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mastermariner

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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 1:49:00 AM

The railcars carrying crude oil that crashed into a derailed grain train in North Dakota on Monday were all older types that do not meet the latest industry safety standards, a member of the National Transportation Safety Board said on Tuesday.

Robert Sumwalt, who is leading the NTSB's investigation into the collision of two BNSF Railway Co trains, said the cylindrical tank cars on the oil train were known as DOT-111s, which are widely used to move crude and ethanol.

In October 2011, the American Association of Railroads, the rail industry's trade group, adopted new standards requiring tank cars manufactured after that date to have thicker hulls and reinforced valves to better protect against punctures and leaks in derailments. U.S. regulators also are considering tougher safety standard
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 1:24:26 PM

Out-of-date rail cars - just one common thread between QC and ND. Time to scrap 'em. After all, in order to make that profit the cargo has to arrive safely.
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 8:28:02 AM

So lets remove all the bad rail cars from the tracks.

And also all those unsafe Classic ammerican cars.....

Its not going to happen.
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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 6:03:22 AM

I think you would be amazed at the things in everyday life that not safe such as that bridge you cross on your way to work.
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BAJALRRP
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 2:10:52 AM

Pipe it!
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ldiggy
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:50:06 PM

That's a damn shame.
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lyanMI
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:33:19 PM

Don't compromise on safety
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HuDeanie
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:27:56 PM

So they knew they were hazards but kept using them. Better be fines coming.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:26:14 PM

okay
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timesaverinc
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:24:15 PM

So make them replace them before they can carry oil
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Imran4687
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:18:46 PM

Ok
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LQQKGAS
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:18:16 PM


Everywhere you look now days trains are derailing and exploding 6 or 7 times a day. Something needs to be done.
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us412
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:15:29 PM

Everything you use meets, at best, the standards in effect when it was made.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:10:38 PM

Bad situation made worse.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:08:44 PM

These cars need to be taken out of service.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:08:02 PM

Ok
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merlinMalo
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:04:31 PM

Build the pipelines and leave the train's out !
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firechief
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:02:33 PM

who is going to inspect them?
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GordoM
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 7:59:57 PM

What will it take to get our politicians to issue permits for pipeline construction? Truckers and railroads must be making lots of "campaign contributions" (bribes).
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 7:58:57 PM

ok
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BumpinButch
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 7:58:35 PM

Weakest link is always the cause.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 7:50:39 PM

Duh
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coughlin
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 4:36:01 PM

Tough break.
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PathfinderSC
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 1:39:28 PM

If the railroads let go of the billions in profits they making and invest
In to new tanker it would be better.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 1:07:32 PM

Inspect the equipment always and on a regular schedule.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 12:40:05 PM

Not enough "new" rolling equipment available to meet the demand??
They cost too much to replace "old" stock??
Take a chance that nothing will happen with "old" stock
Save a bundle of $$$$ by doing so.
Welcome to Lac M├ęgantic & Casselton.
Next stop......somewhere in North America.
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Chem60
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 10:16:04 AM

I am sure that most rail cars in use are very old.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 10:00:51 AM

What do you expect when you go from 10,000 rail cars to over 400,000 in just a few years as my article yesterday that no one read showed.

They aren't all gonna be brand new.
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dudleydog
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 9:24:31 AM

may be time to look at investing in rail car companies
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Evilmaddog
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:49:55 AM

Railways cutting corners to maximize profits....go figure
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radbadtz
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blame obamacare, and free market capitalism. suck it up, it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets worse
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 8:09:27 AM

Of course if it didn't derail there wouldn't be an issue.
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It's all about making money - Not spending it.
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dwbuddy
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 6:07:59 AM

Corp. greed makes this all happen unsafely. They want to deliver a product fast and get paid.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 5:51:43 AM

Blame BummerBama for not letting the pipelines be built.
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evowner
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 3:11:27 AM

Why can't corporations be trusted to handle their product safely?
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 3:09:52 AM


     ok
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 2:58:48 AM

Hauling crude by rail is dangerous. Pipelines are the safest way to transport crude.
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 1:54:12 AM

Too much too quick for the railroads to adapt.
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2014 1:52:32 AM

Transporting oil is a dangerous job. No matter how it is done.
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