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Nicoalbum
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 12:07:37 AM

It was one of the largest spills recorded in the state. It was 4 times the size of a pipeline rupture in Mar that forced the evacuation of more than 20 homes in AR

But it was 12 days after Jensen reported the spill before state officials told the public what had happened, raising questions about how ND, which is in the midst of an oil boom, reports such incidents

Gov.Dalrymple, who says he wasn’t even told about what happened until Wed night, said the state is now investigating its procedures for reporting spills

“Initially, it was felt that the spill was not overly large. When they realized it was a fairly sizable spill, they began to contact more people about it”

A ND spokesman for Sierra Club, said the spill is an example of the lack of oversight in a state that has exploded with oi
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twinfanMN
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 9:17:46 PM

I'm sure the tree huggers will be coming out in force now
remay
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 2:14:06 PM

Time for ND to wake up.
gravityhurts
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 6:45:37 AM

Risky business.
KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 1:44:26 AM

Say it ain't so --
MidNJ
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 5:26:31 PM

20,000 barrels of oil spilled is a large spill. Why didn't someone notice that this amount of oil was not coming out. Seems there should be accounting of how much goes in one end and comes out the other.
bart_reed
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 2:35:33 PM

Safety should be a priority.
FortVancouver01
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 2:11:44 PM

Good that this was apparently not over one of the near by acquifers.
NanookAK
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 11:47:18 AM

Normal procedures for the oil industry.
gbs1
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 11:27:16 AM

Spills will happen, just as trains will derail. The response is what's important.
tomfromnm
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 11:03:17 AM

But Keystone will be safe?? NOT
matthwbar
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:34:37 AM

It's fine...
FogCitySpotter
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:32:17 AM

Safety first
majormarket
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:29:01 AM

Growing pains as ND learns that there are problems that also come with the bounty of oil.
six_ball_man
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:25:29 AM

How do government agencies aware of the issue not notify the public that elected them?

You get what you vote for, boys and girls.
Ticobird
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:09:20 AM

How does a pipeline company not notice a 20,600 barrel spill. That's about $2,060,000 of unaccounted assets. Something else is broken besides the pipeline.



[Edited by: Ticobird at 10/12/2013 9:11:26 AM EST]
mastermariner
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:02:42 AM

Hard to figure e out why it was not spotted by the operator.
Ltdc
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:42:07 AM

If it took a farmer to find a leak that big then they have a problem.
ARCO
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:25:26 AM

HOW TRUE
sawdust1825
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:24:14 AM

They must be doing something right if the Sierra Club doesn't like it.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:24:04 AM

Oops.
gravityhurts
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:21:59 AM

What's the big deal accidents happen, improvements are made then we move on.
mk9999
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:21:26 AM

Be more careful.
beohbeNJ
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:21:05 AM

It was a learning experience for them.
INBwana
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:20:23 AM


Accidents happen.
rtw777
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:20:22 AM

A minor problem made to look huge.
Asbury09
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:20:04 AM

incidents like this csn raise oversight issues
METEOR49
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:19:11 AM

do it once and do it right .
lsb1955
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:19:08 AM

ok
curlypooh
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:18:22 AM

It's a growing/learning process
thefrog31
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:18:10 AM

Anyone want to eat those local crops? Not me, I don't want anything grown near that pipeline.
geezrtek
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:17:54 AM

I'm so glad the oil was being transported in one of those SAFE pipelines and not by rail.
OuttaOfGAS
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:16:54 AM

Sounds LIKE a mess...so start capturing it and start giving US lower gas prices...
ssect8
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:16:44 AM

Nothing new, accidents happen all the time.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:16:36 AM

The enviornmindless tree hugging freaks and their sky is falling scare tactics at it again????
jrschl
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:15:41 AM

The boom can be handled, but companies can't cut corners. The is always the chance of human error.
riverrd
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:15:31 AM

Hmmm.
BartBuzz
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:15:28 AM

Clean it up and move on.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:15:15 AM

ND oil spill raises questions about state’s ability to handle energy boom after incident. This crude oil spill should have been detected much sooner. Are there records of how much crude oil is pumped (in barrels) and how much crude oil is received? It takes the state 12 days to respond? After the first day if the state did not responded, the farmers should have contacted the local TV station and have a reporter out there ASAP! When a crude oil spill is on the news, people in charge will move like there is a fire under their butt and things will happen! The article said there is a clay layer under the surface of the ground and the oil did not penetrate the ground to the water level. That crude oil spill of 7.3 acres or 7 football fields and 6 inches deep - must be giving off a very strong oil stink.
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
AESJOBLOM4
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:15:14 AM

WHAT SPILL?
taxiken
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:15:10 AM

Hind sight.
racerdj
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:14:39 AM

I believe all spills teach all some new lessons.
gravie314
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:14:29 AM

OK.
silverfoxv65
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:13:42 AM

They will learn, it just takes time.
thefrog31
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:12:48 AM

Why is big business and industry and governments reactive instead of proactive? If anyone tried to forsee events like this and put in place procedures and restrictions they would be viewed as anti business red tape.
paoli8
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:11:19 AM

Its easy to find someone to blame in these unfortunate incidents. In time, they will learn
treehood
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:10:00 AM

Mind you i don't know a damn thing about pipelines but it seems to me that a 6" pipeline could be covered by a 10 or 12 inch sleeve with sensors imbedded to self report any leaks and contain them for some period of time. It would raise the cost of the pipeline but only minimally in the overall scope and the additional safety and warning afforded might offset that cost. Just a thought.
shea33
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:09:29 AM

they never plan for these events.
POWERSTROKE7.3L
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:09:10 AM

OK.
AESJOBLOM4
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:09:01 AM

WHAT SPILL?
Peachy1
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:08:43 AM

Safety, safety, and more safety.
Marson
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:08:16 AM

Interesting, may need to upgrade response capability.
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