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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 10:42:36 AM

When we watch gasoline prices climb steadily higher some of us are stunned when we see how high diesel is going. The U.S. average today for unleaded regular gas is $3.68 per gallon and for diesel it's $4.06. It makes a lot of people ask why diesel is so high.

Back in 2008 when we saw the national average for regular gasoline hit a record of $4.12 per gallon, diesel hit a record too, $4.85 per gallon... both of those records are likely to be broken this year.

Diesel fuels most of the country's buses, trucks, trains and farm equipment. According to a new report produced by National Asssociation of Convenience Stores, diesel is powering an increasing number of passenger vehicles in the U.S. and abroad and there was...

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kishoreCA
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 11:43:57 AM

ok
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ZZZoop
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2013 6:26:57 PM

60 cent premium for diesel here in northern VA.
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JMW1942
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2013 6:27:39 AM

you figure it out, I can't
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optionstrader
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2013 1:07:56 PM

It's $0.42/gallon higher for diesel where I live now. Makes no sense! We'll never get diesel saturation for passenger cars as long as these policies are in place.
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dongo50
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 12:25:02 AM

u r all stupid and that is y u will pay whatever they ask u2 pay..2k, do u know what that means? i dont care either.. as long as welfare text deleted
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agrico
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 7:36:48 PM

bring on natural gas
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46chief
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 5:38:51 PM

I'm glad I don't drive a diesel!
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SFRangerSniper
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2013 1:32:02 PM

The article is right. We in the US do not demand diesel fuel and EPA clean air requirements require ULSD. Therefore the people who do use the fuel must pay for the technology, thus higher prices. Simple marketing. The more you sell the less the technology cost.
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2013 10:38:43 AM

MDR46 asks: Not good. Why does the gov. tax diesel more than gas?
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One reason is that the vehicles using diesel are larger and put more stress on the roads.
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mdr46
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2013 8:31:47 AM

Not good. Why does the gov. tax diesel more than gas?
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Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2013 11:54:28 PM

Oh my.
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MichaelJFS
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2013 4:50:33 PM

So...
... diesel costs more because of 4 factors , that...
... once THOSE factors are "corrected" ...
... diesel will cost MORE !!!

Attn Speculators: go after diesel... leave our gasoline alone.
:o(
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2013 1:48:42 PM

Interesting...
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Retired-Coastie
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 10:28:27 AM

The US talks about energy independence, yet the oil we do produce is shipped over seas, the CNG is there yet without the infrastructure and filling stations you can't get the public to buy into spending big buck for a truck that runs diesel or CNG.
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2013 10:47:30 AM

Not a very convincing explanation!!!
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priver
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 11:27:09 AM

ok.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:35:08 PM

because they want it to.. easier to pass costs on to consumers indirectly
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timewalker
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:01:58 AM

And this is pertinent to those affected. Nice to know, though.
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Vette1967
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:33:09 AM

I literally don't buy it.
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nvwarped
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:09:20 AM

just great....our gov't is at it again. the American people get screwed each time.
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 9:04:50 PM

Again, our government in action. About 16 cents of the cost of a gal of diesel is due to government intervention...10 cents by the EPA I can understand; the other 6 cents penalizing diesel users just because there were fewer of them than gasoline users.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2013 8:46:29 AM

I just know that diesel stinks and pollutes the air. Natural gas is the way as LA did all their Transit Buses. !!
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:04:34 AM

I'll stick with gas...
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 9:13:06 AM

For those that say they don't care, think about prices at the grocery store, in part owing to high diesel prices.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:19:50 AM

idk
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Tommyguns45
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2013 8:43:21 AM

The EPA needs to mandate the gas stations also install a CNG pump since the US has trillions of feet of it. Hats off to LA that converted all their city buses to natural gas.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 10:06:41 AM

In eight years of the Bush Admin, gas prices topped $3.gal for 4 MONTHS and the media and Obama blasted him.

Now we have $3/gal OR MORE for 4 YEARS and no one says anything.

Why was Bush portrayed so bad and why Obama is portrayed so good?
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dongo50
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2013 12:43:06 AM

it is priced that way to keep prices of everything else up. diesel is actually cheaper to produce. most everything is trucked, diesel, if you can't figure it out your as stupid as our government wants you to be.
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ham4fun
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 10:57:18 PM

YOu can also convert a gas car to CNG. I was looking at CNG but the lack of stations nixed that idea. There were only two close to my commute and would add 10 miles to the already long 70 mile per day. Then the closest station went out of business. Yes, Diesel can run on CNG too but ROI is quite lengthy.
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2013 11:29:07 AM

all diesel engines can run on cng , with an easy conversion on the engines, and we have huge natural gas reserves. we should demand our leaders take steps to energy independence. some people just like to complain but offer no solutions, but we have plenty of energy right here, if we just used a little innovation.
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2013 10:24:51 AM

ummm because semi's use it????
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 10:44:35 PM

Do we really not have the technology to convert all mechanical devices including commercial vehicles to run off of 1 major fuel type.
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 11:37:39 AM

Good to know.
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 9:17:53 AM

That's businesses deal so be aware
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 8:15:19 AM

I'll stick with gas
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 11:15:41 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 7:23:15 AM

OK
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ok
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2013 11:20:11 AM

Okay
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2013 3:19:29 PM

Government lives on opportunities to tax.
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2013 1:37:38 PM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 1:24:26 AM

On May 28, 2013 5:55:31 AM, Donatelo wrote:

>I will post it again

You're getting monotonous.

>diesel engines can be converted to natural gas.

And after the cost of converting the Diesel engines, you have the cost of building out the natural gas distribution infrastructure.

IMHO, it makes more sense to do like they do in the rest of the world where they have huge natural gas reserves and convert it to liquid transportation fuel? That way, the number of things that have to change are minimized.

You don't invest in a distributed infrastructure when a centralized infrastructure will do the job as well or better. Fewer points of failure in a centralized infrastructure. Process problems can be managed by appropriate redundant capacity in the system but that is not free. Nobody will be willing to build redundant capacity outside of a regulated environment. That's the reason the lights usually stay on unless there's a storm outside, and if they put a lot of the lines underground that helps a lot.

>we have huge natural gas reserves. that would save one third of the oil we use, and it would be
>our own energy resource.

Don't expect natural gas to be any cheaper once everyone starts using it. Pricing for energy trends toward equal pricing for equal sources of energy.
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 8:00:37 PM

well why not?
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 1:42:46 AM

Okay...
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 10:17:02 AM

wow
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priver
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 10:29:54 PM

because they can..
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 6:55:31 AM

I will post it again, diesel engines can be converted to natural gas. we have huge natural gas reserves. that would save one third of the oil we use, and it would be our own energy resource.
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 3:47:31 PM

Gas prices are still to high.
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 9:01:19 AM

all diesel engines should be converted to natural gas, it is a fairly easy conversion, and we have huge natural gas reserves.
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priver
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 10:02:53 PM

60K for a new truck.. what's a tank of fuel??
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