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NOTSOGRN

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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 1:26:52 AM

As local companies grapple with high fuel costs, a small – but growing – number of businesses are aggressively pursuing compressed natural gas as an alternative.

Companies, like Waste Management and Try-It Distributing, are converting their fleets to take advantage of fuel that costs anywhere from a third to half as much as gasoline and diesel fuel.

And automakers are starting to offer more choices for consumers who also want to save at the pump.

But CNG still faces huge hurdles. Retrofitting a vehicle to CNG can cost up to $12,000, stretching the payback time and forcing energy-conscious consumers to bear sizable upfront costs. And CNG public fueling stations are rare, with just five in the Buffalo Niagara region, and six more on the way.

So a CNG vehicle isn’t for everyone.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2013 5:49:41 AM

CNG could be useful, esp. if not fracked but produced by other means (such as methane from landfills).
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2013 12:58:36 AM


Big mistake.

Just another industry bait & switch.

Attract customers with empty promises of lower prices.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2013 12:03:33 AM

hope it catches on.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2013 5:58:21 AM

good for the companies, but sorry to hear about the high costs.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2013 2:48:51 AM

We had a local Exxon station that had a CNG dispenser. No demand, they were removed. They recently went through a facelift. They added Diesel fuel to their product offerings.
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 2:23:20 PM

The key to increasing the use of natural gas into the general motoring public is the bifuel vehicle that can run on compressed natural gas (CNG) and gasoline or CNG and diesel at the drivers discretion. This allows the driver to decide when to use either CNG or gasoline/diesel to get from point A to point B based upon the availability of refuelling stations during his commute or trip. If and when larger numbers of bifuel vehicles are on the roads, the CNG refuelling infrastructure will be built to accommodate this market just like gasoline and diesel fuelling stations have been built over the last 100 years to supply gasoline and diesel to those whose vehicles use the fuels.

If you are interested in seeing if any public or private CNG stations are near you, check out the website below and click on the fuel pump icon to see a national map of where there are public CNG fuelling stations currently located.
www.cngnow.com
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52MPG
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:27:43 PM

The last gas station built here has two CNG pumps.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 11:56:25 AM

If we could get the dealers of every brand that is selling CNG vehicles to install a CNG dispenser, the problem of infrastructure would be largely solved. You go driving down the road, every wide spot has a Chevrolet or Ford dealer. And if you're driving at night in Texas, you can see their bowties and blue ovals for miles.


[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 9/30/2013 11:57:05 AM EST]
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gobux10
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 7:11:47 AM

Cost to switch over is way too high
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Amtrgas
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 2:13:41 AM

As soon as enough people switch over, the price will go up. It is just another trap.
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billwho
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:35:30 AM

Bring it on !!
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:16:08 AM

A good way to go.
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boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:14:34 AM

Sounds like the way to go.
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jkpsr
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:13:19 AM

A good part of the expense to convert is in putting in CNG fuel tanks. Propane conversion would be a whole lot cheaper.
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unicornpmb
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:10:55 AM

Could save money over time.
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oldred11
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:10:07 AM

CNG is a very good idea, especially for local fleets.
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LQQKGAS
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:09:46 AM


Make it .99¢ and it will take off like wildfire!!!
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ThunderBird89
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:09:08 AM

when the retrofit and/or initial build cost becomes economically viable, then it will be a good deal.
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heartbroken2010
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:08:23 AM

hmm.
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obimerrill
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:07:45 AM

hopefully this trend will also help gasoline prices to drop
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greshams
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:07:32 AM

hope to see it in my area.
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gasmack
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:06:45 AM

CNG...build the infrastructure and the people will come.
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Marino5
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:06:12 AM

Until the infrastructure is there, it cannot go mainstream.
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HizznHerz
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:04:30 AM

old
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mlmeng
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:03:38 AM

I would consider buying one. There would need to be CNG (or LNG if applicable) in the area.
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nurdco
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:03:08 AM

No national infrastructure still...
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juttuniemi
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:02:44 AM

More infrastructure needed.
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smileynish
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:02:08 AM

There are private stations here in Florida but don't know any thats open to the public.
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2013 12:02:04 AM

Old News
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tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:59:53 PM

K
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LKnight598
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:54:42 PM

ok
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DrLyon
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:51:34 PM

Good...
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lippoe_sokan
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:50:17 PM

CNG is a good way to go. If the trucking industry would go this way, it would have a huge positive impact on US energy issues.
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bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:50:12 PM

Fleets are the best use currently for CNG.
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seahawks
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:44:25 PM

in do time it will happen!!!
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mstearno
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:41:18 PM

someday
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skybiker
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:33:30 PM

Works for trucks...
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cogas1
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:33:08 PM

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bumpygas
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:30:22 PM

Just figure out how to use some of the toxic waste coming out of Washington DC and this country could lower gasoline prices drastically.
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Fitwit
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:28:38 PM

For the pioneering spirit.
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Darwin00
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:26:10 PM

Good natural gas!
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DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:25:30 PM

not cost efficient yet
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geoutpb
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:24:33 PM

As people use more cng the price will go up
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dbadave
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:24:28 PM

ok
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Joseph2005
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:23:05 PM

ok
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:15:47 PM

If more people use CNG, the cost will come down and the infrastructure will be more available.
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superman1AZ
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:15:14 PM

its going to help the environment, so lets get the costs down.
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Sapper08
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:14:51 PM

Better alternative than electric.
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PAPA1FL
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:14:18 PM

that's a lot of junk in the trunk
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SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2013 11:13:44 PM

LOOKS good on paper!!!! A lot has be set in motion before it will be
available for autos....
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