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Oredigger94
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 8:40:32 AM

Karen Freeman thought that she’d returned her Chrysler 200 sedan to the airport in Richmond, Va., with a full tank. She thought wrong.
“An agent noted that the tank was full,” says Freeman, an architect from Atlanta. The gauge also registered that the tank was at capacity, she says.

But a few days later, when she reviewed her credit card bill, she discovered that Avis had charged her an extra $7.43 for 0.8 gallons of gas, or about $9.29 per gallon. She called the company to complain.

“A representative told me that according to a satellite, when I picked up my car, it had 16.9 gallons in it,” she says. “And when I returned it, it had 16.1 gallons. I checked the ticket from pickup, and there’s no mention of the fuel quantity other than ‘G8’ — which means full.”
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 3:13:47 PM

There should be no liability on the part of the customer for fuel in the gas tank that is greater that what is measurable and displayed within the vehicle at the start of, during and at the end of the vehicle rental just prior to returning the vehicle to the renting company. This means that if a vehicle rental company has the technology to measure the quantity of fuel in the vehicle gas tank to 1/10 of a gallon, then the gauge or electronic data read out carried within the rental vehicle should also be able to measure and disclose to the renter the exact same 1/10 of a gallon measurement so that the renter will know if additional fuel needs to be added to the fuel tank in order to return the vehicle with the exact same quantity of fuel that it held at the start of the rental.

Otherwise, the determination of what is a "full" state for a rental car fuel tank should only be determined by the vehicle's on board fuel gauge and not by any electronic fuel measurement technology that is more precise and that is not on board the rented vehicle and available to the renter during the rental.
bston
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 2:23:24 PM

They give a new meaning to the old phrase "straining at a gnat...!"
Canucktree
Champion Author Alberta

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 10:35:11 AM

Cheap move! That is why there are choices!
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 5:41:52 AM

ripping customers off is never a good thing in the long run.
lgwhitlock
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 1:40:44 AM

Greed...
ExitRamp
Champion Author Orlando

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:45:45 AM

Avis is trying harder to rip us off. I'll remember that the next time I need to rent a car.
wang91554
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:44:13 AM

And the person after Karen will return the car with 16.9 gallons in it, and Avis will happily pocket that extra. Greedy!
unicornpmb
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:42:56 AM

Costly gas.
Ply440GTX
Champion Author Kansas

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:42:33 AM

Nice. Perfect example of people/companies trying to find any way to separate you from your finances. Horsesh*t never ends!
rosyLI
Champion Author Long Island

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:41:46 AM

What a scam.
itsjustme719
Champion Author Hamilton

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:40:18 AM

That's ridiculous!
TheSicilian
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:36:18 AM

Unbelievable
Dolfankai
Champion Author Miami

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:35:46 AM

I don't believe that crap! Those companies are getting over. What about all of the people that always return cars with more gas than what they had in the beginning? If you ask me, they're making out like bandits.
Zonk
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:34:50 AM

I'd forget Avis.
GasSpy007
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:34:07 AM

OMG are you freaking kidding me?? OUT OF CONTROL..
300kmiles
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:32:31 AM

Greed! Sucks
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:30:51 AM

Far-Out
mlmeng
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:30:06 AM

RAE344 wrote "There is no way to fill it up. Unless you carry a gas container to the rental agent and fill it up there.

This will be chalked up as another scam. Brought to you by the increase reliance on electrical components.

With all the new tracking devices, they can measure up to the .1 gallons and charge you $20 a gallon. "

And no political party in Washington will help either.
jjfisher
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:27:47 AM

How does the consumer know that the tank was completely full when it's picked up? Maybe they should weigh the car before and after being loaded to determine fuel levels in and out.
crreed1
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:25:11 AM

crooks
10k
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:24:08 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!..all y'all liberal greenies get what you pay for..

ENJOY !!!..this story is too dang funny to me..$9.29/gallon ??-you aked for it, ya got it..

PRICELESS..
rat2000
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:23:37 AM

Avis sucks and is so sneaky adding charges.
blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:23:37 AM

Another way to rip off the consumer.
HizznHerz
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:22:21 AM

interesting for sure
ItsMorph
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:21:38 AM

Easy solution: don't rent from Avis.
Joseph2005
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:20:10 AM

Ok
greshams
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:19:37 AM

huge ripoff, these are the people that need locked up.
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:19:31 AM

Sounds like the consumer loses no matter how you figure.
Matt G
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:18:50 AM

Ok
Glock26
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:18:30 AM

Another big rip-off!!!
RAE344
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:18:27 AM

There is no way to fill it up. Unless you carry a gas container to the rental agent and fill it up there.

This will be chalked up as another scam. Brought to you by the increase reliance on electrical components.

With all the new tracking devices, they can measure up to the .1 gallons and charge you $20 a gallon.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:18:16 AM

Gouging.
jethro5000
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:18:15 AM

Crooks
ekidokai
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:17:03 AM

Cool
bridgerunner
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:16:51 AM

I'll bet there is no credit or mention if it contains more gas.
3940
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:16:45 AM

If the system can accurately register the amount of fuel in the tank at any time, the all vehicles should truly have a completely full tank every time. Consumers have no control over a fill up pump nozzle if they allow the device to shut of automatically. They need to provide the customer prior to return to rental facility, the actual amount of fuel needed to return to the departure amount. Then the rental customer will know how much fuel is needed to avoid the add charge.

GSKHY
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:16:03 AM

wow
Ray_10589
Champion Author New York

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:16:00 AM

give me a break ..... greed
ScottTee
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:15:23 AM

Bad deal
Tigercat88
Champion Author North Carolina

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:15:14 AM

Avis is a crook.
speedraider
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:14:08 AM

what ever
PoohMcGoo
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:13:58 AM

another car rental scam..
us4usa
Champion Author Missouri

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:13:01 AM

Will never rent a vehicle from Avis...
TheeRedRam
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:12:55 AM

What a bunch of KRAP
SHEP20715
Champion Author Maryland

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:12:45 AM

If cars are filled at the pick up spot, it is impossible to DRIVE them back with the same amount of gas.
fastfreddy38
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:12:20 AM

Another scam..
gocatgo
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:11:57 AM

Some companies work hard coming up with new rip offs.
regout
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:10:48 AM

They should pay the right price. Those Avis and others are excessive on the fuel price.
mlambo
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:10:32 AM

Looked at Richmond gas buddy and not many stations charge more than $3.50 a gallon. Avis cheated herby charging her $7.43 for .8 of a gallon of gas. That why I never rent a car from Avis! You shouldn't either.

[Edited by: mlambo at 10/14/2013 12:11:12 AM EST]
pgerassi
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:10:31 AM

Refuse to pay it and pick another company to rent from.
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:10:16 AM

I just left a co. that uses GPS to determine WHERE you are and WHEN you are utilizing an Enterprise Lease Car and Salesfarce.com
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