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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 12:04:23 AM

Is it the weather, something about the long winter, perhaps, that this spring has lawnmowers sputtering and dying across Southwest Michigan?

Nope. Blame it on the gas.

Paul Stermer on Westnedge Hill in Kalamazoo said his 9-year-old mower died, mid lawn, and then the mower he borrowed from his neighbor to finish the job did the same. It was when he borrowed a third neighbor's, and that one conked out, too, that he took his questions to Facebook and learned that gasoline was the likely culprit.

Chainsaws, boat motors and other small engines are vulnerable, too, it seems.

The culprit?

Ethanol.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2014 3:10:56 PM

The only way to effectively neutralize the ethanol in gasoline is to put is a settling tank with water, the water and ethanol will mix and settle to the bottom then drain off the gasoline.

The amount of water is not critical as long as it is enough to absorb the alcohol, slosh it around a bit and leave it over night, the gasoline will be floating on top of the water the next day and there will be a sharp stratification between the two. Use a transparent container and it is easy to drain off the water from the bottom or syphon off the gas from the top.
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ep3guy
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2014 5:57:43 AM

Ok
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2014 6:59:36 AM

just add ethanol neutralizing substance to the fuel. Works well for me.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 11:06:54 PM

 


[Edited by: jrsva at 6/16/2014 11:07:42 PM EST]
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geoutpb
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 9:48:22 PM

Ethanol
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KatyMum
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 2:43:48 PM

Will pass this to my G.M. and Ford research retired Dad with 50+ years experience in creating fuels and exhaust emissions...finally retired at 76 years old. And my son who can fix any vehicle, tractor, lawnmower, chainsaw, etc.
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cssco
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 2:16:49 PM

Like they say at that computer repair place... Garbage In, Garbage Out.
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ss70
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 1:34:00 PM

side effect are is toomuch for ethanol
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studebaker1940
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 4:53:33 AM

and thats why congress gets stalled so often, consuming ethanol
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SRcyclist
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 1:22:07 AM

Nothing new
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bowler360
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:16:48 AM

Stop the ethanol mandate.

It is costing all of us!
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:13:11 AM

“[S]witch to a premium gas!”

That will NOT help. Premium gas is higher octane but it still contains ethanol at most stations. If premium is E-free then, by all means, use it.
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Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:10:09 AM

I use ethanol-free gasoline in all of my small engines, including in my Ninja motorcycle.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:10:07 AM

The general public is still dumb about the problems with ethanol but I doubt that many GB members were surprised by this article. Ethanol-free gas is available in more areas than most folks realize. It is usually higher priced than E10 but not usually as much higher as in this article. I have five vehicles and ten small engines; none have ever been contaminated with ethanol.
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steeve_13
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:08:43 AM

only reason we're using the crap is due to corn subsidies
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winks44
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:07:09 AM

Nothing good about ethanol.
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yakstar
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:04:42 AM

switch to a premium gas!
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bridgerunner
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:04:31 AM

I've experienced this on my mowers.
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ChuckW1
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:03:52 AM

Time to stop paying the corn farmers all that money and let them sell real corn to people and animals that can eat it!
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obimerrill
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:03:47 AM

Bad stuff
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My08Ram
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:03:18 AM

Ok
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BoerneWatch
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:02:49 AM

It is ethanol and everything it was supposed to make better has come to be worse. Everything.

Not only does gas cost more because of it, it has less kick and you get fewer mpg because of it.

It does not make a smaller carbon foot print and in fact, makes a bigger one.

As for the environment? More land has been cleared to plant corn and more land has had the weed killer sprayed upon it as it also has had chemical fertilizers cast upon it and genetically modified corn grown on it.

The list continues.

Who is going to vote against any politician that supports or supported it?

I'll donate my hard earned money to those who will fight to get rid of it.
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jrschl
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:02:04 AM

I just want to see more options without ethanol. I am tired of people being in everyone's pocket and the political games going one with the consumers.
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bolobill
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:01:37 AM

ok
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Methodist
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2014 12:00:57 AM

k
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greenfog
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:59:28 PM

this has been known for a long time and they are just now reporting on it?
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dad2two
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:58:32 PM

Ethanol is hurting the small engines.
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goldrose1
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:55:51 PM

Why are we making it hard on these small engines?
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Robert44
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:53:24 PM

End the mandate on Ethanol NOW!!!
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:50:27 PM


Poor maintenance by the owners who are too lazy to remove the gas from their lawn mowers at the end of the mowing season. All the makers advise removal of gasoline from the tank and also running the engine until it conks out to get all the gas out of the carb.
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sdslim
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:49:48 PM

Time to eliminate ethanol.
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ttfn5tigger
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:49:02 PM

ok
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gta_guy
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:48:11 PM

Would be great to have the choice!
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Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:44:14 PM

Most who can use ethanol free, in these types of engines and generators.
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wshokie12
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:42:38 PM

At least carburetor companies like ethanol.
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CartelBuster
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:40:46 PM

Government: "We just want to HELP you!"
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P_I_STONE
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:37:05 PM

Egads!!!
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clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:35:11 PM

Are there additives to reduce the ethanol effects? Do they work?

I've not had any problems yet. Ethanol is not anything new in our area. It's been all that is available for probably 10 years.

Is this something new in some areas? Michigan?
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X5driver13
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:34:53 PM

Time to try a Class Action lawsuit?
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GenChick
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:34:07 PM

No more ethanol blend gasoline!!!!
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torch7
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:33:46 PM

YEP.!!!
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91Explorer
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:30:04 PM

bad gas, yup old story!
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BMWer
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:29:04 PM

Corn is food not fuel
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:27:15 PM

Bad.
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Steveshonda
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:26:11 PM

Yep
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BREW9
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:26:04 PM

engine killer
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flyfast
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:25:37 PM

ethanol need to be ban
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MG_Sputnik
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:25:07 PM

We're all doomed!
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lazyeye1
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:22:43 PM

Ok
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OmieCA
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:20:41 PM

Times are changing, folks... It used to be your lawn mower ain't starting, you took that thing apart and left it in a state of disarray, there was no bringing it back to life and so it was time to buy another one. Nowadays...

"It was when he borrowed a third neighbor's, and that one conked out, too, that he took his questions to Facebook and learned that gasoline was the likely culprit."

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Taurus1
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:17:13 PM

I buy higher test.
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