on to using good ole USA resources ........
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99dakota
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2013 6:49:54 AM

I'll stick with gasoline for now.
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priver
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 9:25:23 PM

and if it does.. oh well! suckers!!
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99dakota
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2013 6:42:17 PM

Maybe not right away...
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Vette1967
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2013 12:26:52 AM

I'm not so sure.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 11:39:02 PM

gotta do some research into natural gas
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priver
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 7:57:50 PM

thats a promise...
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mdcsgt
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 4:48:10 PM

I think natural gas would be the way to go!
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 10:17:45 PM

Wow, a voice of reason. Thanks, Hobby001.
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Hobby001
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 3:18:10 PM

Convert all residential and commercial buildings heating from petroleum distillates to natural gas and save the petroleum distillates for motor vehicles. Tne natural gas use in stationary uses is much safer than requiring ASTM pressure vessels as vehicle fuel tanks.
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 2:06:39 PM

Natural gas is our best hope of owning our own energy future. we have enough nat gas reserves , that we know of , to power us for 100 years, why would we not use our own energy source to keep those jobs and profits here.
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 1:02:37 AM

chicken and egg... not enough NG stations, b/c there isn't enough demand.

The minute demand rises, the prices for NG go up too, though.
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:54:33 AM

OTOH, there aren't too many diesels around in the US, compared to, let's say Europe. Most are semi-trucks and most won't switch to NG.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:50:12 AM

the way you stated it was to put NG into diesel engines. not everyone knows that they can be converted.
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 9:06:21 AM

All diesel engine can run on natural gas with an easy conversion, and it is our energy source.
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 8:19:49 AM

yeah rite...wait for it...
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 8:16:46 AM

Interesting.
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2013 8:01:42 AM

All diesel trucks should be ran on natural gas, we have plenty of it, and converting a diesel engine to propane(natural gas) is a fairly easy process.
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snappytom2
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 6:22:05 PM

Demand has nothing to do with the price of energy. Speculators set the price of energy.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 5:22:49 PM

Don't beleive it. Demand goes up they will charge more
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 3:56:51 PM

we've got plenty of natural gas, go for it
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 3:02:44 PM

Not enough vehicles to choose from and too little infrastructure to make them practical. What will really cause a spike in prices is if all the coal power plants convert over to natural gas. Then prices will go through the roof.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:57:09 PM

Right on jpj23!
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:51:55 PM

There's not enough infrastructure (i.e., CNG filling stations) to encourage many people to buy CNG cars.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:31:03 PM

I wait till we get to hydrogen!!!!!!!!!
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Dale Jag
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:12:17 PM

But it would probably put a big dent in gasoline/diesel/oil prices.

Solar here, windmills now!
The future is in alternative energy not OIL.
Support the Picken's Plan NOW!
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:09:29 PM

Hope not.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:08:02 PM

No, actual demand won't drive up prices much - but it's a good bet that commodity speculation will.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:03:49 PM

this is good business opportunity
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marsbars
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:02:54 PM

Not now, but it will eventually cause prices to be higher.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:02:29 PM

Bring on the CNG-fueled vehicles...
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:02:22 PM

sure it wont.. remember when propane started to be popular in vehicles?
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:00:43 PM

It will
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:00:06 PM

Would drive a NG car in a heart beat.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:59:02 PM

it matters how many
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bell013
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:58:00 PM

Old news.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:55:27 PM

won't own one
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:55:09 PM

We need more CNG cars now!
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Liv43kids
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:54:22 PM

Lets wait & see
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:53:56 PM

and the tooth fairy lives
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:53:21 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:52:24 PM

Good...roll out the infrastructure and vehicles!
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:50:42 PM

Another opinion based on speculation.
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trombo31
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:49:58 PM

This report probably totally on the premise that it will never happen.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:49:44 PM

Hmm. I think we'll have to wait to see if this prediction is accurate. Seems like it would result in higher prices.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:47:20 PM

It take a lot of vehicle to effect supply, we talking 10 years, curve of ramping up maybe 20 years.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:44:27 PM

BS, I wouldn't believe this at all!
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