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SigIslander
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 7:50:55 PM

Electricity has arrived as a fuel source for an increasing number of vehicles.
Will this increase or decrease climate pollution compared to using gasoline?

Determining the climate pollution from electric-fuelled vehicles
requires compiling data on three new variables:

Electricity
Making The Cars
Battery Replacement

Four main conclusions:

1. In most regions, cars fuelled by electricity create less climate pollution
than the very best all-gasoline fuelled car.

2. In dirty electricity regions, driving on electricity creates
similar climate pollution to gasoline.

3. The climate pollution from burning gasoline vastly exceeds
the climate pollution from making the car.

4. There is a gigantic difference in how much climate pollution
comes from today's cars.
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djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 2:55:43 PM

They cause more ozone and the power companies to generate more electricity that will have to be used in big bursts if 220 volts are used for recharging.
Skunk63
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 9:59:35 AM

Isn't there a 5th variable? Do EV batteries get picked up by the battery fairy at the end of their useful life? Or do they need to be recycled before causing harm to the environment?
batloverNM
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 7:47:55 AM

Go electric! Ev's are here to stay. Get over it.
mwg6275
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 5:04:17 AM

"Q: How much climate pollution is created making an electric car and its battery?

A: Around 14 tCO2 = twice as much as for making an average gasoline-only car"

Enough said.
Bussman
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 4:45:49 AM

Okay...still can't afford one.
leeac
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 3:22:57 AM

EVs and hybrids are here to stay and are cleaner then other cars.
evowner
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 3:05:32 AM

Our solution to offset the increased electric need of the Leaf, we increased our number of solar panels.
There could be other solutions.
alterman156
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 1:47:42 AM

Electric cars are no a direct source of pollution, but the can cause it indirectly by increasing demand for electricity

[Edited by: alterman156 at 12/1/2013 1:47:27 AM EST]
pricewar
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:43:58 AM

It's all toxic green... Think about it
txkrb
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:41:26 AM

Debatable depending on how the electricity is produce to recharge the vehicle
Anty57
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:35:27 AM

ok
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:30:01 AM

less
FlatulenceOdor
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:27:21 AM

@crep1291, exactly my thoughts too. Where do these environmentalist think stores dispose these toxic batteries in a garbage bag?
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:06:47 AM

Sweet
Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:00:05 AM

I would guess wind and solar to be the cleanest electricity, then natural gas.
dudleydog
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:00:01 AM

worse pollution period
Vetteblu
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 11:53:18 PM

Hmm.
1GhettoWhipper
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 11:37:49 PM

interesting article of comparisons.....
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 11:30:11 PM

I would like more comparison between the two types of vehicles.
crep1291
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 10:40:38 PM

"no mention of energy to produce or get rid of the batteries???"

You obviously didn't read the article... There are no mention of energy anywhere in this article. Only the amount of CO2 emitted for manufacturing the vehicles, the batteries (those are the purple segments BTW) and for the fuel) are mentioned.
pleinyeux
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 10:28:33 PM

Wait 2050 to see loll
Buck_on_Bass
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 10:19:31 PM

The numbers address only CO2 emissions. They do not address other pollution.
mastermariner
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 10:15:29 PM

Wait until they start changing the batteries out
danindenver
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 9:19:28 PM

Simpler powerhouse means fewer mechanical parts to break down.
No changing air filters.
No changing fuel filters.
Less lung cancer.

(My brother died of lung cancer.)

Ltdc
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 9:11:29 PM

Not something I'm factoring in. I won't buy electric.
kag2010
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 9:08:04 PM

who really cares ?
Discovery02
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 9:00:58 PM

Worthwhile questions and research and answers which we must continue to pursue with each new energy source.
Snowball2013
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:47:32 PM

Thanks
fowlcan
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:44:24 PM


Physics fact:
“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”
Patriots9
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:40:39 PM

Ok
lesabreAZ
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:19:10 PM

no mention of energy to produce or get rid of the batteries???
PhilMils
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:16:54 PM

This is an interesting and well researched article.

Too many people refuse to understand that even well-made gasoline auto engines are horribly inefficient compared to a power generation plant.
evowner
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:10:49 PM

An EV has no tail pipe emitting pollution and is using electricity produced by a state of the art in efficient electrical generator system. This electrical system has various generating sources (green) to produce the electricity and uses the existing infrastructure. When there is an electrical break down (spill) there is little environmental clean up.
SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:05:52 PM

Pollution is just a fact of life. Everyone who draws breath is guilty of pollution. There was more pollution at the turn of the 20th century when "horsies" were the predominant mode of transportation with their attendant "solid" waste as well as our burning of "soft coal".

So this invention of AGW took center stage and has now become a discredited "theory" which just will not die, because if it proves to be true, the opportunity for controlling our lives will escape the grasp of the Establishment.

But "Truth will ultimately prevail where pains are taken to bring it to light."
humblepie
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:00:28 PM

who really cares ?
ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 7:54:11 PM

More pollution.
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