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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 10:40:15 PM

Elon Musk announced Thursday that Tesla would open up its patents for fair use.

Among other things, he said a company's relying on patents for revenue is a sign of weakness, and he slammed the state of patent controls in America.

Hidden among the patents announcement was Musk's comments on automakers' use of fuel cells, which use the reaction from combining hydrogen with oxygen to generate electricity.

"I don't think fuel cells are a viable path," he said. "Even the best theoretical fuel cell doesn't compete with batteries. It doesn't seem like the right move."

This is a weighty statement to make. Confronted with rising costs and flagging sales, major automakers have been ramping up fuel cell production while winding down their battery-powered vehicles. Chrysler-Fiat CEO Sergio Marchi
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DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 4:10:17 PM

Weird headline
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52MPG
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 11:23:14 AM

I agree with Elon in regards to fuel cells.
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2014 8:29:42 AM

"Even the best theoretical fuel cell doesn't compete with batteries."

A bold statement, seeing that both are in their infancy; a biased one as well.
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Janr85
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 10:10:11 PM

All paths should be pursued. It may not always be one way. There could be regional winners based on several factors. For instance, solar energy is better in some regions than others. Technologies not even developed yet may be more efficient in some regions.
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LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 1:52:21 PM

Elon Musk is so full of himself it's not funny.

Hydrogen fuel cells and other alternatives have as much potential and more than most batteries on the market now or in the future. He just wants the glory, fame, money, etc., that he'll get.

I could do better than most of them put together. I know others that could as well.

[Edited by: LanguageMan1 at 6/14/2014 1:52:36 PM EST]
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HorizonChaser
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:26:15 PM

worth reading
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car253
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 9:02:27 AM

It will be one long war.
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Dennis783
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 8:12:28 AM

as a country we have to decide on an alternative then develop it
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jfknaples
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 7:14:30 AM

Well were we put our golf clubs and luggage - need to address trunk space.
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 1:02:18 AM

Interesting.
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TC5504
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:40:31 AM

Will have to wait and see
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Raider44
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:36:21 AM

competition is good, at least until the Chinese steal or are given our secrets.
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PainterRandy
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:31:39 AM

We have technology to go to the moon & beyond so I'm believing we could easily do better with our energy sources!
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papajcs
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:20:22 AM

We will wait and see how this shakes out.
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MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:16:27 AM

We need ALL types of power. Don't go in just one direction.
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jrschl
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:09:33 AM

I don't care what happens, I just feel there needs to be competition and alternatives so there are checks and balances. Fuel has become a weapon on society, and seriously inhibits people and business from being able to enjoy things.
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pricewar
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:09:32 AM

A race of losers
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 12:03:08 AM

k
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tim1999
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 11:30:00 PM

It will be interesting to see which alternative emerges.
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RTBama1
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 11:19:33 PM

Just work out the bugs.
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Zeke33
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 11:12:42 PM

Tesla is priced above my means. Maybe the Hollywood rich and famous?
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 11:08:32 PM

and what else would he espouse ??????????
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 11:07:07 PM

ok
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