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TornadoTDI

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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:26:22 AM

North American Honda fans ponder the missing diesel option from Honda’s car and light truck offerings. Asia and Europe owners report 70+ mpg from CR-V and Civic. Hey Honda, where’s my 70 mpg Civic?

It’s not that North America hasn’t seen diesel engine powered cars and light trucks offered in the not too distant past. In-fact, Chevrolet,Mercedes Benz and Volkswagen have all offered diesel fueled small cars and light trucks for decades.

Yes, diesel engine production has been sidelined more than once at the hands of CARB and EPA regulations, but with today’s direct injection, low to no sulfur diesel fuels and multiple staged catalytic converters, diesel engine based automotive technology is quickly becoming the propulsion of choice.
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TruthMatters
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:25:01 PM

Thats right!
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ooltewah63
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:59:47 AM

Cool
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Yooperheart
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 6:51:04 PM

Now your talking.
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jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 6:05:33 PM

Nice numbers.
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Tacodan
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 6:03:17 PM

Yea
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 5:24:57 PM

That would be GREAT!!
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JoeKR
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:59:32 PM

Just fuel up at any McDonald's back door!
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ss70
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:57:21 PM

we need it here as of yesterday
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gbs1
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:43:50 PM

I want a Chevy Impala Diesel.
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YumaFellow
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:36:45 PM

Would like to see the Civic version here and would consider it.
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comprof
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:11:24 PM

I have had bad luck with small diesels.
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wessong
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 3:48:02 PM

Auto manufacturers could do much better in the whole mpg department. Not in big oil's best interest, though.
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 2:49:25 PM

From the article: "Yes, diesel engine production has been sidelined more than once at the hands of CARB and EPA regulations, but with today’s direct injection, low to no sulfur diesel fuels and multiple staged catalytic converters, diesel engine based automotive technology is quickly becoming the propulsion of choice."

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I like diesel and will likely purchase another.
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panteraone
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 2:08:13 PM

bring it here Honda
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gs7101
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 1:07:10 PM

Noted.
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 12:56:28 PM

good
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CocoPaz
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 12:50:43 PM

Used to have a civic. Great car.
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evowner
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 12:32:51 PM

In the case of powering Internal combustion engines, less is better.
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LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 12:30:13 PM

Of course we do and the European vehicles that get 60 to 200 mpg, but just how much of it will they let us have? We could already have vehicles here that get up to 250 mpg and even more, but they don't want that to be. They want their New World Order, and I curse everyone among them that wants it and their Gods and their supporters as well!
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 12:25:04 PM

these are great cars
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 12:03:40 PM

Just another form of government listening to Washington who take their orders from the people who are donating to the correct political party
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VickersJB
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:44:27 AM

"I wonder why EPA is skeptical with diesel but overzealous on ethanol."

Wonder no more. Ethanol fuel requirements are there for two reasons:

1. Buying votes from Corn Belt voters
2. Funneling money to Archer Daniels Midland and other ethanol producers
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highdesertman
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:29:48 AM

It's not the EPA that is preventing more diesels from being sold in the U.S. but the perceived lack of interest by consumers coupled with the limited availability of diesel fuel outlets on the West Coast.
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Nino347
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:28:34 AM

By electric and dual fuel cars.
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bklynse
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:25:38 AM

The EPA just doesn't have a clue... The questionable science at the base of their rulings is crippling this country.
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:24:06 AM

OK
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lin95688
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:04:43 AM

ask the EPA before asking Honda
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1GhettoWhipper
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:02:36 AM

wonder what the 'clean
green's have to say???
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:00:51 AM

I wonder why EPA is skeptical with diesel but overzealous on ethanol.
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MassGas007
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:44:33 AM

That's funny the US Won't let VW'S car that gets 300 MPG.But say ok
to Honda 70 mpg car. !!
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LostInNY
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:42:59 AM

yeah....check the price of diesel lately?
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PhilMils
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:33:23 AM

Sounds good.
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