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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 2:54:20 AM

Two families in Johnson County are blaming fracking and earthquakes for damage to their homes. They have filed a lawsuit naming the controversial natural gas drilling process as the cause for cracking walls and shifting floors in their homes.

Resident Ed Specht has lived in his house for more than 20 years. And now, he says, it’s falling apart.

“It’s just literally sinking in the ground – cracking, breaking apart,” said Specht.

It wasn’t until recent earthquakes started shaking up his neighborhood in Alvarado that Specht’s home had problems. “Cracks in the walls, the doors won’t shut, the windows won’t raise…” Specht and his wife say fracking is to blame for the earthquakes, which are destroying their home.

In short, fracking is a process that blasts millions of gallons of water, sand
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 11:35:37 PM

That's true PDQBlues, and it works both ways too. When the plaintiffs agree to settle because they know they really have no case those are sealed as well. Same for insurance fraud, medical malpractice and on and on.

The real key is that there have been numerous suits, very few if any proven and most frivolous as this one likely will be found. We need serious tort reform to eliminate tying up the justice system with these greed cases and clear the dockets for the real crimes and legitimate cases. Unfortunately, that's the last thing lawyers want!
Ticobird
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 9:50:36 PM

They are going to have a hard time proving their earthquakes were caused by fracking much less proving that the earthquakes were powerful enough to be responsible for causing the damage to their homes. I smell a rat trying to do a media end run here.
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 4:59:45 PM


There have been many lawsuits against fracking corporations, but all the settlements have been sealed and thus the public is deprived of the truth of the health risks from fracking. Someday, the truth will be known and all the chemicals used in fracking for which the public is currently denied.
brian1145
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:47:50 PM

Probably just the beginning.
livedream
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:04:13 PM

Apparently, this is not unique to just the state of Texas --

From passin gas2011 -- "same thing happened in north east Ohio."
skippypa
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:36:17 PM

They're going to have a hard time proving it.
KCRice
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:36:11 PM

There will be competing "experts" in this case, should be interesting.
wayne1066
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:09:56 PM

Without being able to show a geologic change in the surface and directly relate it to the fracking process, this case is going nowhere fast.
cssco
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:03:53 PM

Two things are evident from this article, 1) the families need a lawyer who knows one day from the next without referring to a calendar and 2) refrain from placing anything, especially fingers, in a newly developed crack whether the finger fits or not.
Wildman14
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:03:47 PM

Not sure what the real truth here is but I'm pretty sure it isn't what each side claims it to be.
tomok
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:03:00 PM

Fracking Blamed In Lawsuit Filed By Families In Johnson County. It will be very hard to prove if it is from fracking or not. How long has it been since the houses were built, the history of the houses and how much they have shifted or settled, when the houses started moving and cracking, when the fracking started, any earthquakes felt or recorded, there are many many things to consider or a combination of many items together.
More fracking, more chance to pollute the surface and underground waters. Properly treat the fracking water so it can be released safely on the surface. Recycle water into the underground rocks fracturing Only if there are NO contaminates or pollutants injected into the underground water and rock system at the same time.
Anyone for flaming water from the kitchen faucet?
We need clean drinkable water and uncontaminated lakes and streams!
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
032946
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 12:00:03 PM

Fracking should be outlawed!
wilsmoke
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:56:56 AM

I talked to Obama an he said blame it on Bush...LOL
dieselme2011
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:56:00 AM

Sounds like someone is trying to make a quick buck to me.
LongPlay
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:55:45 AM

This type of suit makes me want to outlaw lawyers!!
passin_gas2011
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:50:58 AM

same thing happened in north east ohio.
RAKARWOWSKI
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:49:57 AM

I bet fracking causes sink holes!
Chas58
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:49:34 AM

Clasic "shotgun" lawsuit. Sue everybody in sight, throw poop on the wall and something has to stick.
mikesr100
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:49:16 AM

They're the only ones in the US? They're FRACKING CRAZY!
sciotosix
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:49:10 AM

Good luck to them. It will be hard to prove and likely more difficult to collect, if they win.
3mta3
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:47:20 AM

"Fracking"...
the new scapegoat!
Nikontraveler
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:46:49 AM

It couldn't be an aquifer underground that is causing it could it? Who is going to pay for a geologist to drill cores samples to see what is really under the house? If Specht wants to pay for core samples to prove it. I'll buy it. Most likely Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking is a liberal slang for Hydraulic Fracturing) is not at fault.



[Edited by: Nikontraveler at 8/19/2013 11:51:08 AM EST]
40mpgsaturn
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:46:36 AM

?????
SUSANCK
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:45:53 AM

Another reason why fracking sucks!
MalibuGordie
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:44:33 AM

Which came first? Fracking or earthquakes? Seems to me that this is a stupid argument. Like moving next to the airport and complaining about the noise. Shakespeare was right; first we kill all the lawyers!
krobp46
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:43:52 AM

yada yada yada
Cableman66
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:43:22 AM

OK wait till the next earthquake in California and see who sues what for that one. Should be fun to watch.
ciimike
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:43:08 AM

Fracking is completely safe!! Just ask the oil companies and the politicians that get oil companies support!
jalan25
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:42:25 AM

The sad thing will be that even after the lawsuit is resolved, the question about what caused the problem won't be. Our legal system is not designed for the truth of an issue.
dlzastera
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:40:09 AM

Oh no.
CPayZombie
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:40:00 AM

If the houses were built on a fault line, whose fault is that?
Edtx2009
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:39:32 AM

More silly lawsuits where someone is trying to get free money.
boldrph
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:39:27 AM

leave no planet unfracked
JENNYHK
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:39:12 AM

Fracking bad news.
Car54BC08
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:37:13 AM

Sounds like the house was poorly built in the first place.
nanu4u21
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:36:59 AM

Crack the whip on Fracking
humblepie
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:36:48 AM

can you say "eco extorion" children ?
Jeff1944
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:36:38 AM

I read the article but I don't know where Johnson County is except in Wyoming and there is no fracking there. Please clarify. Thanks.
Kaiyne
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:33:47 AM

This is fracking great!
CptnCanada
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:29:37 AM

Gee I have seen that here and there is NO FRACKING in this area
Black Wagon
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:29:30 AM

And the lawyers stand to clean up.
Janetique
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:28:40 AM

There could definitely be a cause and effect with facking and these minor earthquakes, but it will be hard to prove.
cwebfly
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:28:18 AM

Doesn't surprise me due to the method they use. I am sure they will pay out and chalk it up to the cost of doing business. Cheaper to pay out then stop fracking.
TxMtb
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:27:08 AM

If it's proven true then they really need to look at process all over.
HDUltra03
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:25:06 AM

Sounds like the same hydro-method they used to wash down hillsides for gold, but this is underground. And we all know how that turned out....
juttuniemi
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:24:36 AM

Does Texas even ALLOW lawsuits against oil & gas companies???
mfgendron
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:22:51 AM

fracking is no good.
nehemiah
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:22:13 AM

we need to find other alternatives
heysailor
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:21:34 AM

Lies, lies, lies. Only libruls believe fracking is dangerous. Why I gargle with fracking water every morning - no problems except for that growth in the back of my throat.
gas_sipperNY
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:21:11 AM

fracking needs to be banned... PERIOD!
Suzzoom
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 11:20:42 AM

Perhaps, davisadm, but it's not coincidental that the problems started showing up only after fracking began.
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