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GreenAstro

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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 6:40:32 AM

A director of the Finnish telecommunications giant, Nokia, has received what is believed to be the most expensive speeding ticket ever.

Anssi Vanjoki, 44, has been ordered to pay a fine of 116,000 euros ($103,600) after being caught breaking the speed limit on his Harley Davidson motorbike in the capital, Helsinki, in October last year.

Police say he was driving at 75 km/h (47 mph) in a 50km/h (31 mph) zone.

In Finland, traffic fines are proportionate to the latest available data on an offender's income.
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endymion
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 5:44:05 PM

Speeding is lawbreaking, no matter what you are driving.

I support high fines for high speeding and reckless endangerment, but crash victims die no matter what the income of the speeder was.
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endymion
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 5:40:53 PM

So much for equality under the law!!
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JoeKR
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 10:00:35 AM

That might help educate the Mercedes/Beemer/Lexus crowd that they are not above the laws because they can afford expensive cars.
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alex395
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 9:33:08 AM

One step removed from socialist state with Nordic welfare. So the incentive is to have minimal income. Sound familiar?
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gmcgas
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 7:29:22 AM

look for that here one day.
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Bussman
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 5:33:26 AM

See our future.
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MN1
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:59:07 AM

He knew the risks.
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el_fr
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:37:16 AM

Ridiculous
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BowieAL
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:18:46 AM

Need to try fines like that over here. I'm tired of almost being run off the road by idiots in their BMW, or Mercedes, who think that the laws don't apply to them!
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crreed1
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:16:36 AM

good
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evac93rd
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:15:21 AM

I'll go for progressive fines as long as we also get progressive votes.

You know one vote per 10,000 dollars of actual income, sorry welfare, alimony, child support and disability payments don't count only actual taxable income (yes capital gains count since the Gov't considers them income).

That seems fair right!!
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shiningknight15
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:14:02 AM

Ridiculous.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:13:26 AM

ok
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:12:46 AM

not too fair
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:12:22 AM

too much info
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heydano67
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:12:13 AM

ouch
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:11:54 AM

147 would have been worth the fine.
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rosyLI
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:11:53 AM

He was doing nearly double the speed limit. He deserves what he gets.
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N5EXY
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:11:07 AM

He was probably texting - - -
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:10:22 AM

Put governors on bikes not allowing them to go over 30mph and then restrict them to side streets only.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:10:06 AM

He must slow down...
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:09:52 AM

I guess this is what Europe knows better.
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mpg611
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:09:50 AM

They don't play around with traffic laws in Finland.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:08:50 AM

How do we get Bill Gates to over to Finland?
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Robert44
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:44:18 PM

Seems like good idea until you see example like this one! I think fine was way to much!!!
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Pielededrac
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:02:35 PM

Like in Switzerland, fines are based on yearly income. One can go to far I think, it's excessive.

By the way, 116,000 Euro = US$156,600. I guess the person who did write this article got lost between Euro & British Pound & US$, he is from Britain!

[Edited by: Pielededrac at 9/29/2013 10:10:34 PM EST]
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qwerty17
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 10:00:43 PM

Fines based on income? Crap.
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Eugenian
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 9:32:15 PM


At least he wasn't phoning/texting while driving.
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pleinyeux
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 8:46:10 PM

What next loll
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tillandsia
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 8:08:42 PM

It would be great if we had progressive fines here!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 7:02:09 PM

Wow, not sure I would like these progressive fines!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 6:22:49 PM

Progressive fines are more effective
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 5:50:59 PM

I guess that's one way to fine people.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 5:26:56 PM

This appears to be outrageous.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 5:17:43 PM

Interesting concept of pegging the amount of the fine based on one's income. Don't think that would fly here.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 5:15:32 PM

Talk about unfair .
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 5:00:40 PM

Wow
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 4:46:54 PM


Yawn...............Who Cares !
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 4:28:24 PM


Sounds like a very fair system that could be applied in other areas.
Thanks for sharing GreenAstro.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 4:22:56 PM

Wow, bet he's pissed.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 4:21:56 PM

wow
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:43:37 PM

wow
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:32:33 PM

Yes, it is an old article (ancient by Internet standards) but it does bring forth an interesting point. I, too, think we need this kind of system here, not because I'm a "socialist" (I'm sure most know me better than that by now :) ) but because a fine should be a genuine punishment for those being fined (surely I can get my fellow conservatives to agree on *that*). Of course, there should be a certain minimum, you shouldn't use a person's three-year-old financial data to assess such a fine, and perhaps a certain maximum, too, because I can agree that $100,000+ for 25kph/15mph over the limit is excessive (you know, eighth amendment and all). $100.00 and a doubling of insurance rates doesn't quite cut it for this set, though - that's not even a tap on the wrist for them.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:30:07 PM

May have taught him a lesson but I doubt it
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:30:05 PM

If a $200.00 fine gets your attention when you make minimum wage, what will it take to get the attention of someone making $500.00 an hour?
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 2:24:16 PM

ouch!
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:56:27 PM

If that caught on here maybe someone like Justin Bieber would learn to respect the law and rights of others
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reidlej
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:06:21 PM

Pretty darn expensive for 16 mph speeding.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:04:52 PM

very expensive ticket.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:03:55 PM

How about a heavy fine for texting while driving.?
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