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BurntOrange
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 8:57:17 AM

South Dakota Gov. Dennis Daugaard and five other governors from ethanol-producing states said a cut to the country’s ethanol mandate would hurt efforts to create jobs, grow family incomes and revitalize their local economies.

In a letter to Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Gina McCarthy and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, the governors urged the Obama administration to increase the biodiesel volume level to reflect current production levels, modify the cellulosic target to match production expectations and bring the overall renewable fuels target back in line with what Congress initially required.

The EPA, which oversees the country’s Renewable Fuel Standard, proposed in November cutting the fuel requirement in 2014 to 15.2 billion gallons of ethanol and other biofuels —
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JOHNJOEYJOE
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2014 8:00:28 AM

How much did Gov. Daugaard and the other governors sell out for to lobby for the corn'ies?
bston
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2014 2:13:20 AM

Whiners!
drpepperTX
Champion Author Texas

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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2014 12:56:07 AM

evowner, in 30+ years of ranching here in TX my net return, considering all costs on the cattle feeds including corn and soybean meal, cottonseed and distillers' grains diets, were all about the same as a corn gluten feed diet. However, that was when corn was fairly steady around that $2 per bushel mark.

The relative value of corn gluten feed depends heavily upon the relative price of corn. Have you seen the price per bushel of corn over the last few years as the ethanol mandates kicked in?? Apparently not from your posts below. 2012 saw corn skyrocket to average $6.90 per bushel thanks to these ridiculous ethanol mandates you favor, proving your earlier statement utterly ridiculous.
evowner
Champion Author Salem

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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:25:38 PM

I fed cattle corn gluten from a Cargill ethanol plant in Iowa when corn was less than $2.00 per bushel.We did this because gluten decreased our cost per pound of gain.
bar1035
Champion Author Charlotte

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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 9:37:27 PM

Agreed Drpepper,

That poster tells a few lies every day.

drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 7:52:13 PM

"Lack of ethanol by-product for cattle feed will raise the cost of feeding cattle, thus higher beef prices."
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Wow! What utter and complete nonsense! Some people have NO clue! LOL!
ktbaeohana
Champion Author Las Vegas

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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 5:52:37 PM

watch and see.
andy1024
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 5:31:33 PM

Find better uses for corn that create more sustainable and stable jobs.
tnfran
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 4:08:07 PM

Get rid of the "crap Ethanol " -let the governors look for other areas to increase jobs.
Amplion
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 3:49:46 PM

DAUGAARD NEEDS TO BE REPLACED !!!!!
schvanda63
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 3:20:04 PM

"...grow family incomes..."

Who's family? Certainly NOT the American public. We pay MORE for everyday grocery items due to massive amounts of corn (and fields) diverted to ethanol production. It causes us to burn MORE fuel to get anywhere, it causes damage to ICE's. The only people it helps are the farmers getting the SUBSIDIES (OUR tax dollars) to grow corn for this crap.
mkohly
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 2:56:00 PM

45 states don't want it. What ever happened to 'majority rules'
qwerty17
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 2:55:54 PM

yeah, this ethanol thing is all Obama's fault. sheesh.
mitt4prez
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 2:55:33 PM

Down with ethanol!
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 2:51:02 PM

Obama doesn't care about jobs, but he does care about his left wing agenda. He campaigned in 2008 on wanting to double the current mandates, so don't expect him to cut the current ethanol mandate.
ss70
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 2:30:03 PM

use e85 in all the vehicles in your states first before crying out loud
el_fr
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 1:57:52 PM

Get rid of ethanol now
YumaFellow
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 1:46:05 PM

How about growing sweet corn for food?
RNCII
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 1:25:07 PM

Food for fuel never was or ever will be a good idea
hmw10284
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 1:02:02 PM

feeding the starving people only begets (in the biblical sense) more starving people
hmw10284
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 1:01:12 PM

ethanol is a GREAT product - just not as a gas additive - find some other uses
vjs3
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:48:51 PM

Hmm, they can afford to purchase new vehicles once ethanol has done it's job. Please... Ethanol is NOT for vehicles. Feed the starving people instead.
Discovery02
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:45:14 PM

Yep, it'll cut all those new jobs repairing engines due to corn damage from using Ethanol-laden gasoline. Put corn on the table and let me use algae for my gas tank will ya?
wrunner
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:39:31 PM

Corn for food for humans and animals.

Say no to ethanol.
evowner
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:38:45 PM

Lack of ethanol by-product for cattle feed will raise the cost of feeding cattle, thus higher beef prices.
fedupMN
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:36:05 PM

Interesting.... very interesting.... a GOP governor asking the government for help.
bsnort
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:32:07 PM

they better start to prepare for the inevitable..................
coughlin
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:25:14 PM

No food for fuel.
reidlej
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:16:07 PM

Pressing their self serving position.
peabeax55
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 12:06:41 PM

Narrow minded, self serving idiots....

Trying to continue nursing at the govvamint teat when it shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Nothing but a pyramid scheme based on government handouts. Please let it crash so we can get back to NORMAL economic growth.
A reset is in order.
Yooperheart
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:57:20 AM

Cash cow going away, hummmm??
sciotosix
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:51:45 AM

Will these same governors pay for the damage done to our engines because of ethanol?
df99
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:47:04 AM

Remove all ethanol from gasoline!
bwatchingu
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:44:32 AM

Ban ethanol!
fuel2use
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:36:50 AM

No food for Fuel.
gashound007
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:28:21 AM

Leave corn for food.
Flashcube
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:24:17 AM

Leave Ethanol out of our gas.
MustangRacing
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:21:35 AM

Get rid of Ethanol. It's bad for the CONSUMER.
lesabreAZ
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:10:23 AM

they are all full of corn....and beans
twinfanMN
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 11:03:39 AM

If Mark Dayton is for it I'm against it
drz614
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:55:26 AM

i disagree with ethanol
humblepie
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:53:19 AM

welfare is spreading out of control its plain to see
Fleabite44
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:50:04 AM

Local economies should not depend on federal mandates. That is not the roll of the Federal government.
sarasotasingle
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:43:40 AM

k
screwoilco
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:36:49 AM

get a life and earn money without handouts
polaris2
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:32:22 AM

Whats good for them is not so for the rest that are forced to buy ethanol fuels, must be a happy medium somewhere.
Nikontraveler
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:32:10 AM

Idiots. Grow Corn for food not for gasoline.
moose21040
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:25:30 AM

ok
montpelier28
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:25:12 AM

Wondering when this started. Just curious about last Sunday's drawing. Sounds good to me but would have liked to know before it started. Like better chances of winning but do also realize how many Gas Buddy members there are. Thanks Gas Buddy.
moosepooler
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 10:22:09 AM

kk
mastermariner
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Don't blame them if I was in their shoes
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