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mastermariner

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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 12:00:20 AM

President Barack Obama called into question the number of jobs that would be created from the controversial Keystone XL pipeline in an interview with the New York Times released on Saturday.

"Republicans have said that this would be a big jobs generator," Obama said, according to the newspaper.

"There is no evidence that that's true. The most realistic estimates are this might create maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline, which might take a year or two, and then after that we're talking about somewhere between 50 and 100 jobs in an economy of 150 million working people."

TransCanada Corp's proposed pipeline is designed to carry 830,000 barrels of crude oil per day from the Canadian oil sands and the Bakken shale in North Dakota and Montana south to refineries on the U
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tomok
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 1:23:09 AM

Obama disputes job projections for Keystone XL pipeline. The pipeline jobs will increase as the pipeline is being constructed. There will be a maximum of jobs in the middle and will start going down as the pipeline is completed. Only pipeline maintenance and surveillance after that, Not a big job generator.
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 5:43:50 AM

bridgerunner: what good does it do when those people only have 3 months worth of a job? It's helping no one in the long run.
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slicerette
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 7:57:54 AM

In the real world -
1200 skilled union workers are on the job right now laying the new Enbridge replacement pipeline in Michigan.
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jim27106
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:52:29 AM

Transcanada played the jobs card. It is a distraction from the real issue: the environment. The problem is that the folks transporting oil (pipe and train) are not doing nearly enough to protect lives and the environment.

I wonder if the train operators are having so many accidents so
1) it isn't news anymore or
2) they really will build a pipeline - it is a conspiracy.

I wonder if the pipeline operators are having so many accidents so
1) it isn't news anymore or
2) they really will just use train - it is a conspiracy.

And don't think you will get lower prices at the pump. They will export it. Here is a crazy idea: if you have had a spill in the last year you aren't allowed to export the products from that oil.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:42:55 AM

mfeldstein - "It's not about the jobs."

True, the jobs issue is a diversion.

"It's whether, from an energy needs assessment, it's the right thing to do."

And, clearly, there are better things that should be done.
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jorod55
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:07:02 AM

This is so old.
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mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:06:56 AM

It's not about the jobs. It's whether, from an energy needs assessment, it's the right thing to do.
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bridgerunner
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:04:17 AM

More jobs than there are now, even if it is only one!
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vibdata
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:02:48 AM

Temp jobs. Only for heavy industry work. Welders, pipe layers. Then, when done. BYE!
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:01:42 AM

Transcanada even admitted that they inflated the number of jobs by reporting Person-Year jobs not actual jobs.
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:01:38 AM

Old News
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AmynHH
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:01:07 AM

I agree with MAC48
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mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:00:07 AM

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MAC48
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:55:14 PM

TransCanada simply needs to build the Northern part of the Keystone XL pipeline as two parts with part A going from North Dakota's Bakken oil producing areas to the Cushing Hub in Oklahoma and part B going from 5 miles North of the US/Canada border up into Alberta as planned. Keep part A and Part B pipeline sections separate by 20 miles and just run crude oil tank cars on a rail line between the end of part B and the start of part A. Then Obama will not have to make a discission on whether or not to let TransCanada build a pipeline line that crosses the US/Canadian border.
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69Bonne
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:52:55 PM

Don't complain about the numbers, just get the jobs going.
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blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:51:29 PM

Who cares about the number. It creates jobs. Wake up Obummer
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Chris46
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:50:01 PM

I thought Obama was supposed to be for the people
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wshokie12
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:44:13 PM

Okay.
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DustyHorse
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:42:27 PM

If he said the sun was shining I would have to go out and check.
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WIWalt
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:42:18 PM

he claims 4 million jobs created
well where are they? waiting in the pipeline job line
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Nancy&Len
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:40:16 PM

What a waste he is.
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gilfarm
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:38:00 PM

What does he know?
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LSU_TIGERS_dmb
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:37:48 PM

Of course he does since it will create jobs and he hates putting America's to work. Wants everyone on welfare
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:37:21 PM


Jobs or no jobs, the XL pipeline is bad idea, bringing low-grade, caustic bitumen across the country under the guise of calling it oil. This makes no sense whatever, should never have been considered as an option.
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mstearno
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:37:02 PM

he claims 4 million jobs created
well where are they?
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rf6480
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:36:29 PM

I call into question all of his projections
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Ayeghoti
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:35:38 PM

how many jobs will be generated if the pipeline is never built?
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dieselfiendSC
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:34:50 PM

Who believes Obama anymore.
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tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:34:22 PM

Very true wz :(
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59glide
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:34:21 PM

Just build it already
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mwg6275
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:34:08 PM

More Obamascamming.
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SandeeC
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:32:31 PM

If I was out of work or fighting to hold my family together on a meagre wage or trying to hold onto my home, any work for a year or two would be a God-send to me! So I say quit stalling and start the process!
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BIGREDNM
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:32:29 PM

Obama's stupid.
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pgerassi
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:29:37 PM

SOP
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bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:25:06 PM

Some short term prostitution jobs possibly.
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DocWyeth
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:21:09 PM

that is 100 long term jobs and short term jobs of 2000. What a jerk. That means men can work rather than collect.
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s6sputnik
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:20:40 PM

Sure!!
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StephenOM
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:19:01 PM

He will dispute anything that doesn't fit with his agenda, facts be d****d.
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:14:59 PM

ok
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wz
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:13:37 PM

Obama never did let inconvenient facts (or laws, or the constitution) get in his way. If they don't build it, the number of jobs will be ZERO!
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pliskin
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:13:22 PM

Sorry for this ahead of time but Pres. Obama disputes almost everything that is truth based, just because he said so!
He has the guts to say everything from the Justice Dept. gun running fiasco, the Benghazi Consulate killings, the IRS scandal and the NSA gathering of American citizens phone numbers and other personal information as lies and false information. The only lie perpetrated is the fact that the President says they are!
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:08:54 PM

0bama, 0bama, 0bama, what a joke.
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BoerneWatch
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:08:15 PM

Of course he does.

That is because he still does not know how to create even a part time food service job.

He is great at killing any and all jobs except for IRS, EPA and government union jobs.

That is the truth.

Somehow it is not setting us free.
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WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:06:46 PM

Com'mon Mr. Prez. Git ér Dun!
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clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:01:46 PM

BHO's mouth is moving so we know he is lying.

Truth has no place other than a prop in this corrupt administration.

Fire BHO & Co. -- missed the chance we had last November.

Build the pipeline.

Produce and transport product.
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skybiker
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 10:59:35 PM

More Smoke and Mirrors!!....
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PetroScopper
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 10:58:28 PM

I never believed that the pipeline would even generate that many jobs, so no big news to me! It doesn't matter anyway... the pipeline will do nothing to help the American consumer, so do not count on any cheaper prices for us at the pumps.
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trikie316
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 10:58:15 PM

Ok
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kona763
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 10:57:52 PM

Obama said he would be a big jobs generator. There is no evidence that that's true.
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VikingWoman
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 10:57:11 PM

I laughed at the photo on the news of a big pipeline propped up on a stack of pallets.
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