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EnviroChemist
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:07:32 AM

Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW)’s rechargeable i8 sports car is entering a soon-to-be-crowded field of supercars with a hint of green. While they tap into Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA)’s popularity, they’re for different buyers.

BMW will show a production version of the plug-in hybrid i8 coupe at the Frankfurt auto show next month that’s to go on sale in the U.S. in early 2014. Pricing, also to be announced next month, will be less than $150,000, Willisch said. Model S starts at about $70,000.
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NedW
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:26:54 AM

Thank you for submitting this article, EnviroChemist.
remay
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:12:46 AM

We'll see...
TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 10:24:39 PM

Let's see - you can two proven Teslas or one expensive and unknown hunk of junk...ah, choices, choices!
DanMtz
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 6:40:17 PM

$150K? Ouch.
ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 4:10:49 PM

See no buyers either.
jrs4125
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 8:01:49 AM

I'll take one.
investmentdr
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 10:19:26 PM

Tesla will be squashed by the big boys
listerone
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 10:05:28 PM

I'll take a Bimmer any day.
RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:31:06 PM

Hmmm...Pricing, also to be announced next month, will be less than $150,000, Willisch said. Model S starts at about $70,000.

The system delivers a combined 362 horsepower to speed the car from 0 to 62 miles (100 kilometers) per hour in just 4.5 seconds, while delivering an average of 94 miles per gallon, BMW said.

The model S does 0-60 in 4.2 seconds.

The i8 differs from Model S in that it is fundamentally a performance-oriented car, said Hendrik Wenders, product manager for the model.
So I can pay two and a half times the cost for the slower car and still have to buy premium gas?
markcayer
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:49:13 PM

Nice car but too pricey for most people.
schatzila
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 12:54:36 PM

BMW, ugh.
Nikontraveler
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 10:30:03 AM

More cars to shift the carbon footprint from the engine to the power generating plant putting an even greater load on our aging power grid. Way to go.
bwp9970
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 10:07:06 AM

Ok
naspa
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 9:12:27 AM

They don't see it ..... yet. Give Tesla two more years.
doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 8:40:07 AM

No thanks to the BMW offering as well as the Tesla offering.
quasar502
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 8:38:01 AM

Expensive toys for the elite.
Evilmaddog
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 8:21:07 AM

toys for goofy actors and speculators
OTISFL
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:48:47 AM

Who can afford it?!
jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:46:59 AM

Narrow range of buyers at this price.
CarefulDriver
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:26:56 AM

With the car priced at $150,000 will many people be able to afford this car.
bills299
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:20:37 AM

Wow that's pricey!
yardslave
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:05:50 AM

Too much new, wouldn't want a used one....
FocusST2
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:03:03 AM

Here comes the electric toys that most can't afford.
nicven
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:44:39 AM

The future.
Rockyguitar
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:25:57 AM

Plug-in = not 4 me
TravelinMan52
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:19:42 AM

We'll see where this goes, for those that can afford one. It's too rich for my blood...
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:18:08 AM

Ok but I can't afford it
DOS
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:11:19 AM

The i8 is basically a hybrid using "electric power for the front wheels and a three-cylinder gasoline engine for the rear tires."

I'm glad to hear that it isn't so much a competitor for Tesla's Model S but it sounds like it could be a bit of a competitor for Tesla's roadster.

But it is also interesting to read that (unlike some gasbuddy posters) the BMW CEO considers Hybrids and electric cars to be the car of the future.

“This is the supercar of the future: It has the driving performance of an M3, but gets more than 80 miles per gallon,” Ludwig Willisch, BMW’s North American chief executive officer." ...

"The success of Palo Alto, California-based Tesla’s Model S “absolutely” convinces Munich-based BMW there’s a market for premium rechargeable vehicles, Willisch said."- From the article

JerryJoeUC
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:06:16 AM

Good luck with those cars if you purchase them.
afghaned
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 4:59:08 AM

Hybrids are better than EVs here in the frozen north.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 4:58:45 AM

tesla is a house of cards, nice cars but.........
ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 4:39:46 AM

Waste.
eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:55:36 AM

Guess I should have read the article.

The system delivers a combined 362 horsepower to speed the car from 0 to 62 miles (100 kilometers) per hour in just 4.5 seconds, while delivering an average of 94 miles per gallon, BMW said.

It uses gas and electricity.
eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:52:53 AM

How far can they go on a charge and how many HP do they put out? What kind of luxury accessories are included in the vehicle?
leeac
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:45:47 AM

EVs are getting better and more popular everyday.
StArrow68
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:19:09 AM

Performance car if compared to a decade old Corvette. At three time the price it seems the market is folks that like over priced badges.
ClassicWheeler
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:13:57 AM

What an expense toy. Who can afford this that will make a difference in our economy or pollution?
bisonjim
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:01:38 AM

Still too expensive
djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:56:11 AM

These companies making the high priced Electric Vehicles will have to get a good market share to break even. At this time there are not enough buyers for EV's to fill the slot. Whenever a new EV hits the bricks some of the public has to be the first and buys them up. It happened with the volt and they had to cut their price by 5 grand this year to try and get a dead sales to resurrect.
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:37:15 AM

Hopefully in time they will.
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:26:47 AM

The electrics are coming deal with it.
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:22:25 AM

Perhaps the real story is "Tesla Sees No rival in BMW as BMW's Plug-in i8 is Readied.
orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:48:45 AM

But...but...but...the Tesla is all electric. The i8 is in effect a Volt at 4 times the price!!
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:47:10 AM

BMW HAS NO RIVALS .......
BMW IS THE BEST CAR ON THE ROAD .
orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:46:26 AM

Oh, I have to laugh a bit, just a bit, at this. Tesla temporarily stopped selling the roadster in North American because the subcontract with Lotus, which was number limited as far as body shells, ended. People outside North America can still get a roadster, maybe. BUT, a Tesla roadster will be back on the market in another year or two. Model S is selling well, and the Model X will be out soon, and two other "Teslas" are currently selling and providing Beta testing for other Tesla models like the CUV and smaller cheaper car coming along in a year or so.

Don't believe in Tesla? Well, what is fundamentally different about Tesla from Fisker or any other company is that Tesla owns all its own technology--and can licence it for other income in the meantime.
1) Toyota RAV-4 EV is actually a Tesla power train underneath. (Toyota purchased a small stake in Tesla to get access)
2) Smart EV is actually a Tesla power train underneath. (M-B purchased a small stake in Tesla to get access)

Well, now that Tesla has upped their game by on-the-fly changing the 80kW Supercharger stations to 120kW which means that a 20 minute stop gives you not a half charge, but a two-thirds charge and for FREE forever, having a worthy competitor like BMW will make this a rip snorting dash.
citrat
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:39:17 AM

From lab to the roads; market is getting mature.
Snowball2013
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:37:29 AM

A lot of money
EnviroChemist
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:30:15 AM

Both vehicles are a bit over priced for me.
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:12:23 AM

Ok
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