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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2012 12:35:57 PM

"Grade Gap" is the term I've dubbed to explain the gap in price between regular gasoline and other higher octane gasoline- mid-grade and premium. A decade or so ago, the "grade gap" might have been 7-8 cents per gallon (mid-grade 7-8c/gal more than regular, and premium 7-8c/gal more than mid-grade), but my oh my how things have changed.

If you've been driving a car that requires premium fuel, you've likely noticed- I know I have. Only a few stations now sell premium for 20c/gal more than regular. If you're lucky, you might find the grade gap single digits (premium 9c/gal higher than mid-grade, etc.) but nowadays its becoming very hard to find it. Generally, higher end or performance vehicles require premium to function as intended...

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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 8:27:29 PM

honda0105 said: "nice big tank, Ducati!"

Or, in other words..."tanks a lot, Ducati!"
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tom43FL
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2015 10:57:35 AM

Always out for the buck.
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JOHNJOEYJOE
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2015 6:30:22 AM

Average here is 20 cents per gallon difference.
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Yetie
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 11:41:47 AM

Unfortunately they get us going and coming
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phpearso
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2015 1:12:48 AM

a Phillips 66 station near me has $.30 cents a gallon difference between grades!

Talk about GREED!
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gasmask78
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2015 1:01:38 AM

Unless you're driving an old car, (150k+), a Mercedes, Audi...or the engine pings while driving down the highway it is unnecessary to use high-grade gasoline.
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clpassenubye
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2015 1:35:35 AM

Yes it's all true
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monkay619
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2015 8:01:10 AM

Can we expect the grade gap to diminish any time soon? Now that the cost of regular has gone down, are more people buying premium again, because they think it is better?
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gougenator
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 11:53:30 PM

grade gap is 50 cents at our chronic gouger in n. dallas
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 5:54:44 AM

nice big tank, Ducati!
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DucatiRider
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 11:16:18 AM

My newest motorcycle gets about 50-65 MPG and can run on regular. That's one of the reasons I got it. It also has a 5 gallon tank, which is HUGE for a motorcycle.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 6:05:09 AM

swep: wow. That's about how much there is between regular gas and diesel around here.
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swepson
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 9:45:51 AM

Saw a new high for me. Regular, $3.49 Premium $ 4.09 Gap .60
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 7:11:50 AM

never looked back and never had issues. Last car got sold, less than a year later it was totalled. It had 145k+ miles and was 13+ years old. Current is 7+ yrs old.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 9:55:59 AM

when I bought my last two cars, I was told, even though the book recommends 89, for the Southern regions, use 87 only or it will run way too rich.

My other vehicle... well, never have to worry on that b/c there's only one diesel grade.
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:05:44 PM

Long as your car does not ping or knock on regular gas , you should use regular.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:42:26 AM

have never bought premium fuels. Don't care too. Lots of hype by Pig Oil.
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99dakota
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:16:33 AM

Knowing this determines what cars you want to buy...
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dcone2
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:12:06 PM

ok
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hpmossii
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 9:30:54 PM

Some stations promote the price of their regular gas, hoping that consumers who need premium don't notice the larger grade gap to the mid and premium blends.
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WE0H
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 1:42:48 PM

EZ fix for that price gouging. Blend E85 which is 105 octane with regular 87 gas to whatever blend you need to get the required octane level. Do some tests and you'll find that many stations selling 92 octane gas are really selling E30 which is 92 octane.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:59:16 AM

ok
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truvoice1
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 5:39:03 AM

Many expensive European autos demand premium fuel as well as most American and Asian performance cars. Its not surprising that some stations would try to take advantage of the pricing gap to make a few more pennies per gallon.
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dcone2
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 12:25:34 AM

ok
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gasokie
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 6:18:37 PM

I am seeing some stations now that have pumps with 4 grades...just putting one grade (87) out there and putting it on each button. One of those stations, I noticed last week, had 5 selections and two kinds of gas. Pure gas and 87 octane 10%. Sort of strange I got rid of my premium buring car last year for this very reason. It was a pain to pull off a tollway or interstate in heavy traffic and wait on a pump and find there is no premium..
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 5:54:56 AM

always been buying 87 grade here in the South. Much better burning than 93.
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audiofon
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 6:06:04 AM

i've been seeing the price gap as much at 70c/gal from regular to premium. Not to happy. just glad i only have to fill up every 7-10 days.
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hmw10284
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 4:14:15 PM

I used to work at gas stations in HS where 91 octane was regular gas.
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76Fury
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 3:15:57 PM

Here in Vancouver Canada the gap between regular (87) and premium (91) is 13 cents a liter or about 50 cents a US gallon...that's typical for most of Canada.
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zeusboy
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 8:54:54 AM

Yes, this is really bad news for me. I drive a Mini Cooper S which requires premium, and it's no where near the end it's life span. The one station near me that used to keep the .10 grade gaps has now the same .15 gaps as most of the others here, now. :(
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DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 12:10:11 AM

20 cent difference between reg and premium is rare around here. 35 to 40 cents is more the norm.
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 12:05:43 AM

right now at my station, 20 cents and 25 cents between grades!
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 12:05:09 AM

crooks! I remember 2 cents between grades. 31, 33 & 35!
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dcone2
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 9:02:25 PM

ok
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LeftLane1
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 5:57:38 PM

My other 3 do not, but I really enjoy my one that does...
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dockersbin
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:38:04 PM

all 3 of my vehicles do not require premium. And I will make sure that I never have a car that does.
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LeftLane1
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:20:27 PM

I have one vehicle that demands Premium Octane fuel (Manufacturer stated to properly operate, it is considered a High Performance Brand as well) Not that it is particularly cleaner fuel, but the minimum octane requirement is 92.

In my area, The Common pricing has each Grade .15 Apart, so 3.50, 3.65, 3.80 for example, So Premium is USUALLY .30 CENTS or MORE than REGULAR.

I almost never see better than .30 Cents, many "Gouger" Stations may have it much more commonly, Diesel also elevated.

It must be PURE PROFIT...
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bell05
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:16:34 PM

Number 1 reason I won't buy a car that takes premium.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:56:10 PM

ok
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tomok
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:12:22 PM

"Grade Gap" widens as consumption of premium drops! Between Regular and Premium grades, at some Chevron stations and one Shell station it can be 30 cents/gallon difference.
XII/XXII/MMXII!
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boldrph
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:38:42 PM

how stale is this?
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red82mtu
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:36:30 PM

I've seen 15 cents a grade locally.
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McMutt
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:26:52 PM

It total amazes me that a Smart and a Fiat would require premium fuel, but they do.
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radiorumor
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:19:40 PM

Works great in my lawnmower
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:14:32 PM

If you can afford a vehicle that requires premium, you can afford a few extra cents per gallon. Don't like it, buy a vehicle that runs on 87 next time.
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nemoFL
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:13:57 PM

if you can afford it use it
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QuagmireLA
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:13:49 PM

Hadn't been paying that much attention to the price gap, but will watch out for it now.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:13:38 PM

if you are foolish enough to buy a vehicles that requires premium, you don't mind paying the extra 30 cents a gallon.
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georged12
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:13:34 PM

Why is diesel so expensive???
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hunterruss
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:12:52 PM

Did MPG stats with both. Premium does not justify the extra expense in my vehicle.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:12:39 PM

agreed.
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