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xgojim
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 7:04:29 AM

It may be easy to question now at the height of an American energy boom, but the Environmental Protection Agency had good intentions when it announced the Renewable Fuel Standard in 2005. At the time, energy independence seemed like a pipe dream, domestic fuel consumption was hitting record highs each year, and the nation's auto fleet was by no means topping the charts in efficiency. Many experts questioned whether the nation would ever be free of imported oil. Igniting a national biofuels industry could have huge implications if the EPA was successful. What did the country have to lose? Agribusiness giants such as Archer Daniels Midland went all-in on the new corn ethanol industry, using their massive distribution network to supply billions of gallons of fuel each year. Even refiners
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 11:36:22 PM

They are screwing it up.
HawaiianGuy
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 10:42:07 PM

EPA: "Ethanol Promotion Agency"
endymion
Champion Author New York

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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 10:09:12 PM

Farm states have been lobbying for ethanol to support corn prices.
bston
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:14:24 PM

Ethanol is bad for vehicles & epa is even worse for US.
blupupher
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 9:01:38 AM

they are making it give me less miles per gallon and paying more for it.
BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 8:08:15 AM

Dion't know?
GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 2:59:11 AM


The EPA and the current administration in Washington still insist on forcing the use of ethanol/gasoline blends despite EPA research showing that it is not as effective at reaching any of the stated goals as was once believed.

You can see how powerful the corporate agricultural lobbyists are when even the auto industry has spoken against higher ethanol use yet the push for more ethanol continues.
RogerB
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 1:11:52 AM

- Very Interesting . . . .








Amplion
Champion Author Oregon

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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:42:12 AM

BAN ETHANOL

SHUT DOWN EPA
TIGERPAW46
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:39:09 AM

Ethanol is no good for the Environment or lessening the Gasoline used.

Ethanol has a lower BTU output burned than reg. Gasoline so you get less MPG even in post 2007 vehicles designed to endure Ethanol.

It has caused over destruction of Trees cleared for Ethanol fuel Crops causing more co2 accumulation than if we had stayed with reg gasoline without Ethanol.

It has caused higher land prices leading to even higher food prices due to cost of land.

It has contributed to worse Global food shortages due to land being used to make more money on selling crops for Ethanol than growing food for human consumption.

All this is just for starters, because there are even more reasons they should stop Ethanol. Instead Pres Obama signed a bill early this year to increase the % Ethanol in Gasoline.

To stop Ethanol you have to get Obama out of Office.
SteveHawk
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:31:33 AM

GET RID OF ETHANOL FOR GOD SAKE IT DESTROYING SMALL ENGINES WASTE OF MONEY E15 BS
Kawibiker
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:26:29 AM

wish the ethanol would go away, or lower it's content.. it really isn't doing much.. makes gas get fewer miles per gallon.. not sure the trade off is worth it.. besides the cars having been re-designed to run the ethanol mix...
KrsnaDragon
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:26:21 AM

I believe anhydrous ethanol is far too susceptible to phase separation to be used practically as a transportation fuel.
oldred11
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:26:15 AM

Like (I think) I said yesterday, another "foolish" article.
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:23:32 AM

No more ethanol.
ToddsPhone
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:22:39 AM

Okay
jkpsr
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:18:38 AM

Get rid of the ethanol!
crreed1
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:18:08 AM

no ethanol
heartbroken2010
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:17:56 AM

i believe their employees drive company cars too.
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:16:53 AM

no ethanol
Tigercat88
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:15:23 AM

SHUT DOWN THE EPA NOW!!!!!!!
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:15:08 AM

No more ethanol.
Badjef
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:14:46 AM

We could have been energy independent years ago if the Krazies would have SHUT UP!
ican2step
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:14:20 AM

Hey big brother, stay out of our gas tanks!
chuckl95453
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:14:08 AM

go away EPA
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:13:10 AM

Green is better.
Captlars
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:12:22 AM

Okay
rahcat
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:12:04 AM

Abolish and defund the EPA.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:11:57 AM

ethanol and the e p a both suck
jmg144
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:10:27 AM

ADM made lots of money
ManOfLeisureII
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:09:36 AM

Slime balls.....
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:08:37 AM

Raising the cost?
N5EXY
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:07:48 AM

I just don't think much of the EPA.
rosyLI
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:07:15 AM

The EPA is sabotaging the American public.
Quick68
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:07:06 AM

I do not believe the EPA or any branch of the government.
Glock26
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:05:34 AM

Whatever!
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:05:05 AM

The EPA can waive the current mandates, but instead they are choosing to ruin our cars, ruin our economy, and ruin the environment.

No, Congress cannot get rid of the mandate because DemocRATs control the Senate and the White House. DemocRATs established the current mandates in 2007. Obama voted in favor of the mandates established in 2005 and in 2007. His 2008 campaign for president stated he plans to double the mandates established in 2007. So we have to change party control in the Senate and White House to eliminate the mandates.
regout
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:04:35 AM

Keep corn for people.
bolobill
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:04:32 AM

ok
LKnight598
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:04:27 AM

They are making it less efficient and more expensive!
Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:03:39 AM

The EPA is destroying our engines and depleting the nutrients from our soils needed for food.
HedTurnr
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:59:42 PM

What they are doing is ruining it, making it where it will damage a car with ethanol add ins, and keeping the prices high. That is what the EPA is doing with our gas! It is time for Congress to throw the EPA out and represent the people who elected them and not the big businesses who are paying them bribes.
Night Owl
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:59:12 PM

No more ethanol.
N4PIP
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:58:00 PM

Pointing the finger at the EPA? Ridiculous. Congress could get rid of the mandate any time they want. Your representative in the Midwest is propping up the corporate farms.
kennyman
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:57:42 PM

Sure I'm going to invest all my money in those oil companies. ( NOT )
clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:57:15 PM

Eradicate the EPA. They are strangling us with regulations.

Out of control and have been for a long time.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:55:20 PM

I agree with hosspuller also. The greenies can use it if they want.
WIWalt
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:53:01 PM

I agree with hosspuller! The greenies can use it if they want

I agree with this ..."The RFS may have been a reasonable thing to try in 2005 but it has proven to be worthless so should be repealed. There is no need to ban ethanol; just make it optional and let each vehicle owner decide what fuel to put in his tank.""

And cut the tax exemptions for ethanol..
jackson661
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:52:08 PM

OMG we need a better product only...
spike55sk
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:50:33 PM

Shovel needed.
RedskinGas
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:50:26 PM

NO FOOD FOR FUEL!!!!!
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