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mastermariner

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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 12:01:19 AM

While Toyota Motor Corp. still faces a bundle of lawsuits claiming that defective electronics caused some of its cars to accelerate uncontrollably, often with tragic results, another courtroom victory has given the automaker momentum heading into those other cases.

Jurors deliberated for about five days in Los Angeles before concluding Thursday that the automaker was not liable for the death of Noriko Uno. The 66-year-old was killed in 2009 when her 2006 Toyota Camry was struck by another car, then continued on a harrowing ride until it slammed into a telephone pole and tree.

Toyota's lawyers said the sedan's design was not to blame and Uno likely mistook the gas pedal for the brake. Jurors cleared the Japanese automaker but decided that the other driver, who ran a stop sign, should
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remay
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 2:12:36 PM

Hard to provve...
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bart_reed
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 1:40:08 AM

Poor driver.
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LocalSpyGuy
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:09:25 AM

In this case we may never know.
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 9:05:10 AM

Lots of driver error out there
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skempton
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:58:12 AM

Can't believe that the jurors didn't award the plaintiff 100 million.
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orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:21:20 AM

I have been driving two vehicles that had 'uncontrollable acceleration' issues, a Nissan and a Chrysler. Both times (Nissan a return spring broke, and Chrysler a poor cable design jammed) there could have been an accident, but there wasn't just because I know what to do. With the Nissan, it was knocking the lever from Drive to Neutral before trying to wrestle it to a stop. For the Chrysler product, it was simply putting in the clutch and shifting to Neutral before trying to wrestle it to a stop.

Let the engine race.

I blame people who haven't a frigging clue what they are doing, or haven't the slightest idea about how a vehicle operates. THEY are the real menace, not the sliding floor mats or whatever.

I might be old school, but I can drive everything from non-syncromesh to electrics. My firm belief is that anyone who cannot drive a manual transmission car properly in an official driving test, and cannot show competence in controlling a skid, or a jammed gas pedal or suddenly no brakes or any other type of 'driving challenge' should have a big dayglow sticker mounted front and rear : DANGER! LIMITED SKILLS DRIVER

Maybe you can't fix stupid, but you can limit its scope for causing damage.
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Evilmaddog
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:02:17 AM

only lawyers win
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cashpile
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 7:41:46 AM

Meh
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pscamp
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 7:21:56 AM

Really??
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wamster
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 7:11:57 AM

I agree with the ruling on Toyota this time around. I'm surprised by the 10 mil fine for the other driver. That seems excessive,
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StArrow68
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 4:42:06 AM

As cars age, the issues with faulty steering, throttle and brake position sensors is going to get worse.
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BALRSTATUS
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 3:35:16 AM

ok
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bklynse
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 3:15:42 AM

Too many people have had this problem. Don't try to tell me that ALL of them mistook the gas pedal for the brake...
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OTISFL
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 3:00:14 AM

Toyota has surely lost its good reputation!
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Amplion
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 2:50:23 AM

TOYOTA IS A POORLY ENGINEERED, POORLY BUILT AUTOMOBILE. I OWNED TWO OF THEM & I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER.

BOTH OF MY TOYOTA HAD DEFECTIVE THROTTLE POSITION SENSORS REPLACED BY AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AT MY EXPENSE.

ANYONE WHO BUYS A TOYOTA DESERVES THE PROBLEMS WHICH COME WITH IT !!!!!

WHAT YOU DRIVE REFLECTS WHO YOU ARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RNCII
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 2:14:01 AM

The NTSB tried for months to get a Toyota to accelerate uncontrollably testing more then 200 cars and never had one do that.
So how do expect to prove the cars did that.
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 2:11:10 AM

yep,

Unfortunately there are no winners.
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1GhettoWhipper
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:45:23 AM

if these were accidents,
they were ones waiting to happen.........
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evpark
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:45:22 AM

People always want to blame others for their accident even when they know that it was their fault.
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Gil43
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:41:57 AM

big money does it again
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Mowerman08
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:40:16 AM

Stupid title for one win.
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SteveHawk
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:37:23 AM

they alway win little guy always loses
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DEG
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:34:30 AM

Ok.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:32:00 AM

ok
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GAS1251
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:31:45 AM

The expected outcome, but this wouldn't be a good time for a self-driving Toyota
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SnagaDeal
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:31:01 AM

The rich hate to pay the victim and can usually afford to win lawsuits.
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Dragnet
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:30:04 AM

OK fine. Wouldn't say momentum
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RENEGADEGAS
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:29:17 AM

We are still yapping about this? Really?
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:28:49 AM

- Very Interesting . . . .




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bobdec
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:28:34 AM

Who are they paying off
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SBlouch
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:28:23 AM

The only ones who win in this unfortunate situation are the lawyers. Another person is dead and the blame goes to the driver who ran the red light and Uno likely mistook the gas pedal for the brake.
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Burger09
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:28:00 AM

Really???
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Ebaz
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:27:47 AM

Tough to prove without witnesses
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fastfreddy38
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:27:20 AM

Better quality control is a must...!
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:26:35 AM

ok
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MichaelJFS
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:24:27 AM

Sad
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pgerassi
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:21:20 AM

SOP. They blame the driver.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:19:23 AM

Yeah no winners here.
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forteras
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:19:16 AM

Japanese person, Japanese car-Kismet. I know, that's cruel.
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huey715
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:18:15 AM

Nobody wins but lawyers
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:17:48 AM

Over 50 people that died in these death traps , would disagree. Toyota covered it up for a few years , even after continued reports of sudden, uncontrollable acceleration. There's a horrible video of a California Highway patrolman in the back seat of one of these on his cell phone and a heliocopter taking film of it. He and all in the car died. They could not shut it off, could not put it in neutral to blow the engine. Shameful company.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:16:14 AM

k
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Ron77095
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:16:00 AM

ok.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:15:23 AM

Interesting case. Toyota seems to be handling it a positive way. Hope we get the decision if it comes to that.
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ShadowACE
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:12:43 AM

Another clear case where virtually all of the winners are.....members of the Bar Association.
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obimerrill
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:12:27 AM

Oh brother...these are still around??
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WE0H
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:10:58 AM

These bogus cases were proven without a doubt to be operator error. Even so, Toyota stepped up and implemented safety features in both hardware and software to prevent any so called unintended acceleration from ever being possible by a hardware or software fault in all their vehicles.
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ScottTee
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:10:22 AM

For once, an outcome that makes sense
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:09:27 AM

ok
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camel1
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:08:30 AM

interesting
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