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Nicoalbum

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 10:54:25 AM

In SF, more than 1,300mi from the proposed route of the KXL, an agency charged with regulating air pollution from industrial plants and home heaters says the project is a threat

The Bay Area Air Quality Management District has joined scores of municipalities and interest groups from CA to ME that have adopted resolutions on KXL or crude from AB

In MT, Commissioner Dunbar of Phillips County, the U.S. entry point for KXL, said he could only wonder why distant towns oppose the project

The agency said the project will worsen global warming for everyone

To meet air quality goals and GHG standards, we have to stop looking at 20th century technologies

Oil “carried by the kXL would counteract GHG reduction achievements made by local climate protection efforts in the Bay Area and throughout CA
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 9:40:24 PM

:::::There are radical elements within Mexico which don't recognize that Treaty::::


Then they need to start another war with the US so they can get their butts walloped and have to give up some more of their land. this time give up all the states along the US border. That would be a good start for cessation/ treaty/war reparations to the US.
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:31:07 PM

And as for far off communities making a statement, gee.... if that doesn't work for towns and cities in Maine and California....... then it shouldn't work in all the anti-everything communities/states that can try to tie Obama to anything they don't like.....

Just a statement doesn't have any weight. If a million statements from communities are made.... at least they should be listened to.....
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:27:04 PM

As for Keystone XL.... once completed, prepare for price hikes... again...
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:26:20 PM

Perhaps the refineries in the eastern provinces of Canada could stop importing oil.... if it was shipped from the west....
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:25:20 PM

I wonder if Sammy knows that treaty cut many families apart..... because of an arbitrary line.....
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:23:53 PM

I wonder why so many Americans (and posters here) hate the idea of Canadians refining their own oil?????
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2013 1:22:26 PM

Gee Sammy.... the Indians probably felt the same way hundreds of years ago.... help a few idiots survive.... then watching their lands and lives overrun by the hordes that followed...
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Night Owl
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 11:41:48 PM

Refine Canadian oil in Canada.
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 9:32:51 PM


Apparently, when given the choice people prefer to have clean water and air rather than give corporations to make huge profits that will benefit no one.
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 7:54:10 PM

To: 2b0b Re: Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:24:37 AM (Printed below)

"My dad was right. He said we should renegotiate the Treaty of Guadalupe - Hidalgo, and give California back to Mexico.
Maybe we should all protest the oil, gas, and refined products coming into California by pipeline, to reduce GHG in the other 47 states."

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I can fully understand your dad's sentiments, however, a better idea would be to deport all illegals (30 Million) and build a fence along our borders. Not unlike the "greenies" any settlement would only become the point from which they would launch a new attack. You just cannot satisfy them

There are radical elements within Mexico which don't recognize that Treaty and believe that California, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and parts of Colorado and Wyoming are still sovereign Mexican territory.

[Edited by: SammyAdams at 8/18/2013 7:55:22 PM EST]
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Nikontraveler
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 11:04:23 AM

The people here in California have elected the dumbest hammers in the box to office. The idea of living in an environment where there are only daises, pot, incense and singing Kumbya with Obama are the priorities in life. In addition, the dolts on Sacramento and Frisco believe that what they want, the world wants and have to do what the politburo dictates.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 10:26:10 AM

With over 2/3 of Americans for the KXL, these twits are insignificant.
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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 9:29:51 AM

This article contained a lot of information that is helpful in choosing where to buy gas at today. Thanks Nicoalbum for posting about Keystone.
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VMIJim
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 9:13:05 AM

Just part of the Obama smoke screen as he has no intention of approving the Pipeline without pressure. The bottom line is that Obama has done nothing to control fuel speculation/prices, reduce our dependence on foreign fuels, or improve our economy. The sole agenda of Obama is to cater to his tree hugging, stimulus sucking, union dominated, ultra liberal major contributors. As a result, we continue to be screwed at the pump, with our utilities, & with our taxes. Nothing will change as long as Obama is in office & controls the Senate. 2014 Elections are coming - stop this madness!!
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labbie
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 6:14:40 AM

Can't we just build a big wall around CA and let them suck in their own hot air?
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 3:49:28 AM

Maybe they think they won't be getting any of the new jobs the pipeline will bring.
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2b0b
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:24:37 AM

My dad was right. He said we should renegotiate the Treaty of Guadalupe - Hidalgo, and give California back to Mexico.
Maybe we should all protest the oil, gas, and refined products coming into California by pipeline, to reduce GHG in the other 47 states.
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Nicoalbum
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:24:12 AM

The KXL oppostion in the US seems to be taking the new highs
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EnviroChemist
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 1:27:16 AM

If the good people of San Francisco are compelled to protest air pollution, let them protest China’s poor air quality.
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 12:52:27 AM


     ok
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 12:17:15 AM

Maybe those towns and groups want to go back to the horse and buggy.
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KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 12:16:33 AM

Another sample of big goverment interfernce --
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RitaVespa
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 9:56:42 PM

Surprised they haven't chimed in sooner
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nicven
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 8:53:56 PM

Keep the environment clean.
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whitebear1883
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 7:59:58 PM

Hmmmm.
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Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 7:14:54 PM

If they want to bitch about air quality, send them all to China with respirators!
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 6:19:44 PM

hmm
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doggod
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 6:03:30 PM

Why anyone would feel compelled to pay attention to what people or groups in California or Maine had to say about something going on in the Midwest is beyond me.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 5:31:04 PM

Evowner, there is no subsidizing of the KXL. It's a private venture. Do you even know what that is?
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mike56MI
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 5:18:07 PM

Bull
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Rayfuel
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 5:10:59 PM

The opposition is ridiculous on so many levels.
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streetdesign
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 4:51:20 PM

Need to enforce the standards and not let some companies slide. Indiana allows BP to slide with greater release of pollutants into the lake which is wrong.
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 4:22:27 PM

I'm glad taxrefugee admits being in the dark..... although very few places in Arizona freeze (at least in the summer)... grin..
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 4:21:13 PM

So only location matters?

Then why don't a lot of the posters take that stance when they complain about California's environmental standards..... after all they had to clean up many decades of trashing areas in the state.... and fouling the air to the point of killing people...
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Taxrefugee
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 3:55:15 PM

They will be the first to complain when they have to walk and freeze in the dark
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tnfran
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 3:10:40 PM

Nitwits. Are they going to stage a protest about foreign countries and the lack of quality of their air that eventually reaches our shores??
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evowner
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 3:01:02 PM

Why subsidize the Big Oil monopoly and let them control our energy supply?
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HorizonChaser
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 2:48:22 PM

I am against it.
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Robert44
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 2:36:56 PM

STOP ALL IMPORTS OF OIL TO CA!!!! Then when gasoline goes pass 6 or 7 $ a gallon then they will really start to cry like babies!!!

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mitt4prez
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 2:27:06 PM

The first instinct of govt is to grow, to get more power. So the buttinsky reflex is strong, as this article shows.
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jimgraham
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 2:26:59 PM

Quit shipping US and Canadian crudes to California and see what they say. Would $6+ for gas wake them up, or would they decide that the rest of the country should pay that much, or more, just because they are loonies?
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bwatchingu
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 2:17:02 PM

Heard yesterday on the news that the temp has not changed in at least 15 years.Gobal warming is not believable.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 2:14:27 PM

Ignorance is found everywhere.
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 1:52:34 PM

everybodies fools they are
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 1:10:46 PM

These left-wing extremists have no idea how much fossil fuels grow our economy, and always have. We are the great nation we are today, in part, because of relatively cheap energy from oil and gas.

Wake up, dummies!
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 12:48:55 PM

We just need to get it built ASAP!
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 12:48:05 PM

They'll move it one way or another.
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 12:40:18 PM

blue state media
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WestDriver
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2013 12:39:05 PM

they don't want pipelines? That is, they don't want gasoline and oil products shipped to them. Then, pay the higher prices or do without.
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Calif are a bunch of sheep. They don't even know what global warming is. You can't even fart without
Getting sited for it.
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