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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:47:21 PM

Gasoline prices have started to fall. Based on what some of our Facebook fans are saying on GasBuddy's fan page, many believe it's because the election. Really? There apparently is still the myth out there that gas prices react or drop ahead of an election. Gas prices usually do drop, yes, but it has nothing to do with the election.

First off, what are major factors that influence gasoline prices? Well, among the two largest, there is supply, and there is demand. Both of those two have a large bearing on gasoline prices. Without supply, gas prices are sky high. Without demand, gas prices are slashed. So why then do prices always fall into autumn and why does this have nothing to do with the election?

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KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 7:42:01 PM

no
Houckster
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 1:05:36 PM

You overstate your case considerably. While it used to be true that gas prices would fall after Labor Day, they don't do that as much anymore. More important considerations are 1) Refiners are more able to reduce production, within limits, to match demand; 2) political conditions in the middle East; 3) domestic political considerations such as the "fiscal cliff" or a candidate offering different policies can definitely affect prices, and 4) Americans are reducing discretionary driving.

Using the national average gas price published by the EPA shows that on frequent occasions since 2004, the gas price has often been higher that it was on or near Labor Day. In several years, the prices even near the Christmas period were higher.

The time of year is no longer an adequate predictor of what prices we will pay.
skidsteer85xt
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 12:19:29 AM

no
Donatelo
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 3:18:47 PM

ok
4wheel
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:34:55 AM

It happens every election!
dockersbin
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 4:23:15 PM

Give the "Speculators" a new job!
DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 4:16:12 PM

Anyone who finds this "absurd" needs to pull up a 5 year chart. It happened in '08, it' happened in '00, and it happened again in '96. There IS a correlation as oil speculators pull money off the table after the election.
baddog58
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 8:30:07 AM

I have never seen any correlation!
Donatelo
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 11:07:35 AM

ok
Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:18:00 PM

Really?
bady777
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:12:08 AM

It's possible.
benjy
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 12:38:57 PM

only haters and idiots think so... oh they're the same thing...
honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 5:50:31 AM

miller: lol. Good observation :)
MrLefty0706
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 12:48:55 AM

Eliminate the speculators and the oil prices will stabilize at a lower level.
millertw
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 8:48:57 PM

Weird how the last debate discussed oil prices. Gas dropped the next day.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 5:54:27 AM

amen, wrmedic.

And ethanol changes if someone in China sneezes....
wrmedic
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 11:21:58 AM

Heck they are all connected. Why does price of corn go down in Nebraska when it rains in Chicago. It all has to do with speculators.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 6:07:13 AM

economy is not going to recover w/ diesel still at $4 / gal. Doesn't matter who gets elected.
dockersbin
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 10:06:03 AM

Only time will tell but might as well enjoy it while its low!
gasokie
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 8:44:34 AM

Then all we gotta do is wait 'till Wednesday?
honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 7:12:26 AM

some prices here dropping down to about 3.20 and a little lower. Can't wait to pay 2.xx rather than 3.xx for gas.

now.. if diesel would drop... sigh. 3.99 everywhere here.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 9:54:52 AM

Nonoy: the rest of country is falling. You, in LongIsland, have other reasons.
NonoyLawsi
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 8:41:18 PM

i'm not sure they're connected... although it pretty much increases slowly
Donatelo
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 1:01:52 PM

Just the facts please. Conversion to winter gas is completed, and usually allows for price drops.
RapMassaG
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 9:29:24 AM

If they WERE connected, ours would not have jumped 50 cents/gallon last weekend.
trugasCA
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 9:26:20 AM

Always go down after summer travel is over
honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:41:59 AM

just odd that the prices drop rather nicely before the elections, isn't it?
TOOMUCH
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:14:40 AM

It's possible.
cookieluver
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:10:32 AM

It seems as everything have to do with politics.
dcone2
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 12:25:56 AM

ok
gasokie
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 6:12:20 PM

Some believe that "All Things" are pre-ordained somehow by politicians.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 5:41:16 AM

kp: the author is Patrick DeHaan, one of the GB gods and media darling.
TTQuattro
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2012 12:19:25 AM

maybe if we stop with the wars
kp2933
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 2:29:21 PM

Whoever wrote this article should've taken a look at the 8 historical chart for gas prices on the gasbuddy website! Get a clue!
kp2933
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 2:28:29 PM

Hello?
honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:02:03 AM

Kar: yea... Econ 101 ... just doesn't apply to gas and diesel.
KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 7:36:36 PM

Sure -- supply and demand. A crock.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 9:20:42 AM

funny how short a memory exists in the GB gods' world.
Ray_10589
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 9:14:04 AM

definitely connected!
gasokie
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 11:57:06 PM

Lots of people believe that everything including gas prices are manipulated by some secret "they" committee someplace, somehow and "they" set the price of biscuits, gasoline and taxes from their secret meeting place someplace or other. "They" also determine their kids grades, car prices and everything else. So where does this guy -- this moderator fellow-- get off trying to sneak in some logic.
csblesson
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 11:35:40 PM

It is definitely connected!
remay
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 8:11:08 PM

Okay, then, its completely coincidental.
Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:04:13 PM

I certainly hope not.
DanMtz
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 3:51:08 PM

Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory.
Lobsters11
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 1:00:08 PM

duh!
KhelbenArunson
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 7:03:21 PM

Unfortunately yest they are.
PCWHIZ
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 6:34:28 PM

Yes, absurd!
tomok
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 4:32:22 PM

Elections and gas prices connected? Absurd!
But, Maybe...... Just Maybe.............
Supply down, fuel prices up. Demand down, fuel prices up. A fire here, some refinery maintenance there. A refinery shut down over there. Close a refinery here to reduce expenses, less fuel produced. An airline company buys a refinery to try to control their fuel prices. Big Oil and Big Gas exports fuel and natural gas to other countries for higher prices and profits, less supply here. All at the whim of Big Oil. Less federal oil drilling permits issued, restricitions on oil drilling in the Gulf after the BIG Gulf spill. Some EPA policies are out of control. Fred takes over and fuel prices are much much higher than four years earlier. There is NO reason why fuel prices should change so much or be so high! And the plot thickens!
What will gasss prices be after the November election, wait and see for that one! Hmmm.....
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The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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Calm down rx7............
rx7racerca
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 3:51:01 PM

Wow, do people even bother to read the article, or just go ahead and post their tripe anyway? Elections don't change gas prices. Nor do politicians, from the President down, have much influence one way or another - it's a global market, the US is a huge importer, world prices are the biggest determinant by far of gas prices. Give your heads a shake.
ItsMorph
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 3:21:08 PM

Well, O'Bama wants to be re-elected, so they'll go down just long enough to be cheap on election day.
Holly123
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 3:04:39 PM

There is a rat .....
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