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Sanpoil

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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:10:43 AM

Global warming has slowed since 1998 as pollution reached record levels and rising seas became a more pressing concern, according to a United Nations report that’s hardening views on both sides of the climate debate.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said the temperature has been increasing at less than half the longer-term average since 1951. It also found for the first time most of the world’s untapped fossil fuels must remain in the ground to avoid catastrophic increases in storms and ocean levels.

The findings came in a 36-page summary of a report that’s aimed at guiding the work of policy makers and provided ammunition for both environmental groups pressing for stronger action on carbon emissions and skeptics who dispute that climate change is a concern. Scientists said
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remay
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 11:49:58 PM

Do I believe what comes from Blooomerberg? We just read articles that it is getting worse.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 11:23:07 PM

Bunch whooie
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 9:52:44 PM

Thank you for submitting this article, Sanpoil.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 7:05:52 AM

Weirdos.
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"... professing to be wise, they became fools."


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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:24:35 AM

he said....they said...nobody knows...
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traffic cop
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:21:32 PM

But why is the U.N. still peddling this crapola? I know why Obama does--he has to look after his crony capitalists.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:59:59 PM

Excellent points Zuegma!

The deniers of nature, the alarmists, are getting more and more vociferous as their models are failing at every turn!

[Edited by: teenitup at 9/29/2013 10:01:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:53:08 PM

Man is the problem then if they got rid of 90 percent of the world population and the problem is solved.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 7:47:21 PM

"slowing" global warming is still global warming and mst not be ignored.
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BuckyTJones
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 4:44:33 PM


Looks like "Global Cycling" to me.

Hey maybe I can be famous and rich like Uncle Al.

"GLOBAL CYCLING" and its man caused.

No Cure No Hope No Stopping

I will take donations for further research !
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 4:29:39 PM

It is all a big hoax, just as Al Gore.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 3:07:14 PM

watch and see.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:37:18 PM

THAT'S GOOD, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:27:01 PM

O
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dodsworth
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:26:50 PM

This topic has become a game of who-do-you-want-to-believe.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:11:53 PM

Why warming is slowing down a bit (hint: its not getting colder, just slowing down on the heating) is pretty straightforward due to decade long variations, and additional cloud cover. Something like this Nova program explains one of the factors, 'global dimming' in an easy to understand fashion.
(each segment of the original program is about 10 minutes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUD66kjLVNw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZnnLnl8L2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLLsTdaVgsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcSW-ZsmpIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nucwkm1a1wA

What we really have to worry about is not just carbon dioxide, but the much more potent green house gas methane, trapped in permafrost tundra north of 60 degree north latitude in Canada and Russia, and in vast quantities on arctic and antarctic ocean seabeds under extreme cold and pressure in 'ice like' methane hydrates. Although scholarly research in recent years (but not recently) has put the likelihood of 'contemporary climate change' from methane emissions on the the low side, scientists were also not expecting to find Greenland and Antarctic glaciers, some miles thick, melting from BELOW and thawing the bedrock due to a bit more seasonal meltwater on top running down inside through cracks. In other words, warming frozen depths on land and (with meltwater flow) underwater. My own take on this is that when you have previously unimagined events happening then your conclusions based on previous data of 5 or 50 years ago, just might be suspect.

There are both seasonal and long term cyclical variations of ozone and methane and carbon dioxide. However, these charts might just make you sit up and take notice. And NOTE that some scales are logarithmic and not straight line which would make them much worse:

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicators/ghg/ghg-concentrations.html
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:51:04 PM

We can all trust politics to take care of this flawlessly!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:10:21 PM

good day and welcome to eco nonsense buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:58:44 PM

Quote: "Human beings are the cause of this transformation, and only action by human beings can save the world from its worst impacts.” J.Kerry

The sad part about most of the research done to date is that it's goal is/was to prove their answer to global warming was right rather that determining the real causes (hint: we can't control what's below our feet nor beyond our planet's changing magnetic field).

CO2 and it's other GHG are just symptoms. Global warming started some 10,000 years ago without industry and its carbon related emissions. In fact Earth went through some 19 cycles of warming, cooling & ice ages in the past 1.8 million years: all without combustion of hydrocarbons.

The sad reality is that CO2 'et al' are not the cause and we are not preparing for its worsening impacts. Instead, we are squandering trillions trying to develop ineffective and "costly" energy alternatives. Politicians answer: tax more, tax CO2.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:56:35 PM

Good Article.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:34:49 PM

Radar1992 You summed it well I agree 100%
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:26:02 PM

Sadly we have little to no control if the earth decides to warm or cool. These people can't accept the fact that we don't make a difference beyond our immediate sphere of influence.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:16:56 PM

Well said Thorman....
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:15:25 PM

Sorry Radar .... wrong again.....
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 12:13:48 PM

every study has a bias
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:18:10 AM

Proof that our conservation efforts are paying off, and proof that we are causing this
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:16:24 AM

Love the title and ask why?
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:15:38 AM

Yawn
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:13:47 AM

Too many articles on this today
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Radar1992
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:49:46 AM

The research is not going our way so we need to act now!

Remember the Affordable Care Act? "We need to pass the bill before we can find out what is in it?" - Nancy Pelosi

It was supposed to help the 15% who did not have health care....now 100% will not have health care or be able to keep their job or doctors...

Same old Socialist playbook...everyone needs to hurt so the elite feel better about themselves...

Does this sound familiar?
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:44:46 AM

Regardless of the effect on climate change, efforts to reduce air and water pollution are needed for the health, safety and quality of life on our planet, and should be encouraged by all countries.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:37:37 AM

Still warming too fast for me.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:34:26 AM

Global warming is caused partially by natural events beyond our control and partially by human activity. So let's put our energy into alleviating what we can instead of trying to prove the other guy wrong.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:23:55 AM

Quote from the article: "The Chicago-based lobby group is pushing to repeal clean-energy policies."

It's statements like this that bother me. What this group is saying they'd rather have dirty air. The cleaner the air, the better in my opinion. Let the skeptics move next door to a steel mill, refinery or other plant with smokestacks spewing out thick black toxic smoke for them to breathe. They might change their closed minds. (But I doubt it with the bottom line on their portfolios being the love of their life.)
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Breathe on this
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:21:58 AM

I have been told by the MSM that climate change is a hoax. should I care? God bless big oil and the profits they reap.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:16:51 AM

We'll be talking about global cooling in the next few years.
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More ethanol and less oil!!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:01:40 AM

Shame on you Sanpoil falling for using gasbuddy for weather articles.
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Don't wait too long it will be to late.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:55:14 AM

ok
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We need to build the Keystone Pipeline and more refineries ASAP!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:47:56 AM

The next ice age is coming...
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"Our predictions of doom turned out to be wrong. That just proves we're right!"
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Stay on course to slow the Global warming.
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“We need to build resilience and seize the opportunities of a low-carbon future,” UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in a video message to the meeting in Stockholm. A word to the wise is sufficient!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:17:40 AM

Al Gore dreaming
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So inconclusive!
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Good bye, Al Gore.
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