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BurntOrange

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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:52:10 AM

Surrounded by corn fields and animal feedlots, a massive industrial complex owned by a Norwegian energy company aims to make solar power a viable alternative to fossil fuels.

REC Silicon, with 500 workers in this Central Washington town, annually produces enough solar-grade polysilicon to power more than 2 million homes.

But a global trade battle over solar panels threatens to plunge REC and its local workforce into financial crisis.

China last month slapped hefty duties on U.S.-made polysilicon in a move widely seen as retaliation for American tariffs imposed last year on imports of Chinese solar panels.

Now, China’s solar-panel producers face a 57 percent tariff on polysilicon bought from REC, raising the likelihood that they’ll get the raw material elsewhere.


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Amplion
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:35:07 AM

FORGET SOLAR, NUKES ARE BETTER !!!!
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ExplorerWA
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:58:37 PM

What comes around, goes around.
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TripleHs
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 5:37:28 PM

going nowhere
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DOS
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 5:12:32 PM

In the meantime, shouldn't SolarWorld, with its now tariff protected market be picking up some of the slack with increased solar panel production at their plant in nearby Oregon?

[Edited by: DOS at 8/19/2013 5:13:06 PM EST]
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DOS
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 4:57:14 PM

So the United States imposes a 30-35% tariff on Chinese Solar panels, which passes WTO Muster, and China retaliates with a 53-57% tariff on polysilicon? That hardly seems like something that will pass WTO rules muster.

It sounds like the Chinese Ministry of Commerce is out of control and is making moves that don't make much since on any level other than pure retaliation. It seems to me that the WTO rules should prevent such tactics. I have to wonder... why aren't they doing so?

"Meanwhile, the Chinese commerce ministry spokesman Shen Danyang said last week that Beijing continued to investigate whether the EU has been dumping its wine and poly silicon products in China." - BEIJING August 17, 2013 (AP)

So the EU is Dumping polysilicon on China but China retaliates with outrageous tariffs on polysilicon from the US?

But it seems that China and the EU are having other tariff issues of their own. "'The EU continues its fight against unjustified Chinese trade defense measures, which do not comply with WTO rules and often seem to be motivated by retaliation,' said EU Trade spokesman John Clancy in the statement." - BEIJING August 17, 2013 (AP)

Will WTO rules prove to be worth anything in terms of enforcing trade fairness? Or barring that, if we can't cut a deal with China for more resonable tariff rates, can we say TRADE WAR with China? Personally, I'm up for that. I'm sick of only seeing Chinese products on the shelves.
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montpelier28
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 4:28:26 PM

Even though we were very late to the gate I hope we can catch up. Buy American if you can.
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Flashcube
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 4:24:26 PM

I suspect the cheap solar panels produced in China are the culprit to causing a Clarksville, TN plant to stall and idle because the market was so poor.
As bad as we need to convert to solar to save our environment, I can't believe GREED is killing off this great technology.
China has cheated for years on the rates, and will not ever play fair!
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 3:07:41 PM

jimgraham,

Cagney said, "on top of the world Ma! Top of the world!" - while standing on top of gas storage tanks that he just shot bullets into and just before the whole gas storage facility blew up. (Check out the movie "White Heat")

I hope you are not trying to make an analogy, because if you are it is not a positive one.
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 2:40:49 PM

It truly is a global economy now. Tariffs do not always achieve what they are intended to accomplish.
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jimgraham
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:38:31 PM

WE the PEOPLE must wake up - don't enact trade rules that end up with retaliation from the other countries. Develope the mindset that BUY AMERICAN is the way to go. In 15 or 20 years we would be back to work and, as James Cagney said, "on top of the world Ma! Top of the world!"
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dodsworth
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:14:22 PM

Our current "trade agreements" just don't cut it. The are weighted against US manufacturers and workers. Which powerful, wealthy self-interests have purchased these policies!
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highdesertman
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:00:25 PM

If the Chinese hadn't tried to monopolize the solar industry and drive U.S. solar manufacturers out of business by subsidizing prices for panels, this would never have come about
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peakkeller
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:59:39 AM

Ugh
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gbs1
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:00:05 AM

Trade wars have no winners
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fuel2use
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 10:28:30 AM

Informative.
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Fleabite44
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 10:19:34 AM

Global trade, economy, and politics is a sticky and complex issue. When you say lets do it all here, remember this operation in the US is owned by a Norwegian company. Life is not simple.
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BBF_PFS
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 9:26:57 AM

Sounds like it is time to start building solar panels in the USA again.
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pscamp
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 9:12:12 AM

Whatever
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zuess28
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 8:46:28 AM

Who needs China.
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amoshins
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 8:29:29 AM

REC is in a tough spot. I feel for the employees
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AVKZ
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 8:18:02 AM

It's only fair.
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Evilmaddog
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 8:06:46 AM

Chinese throwing their weight around
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WeasleyOC
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 8:04:46 AM

World economy and politics go hand in hand.
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merlinCO
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:58:46 AM

What happens when you play with big government.
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:56:21 AM

tit for tat as always
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markcayer
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:54:57 AM

So?? Stop manufacturing in China ... problem solved.
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LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:53:45 AM

Bad for the business and workers.
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